Is the word of god the holy spirit?

[Worshipping Jesus]

Hi all!

Ed J says that the word of God is the Holy Spirit!

The following is scriptures that he uses to support his opinion…

Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 03 2010,13:55)

Hi WJ, Why do you ignore what the Bible says? Here is what Luke said… Luke 8:11: Now the parable is this: ;The Seed is The Word of God. Luke 8:15 But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart,                having heard The Word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience. Rom.9:8 …children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: (“Jesus“=74 AND “Fruit“=74)                 but the CHILDREN OF THE PROMISE are counted for The Seed.              “The Seed” is “The Word”! (Luke 8:11)       John 14:24 He that loveth me (Jesus) not keepeth not my (Jesus) sayings: and                  The Word which ye hear is not mine, but The Father's which sent me. Acts 19:20 So mightily grew The Word of God and prevailed. Acts 12:24 The Word of God grew and multiplied.               THE WORD IS THE HOLY SPIRIT     WILL YOU IGNORE THESE VERSES AS WELL; WJ?           Just like you ignored my last two Posts? Ed J

How many agree?

Blessings WJ

[Elizabeth]

WJ

I for one do not.
The word of God is Jesus, why is he called the “WORD” of God? because what he said was what the Father had told him to say, they were the Fathers words.
Ed even quoted the scripture, they were the Fathers words, John 14:24, that makes Jesus the spokes man for God. The word, the gospel, is the seed, and we are the ground, good ground if we listen to the gospel.
Acts 12:24, is Ed suggesting that the Holy spirit is still growing?
I think he has been in the numbers to long.

Georg

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (Elizabeth @ Mar. 03 2010,15:09)

WJ I for one do not. The word of God is Jesus, why is he called the “WORD” of God? because what he said was what the Father had told him to say, they were the Fathers words. Ed even quoted the scripture, they were the Fathers words, John 14:24, that makes Jesus the spokes man for God. The word, the gospel, is the seed, and we are the ground, good ground if we listen to the gospel. Acts 12:24, is Ed suggesting that the Holy spirit is still growing? I think he has been in the numbers to long. Georg

George

Thanks!

WJ

[terraricca]

WJ

i do ,the word of God is the living word,the knowledge will change you,and by doing so you obey God and Christ command,

after you have changed your ways and chose the way of God,the truth will will be in your heart
that is what God wants us to do.

by doing that we PUT yourself in same spirit than Jesus,apostles.true Christians,

GOD IS WATCHING EVERYONE OF US.

[Elizabeth]

terraricca

The gospel, the word of God, is what gets your attention first, then as you search the scriptures and show God you are interested in his truth, God will give you his Holy Spirit to grow.

Luk 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

We have to ask, if we want to know.

Georg

[terraricca]

georg

God is spirit, his word is his to men,this make it holy,the scriptures are all the writings that God as preserve for us,despite the evil one,Christ says it is the living word,

I believe and have experienced that by putting first the kingdom in your live ,God bring your understanding in scripture so that your eyes in the spirit see more,because he unlock that understanding,this is how he gives you courage and show you his love,on a personal base.

do not misunderstand the scriptures are from the spirit of God but are not God,
so wen in the scriptures it talks about the holy spirit it talks about the word of God.

Peter said that scriptures have been written by men influenced by the holy spirit,so why should it bee that the word be less than the holy spirit.

unless we believe the word of God or we do not ,by doing so we accept or reject the holy spirit.

there many scriptures in the bible to understand that.

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 04 2010,10:34)

georg God is spirit, his word is his to men,this make it holy,the scriptures are all the writings that God as preserve for us,despite the evil one,Christ says it is the living word, I believe and have experienced that by putting first the kingdom in your live ,God bring your understanding in scripture so that your eyes in the spirit see more,because he unlock that understanding,this is how he gives you courage and show you his love,on a personal base. do not misunderstand the scriptures are  from the spirit of God but are not God, so wen in the scriptures it talks about the holy spirit it talks about the word of God. Peter said that scriptures have been written by men influenced by the holy spirit,so why should it bee that the word be less than the holy spirit. unless we believe the word of God or we do not ,by doing so we accept or reject the holy spirit. there many scriptures in the bible to understand that.

T

The Word of God comes from the Holy Spirit of God.

It is living because the Holy Spirit gives it life.

The letter of the word kills. But the Holy Spirit gives it life.

The word of God is spoken by the Holy Spirit and is not the Holy Spirit.

The word of God which is the “seed” grows, but the Holy Spirit of God does not grow!

The Holy Spirit is not the word of God but rather speaks the word of God and gives it life!

