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Quote (Arnold @ May 22 2010,15:23) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 21 2010,06:21) Hi ED,
The three astrologers found truth written in the signs of the heavens[Gen1]
But there is no written evidence that that information saved them.
Information can be a vanity. You must be born again
You know, you can only be “born again” after you die?
What you're referring to is “born from above”, that means, when you receive God's Holy Spirit.Georg
hi georgborn again=Jn 3:3 Jesus replied, “What I’m about to tell you is true. No one can SEE God’s kingdom without being born again.”
Jesus talk about seeing the kingdom of God,
being born again means to stop fallowing the letter of the law,
and now learn and understand the spirit of God and walking with it,
this is totally new and as to be taught that is why Christ came.this is done with the heart and not with works of the law
our action are to guided by the love for God in return of his great love to us,he loved us first.
so you can be born again before you die.
Quote (terraricca @ May 23 2010,16:36) Quote (Arnold @ May 22 2010,15:23) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 21 2010,06:21) Hi ED,
The three astrologers found truth written in the signs of the heavens[Gen1]
But there is no written evidence that that information saved them.
Information can be a vanity. You must be born again
You know, you can only be “born again” after you die?
What you're referring to is “born from above”, that means, when you receive God's Holy Spirit.Georg
hi georgborn again=Jn 3:3 Jesus replied, “What I’m about to tell you is true. No one can SEE God’s kingdom without being born again.”
Jesus talk about seeing the kingdom of God,
being born again means to stop fallowing the letter of the law,
and now learn and understand the spirit of God and walking with it,
this is totally new and as to be taught that is why Christ came.this is done with the heart and not with works of the law
our action are to guided by the love for God in return of his great love to us,he loved us first.
so you can be born again before you die.
What does “born” mean? it means brought forth, brought into existence. when was the “first” time you were “born”? when you were brought into this world, at birth. How can you be brought forth, “born again”? after death, by a “rebirth”.
Jesus was explaining to Nicodemus what a spirit being is like, like the air, like the wind; you can't see either, neither can you see a spirit being. The kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom only those that are “born again” as spirit beings, first resurrection, will be able to see that kingdom.
We don't “see” that kingdom now, but we can perceive it in our heart through our faith.Georg
Quote (Arnold @ May 23 2010,23:49) Quote (terraricca @ May 23 2010,16:36) Quote (Arnold @ May 22 2010,15:23) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 21 2010,06:21) Hi ED,
The three astrologers found truth written in the signs of the heavens[Gen1]
But there is no written evidence that that information saved them.
Information can be a vanity. You must be born again
You know, you can only be “born again” after you die?
What you're referring to is “born from above”, that means, when you receive God's Holy Spirit.Georg
hi georgborn again=Jn 3:3 Jesus replied, “What I’m about to tell you is true. No one can SEE God’s kingdom without being born again.”
Jesus talk about seeing the kingdom of God,
being born again means to stop fallowing the letter of the law,
and now learn and understand the spirit of God and walking with it,
this is totally new and as to be taught that is why Christ came.this is done with the heart and not with works of the law
our action