Blessings WJ

[terraricca]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 05 2010,03:46)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 04 2010,10:34) georg God is spirit, his word is his to men,this make it holy,the scriptures are all the writings that God as preserve for us,despite the evil one,Christ says it is the living word, I believe and have experienced that by putting first the kingdom in your live ,God bring your understanding in scripture so that your eyes in the spirit see more,because he unlock that understanding,this is how he gives you courage and show you his love,on a personal base. do not misunderstand the scriptures are  from the spirit of God but are not God, so wen in the scriptures it talks about the holy spirit it talks about the word of God. Peter said that scriptures have been written by men influenced by the holy spirit,so why should it bee that the word be less than the holy spirit. unless we believe the word of God or we do not ,by doing so we accept or reject the holy spirit. there many scriptures in the bible to understand that. T The Word of God comes from the Holy Spirit of God. It is living because the Holy Spirit gives it life. The letter of the word kills. But the Holy Spirit gives it life. The word of God is spoken by the Holy Spirit and is not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not the word of God but rather speaks the word of God and gives it life! Blessings WJ

WJ

The word of God which is the “seed” grows, but the Holy Spirit of God does not grow!
BUT THE HOLY SPIRIT MAKE IT GROW

Mt 4:4 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’
THE” SEED”IS A ILUSTRATION NOT A FACT

Mt 13:10 The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?”
Mt 13:11 He replied, “The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them.
Mt 13:12 Whoever has will be given more, and he will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what he has will be taken from him.
Mt 13:13 This is why I speak to them in parables:
“Though seeing, they do not see;
though hearing, they do not hear or understand.

Mt 13:14 In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah:
“ ‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding;
you will be ever seeing but never perceiving.
Mt 13:15 For this people’s heart has become calloused;
they hardly hear with their ears,
and they have closed their eyes.
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts
and turn, and I would heal them.’
Mt 13:16 But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear.
Mt 13:17 For I tell you the truth, many prophets and righteous men longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.
Mt 13:18 “Listen then to what the parable of the sower means:
Mt 13:19 When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in his heart. This is the seed sown along the path.
Mt 13:20 The one who received the seed that fell on rocky places is the man who hears the word and at once receives it with joy.
Mt 13:21 But since he has no root, he lasts only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, he quickly falls away.
Mt 13:22 The one who received the seed that fell among the thorns is the man who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke it, making it unfruitful.
Mt 13:23 But the one who received the seed that fell on good soil is the man who hears the word and understands it. He produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 04 2010,13:16)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 05 2010,03:46) terraricca,Mar. wrote: georg God is spirit, his word is his to men,this make it holy,the scriptures are all the writings that God as preserve for us,despite the evil one,Christ says it is the living word, I believe and have experienced that by putting first the kingdom in your live ,God bring your understanding in scripture so that your eyes in the spirit see more,because he unlock that understanding,this is how he gives you courage and show you his love,on a personal base. do not misunderstand the scriptures are  from the spirit of God but are not God, so wen in the scriptures it talks about the holy spirit it talks about the word of God. Peter said that scriptures have been written by men influenced by the holy spirit,so why should it bee that the word be less than the holy spirit. unless we believe the word of God or we do not ,by doing so we accept or reject the holy spirit. there many scriptures in the bible to understand that. T The Word of God comes from the Holy Spirit of God. It is living because the Holy Spirit gives it life. The letter of the word kills. But the Holy Spirit gives it life. The word of God is spoken by the Holy Spirit and is not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not the word of God but rather speaks the word of God and gives it life! Blessings WJ

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 04 2010,13:16)

WJ The word of God which is the “seed” grows, but the Holy Spirit of God does not grow! BUT THE HOLY SPIRIT MAKE IT GROW

T

Exactly! Therefore the Holy Spirit is not the word of God!

Blessings WJ

[terraricca]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 05 2010,06:29)

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 04 2010,13:16) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 05 2010,03:46) terraricca,Mar. wrote: georg God is spirit, his word is his to men,this make it holy,the scriptures are all the writings that God as preserve for us,despite the evil one,Christ says it is the living word, I believe and have experienced that by putting first the kingdom in your live ,God bring your understanding in scripture so that your eyes in the spirit see more,because he unlock that understanding,this is how he gives you courage and show you his love,on a personal base. do not misunderstand the scriptures are  from the spirit of God but are not God, so wen in the scriptures it talks about the holy spirit it talks about the word of God. Peter said that scriptures have been written by men influenced by the holy spirit,so why should it bee that the word be less than the holy spirit. unless we believe the word of God or we do not ,by doing so we accept or reject the holy spirit. there many scriptures in the bible to understand that. T The Word of God comes from the Holy Spirit of God. It is living because the Holy Spirit gives it life. The letter of the word kills. But the Holy Spirit gives it life. The word of God is spoken by the Holy Spirit and is not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not the word of God but rather speaks the word of God and gives it life! Blessings WJ Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 04 2010,13:16) WJ The word of God which is the “seed” grows, but the Holy Spirit of God does not grow! BUT THE HOLY SPIRIT MAKE IT GROW T Exactly! Therefore the Holy Spirit is not the word of God! Blessings WJ

wj

MAY BE I HAVE EXPRESS MY SELF NOT CLEARLY,

THE WORD IN IT SELF IS NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT,
THE WORD CONTAINS THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD,
AND ALSO PART OF THE WORD IS THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST.

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Perhaps because the word is of God the numbers confuse ed?

[Worshipping Jesus]

Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 04 2010,16:03)

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 05 2010,06:29) Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 04 2010,13:16) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Mar. 05 2010,03:46) terraricca,Mar. wrote: georg God is spirit, his word is his to men,this make it holy,the scriptures are all the writings that God as preserve for us,despite the evil one,Christ says it is the living word, I believe and have experienced that by putting first the kingdom in your live ,God bring your understanding in scripture so that your eyes in the spirit see more,because he unlock that understanding,this is how he gives you courage and show you his love,on a personal base. do not misunderstand the scriptures are  from the spirit of God but are not God, so wen in the scriptures it talks about the holy spirit it talks about the word of God. Peter said that scriptures have been written by men influenced by the holy spirit,so why should it bee that the word be less than the holy spirit. unless we believe the word of God or we do not ,by doing so we accept or reject the holy spirit. there many scriptures in the bible to understand that. T The Word of God comes from the Holy Spirit of God. It is living because the Holy Spirit gives it life. The letter of the word kills. But the Holy Spirit gives it life. The word of God is spoken by the Holy Spirit and is not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is not the word of God but rather speaks the word of God and gives it life! Blessings WJ Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 04 2010,13:16) WJ The word of God which is the “seed” grows, but the Holy Spirit of God does not grow! BUT THE HOLY SPIRIT MAKE IT GROW T Exactly! Therefore the Holy Spirit is not the word of God! Blessings WJ wj MAY BE I HAVE EXPRESS MY SELF NOT CLEARLY, THE WORD IN IT SELF IS NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT, THE WORD CONTAINS THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD, AND ALSO PART OF THE WORD IS THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST.

Did you vote no?

WJ

[GeneBalthrop]

WJ……..I agree with ED J…..> Jesus said “the words i have spoken unto you (ARE) SPIRIT AND LIFE . The Words of GOD are the (EXACT) EXPRESSION OF GOD HIMSELF. GOD is SPiRIT and this SPIRIT(intellect) IS EXPRESSED IN WORDS , GOD and His word (ARE) ONE and The SAME.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the (Word) and the (word) was with GOD and (WAS) GOD”. WJ …> and you don't have to change anything, of force the text, How clearer can it be and This Word (GOD) was (IN) Jesus , “believe you not that the FATHER (IS) (IN) ME”> How many here truely believe that? GOD is Sown in our hearts by His words we recieve into Us and then GOD is (IN) us also as He is in Jesus Christ, by HIS words.

ED J is right on this………IMO

[GeneBalthrop]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2010,08:31)

Hi T, Perhaps because the word is of God the numbers confuse ed?

Nick……….are we having another cynical attack again? Scripture say “and the WORD WAS GOD”, Have you joined the TRINITARIANS now, Brother

peace and love……………….gene

[NickHassan]

GB,
Spirit is not intellect.
You made that one up.

[GeneBalthrop]

Nick……..If Spirit was not intelligence then we would all be idiots and just die. IMO

[terraricca]

GENE

THE SPIRIT COULD BE KNOWLEDGE AS WELL

[terraricca]

all
1Co 2:13 That is what we speak about. We don’t use words taught to us by people. We use words taught to us by the Holy Spirit. We use the words of the Spirit to teach the truths of the Spirit

this is what the word of god is.

[NickHassan]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 05 2010,12:35)

Nick……..If Spirit was not intelligence then we would all be idiots and just die. IMO

Hi GB,
Anyone who was just intelligent would be cold and boring.
Such folk exist and do not seem to die because of this.

[GeneBalthrop]

Nick……….depends on what intellects (Spirits) are working in him, of the world or GOD. Have you ever understood what the word LOVE Means?. Love is NOT BLIND as You seem to Think. IMO

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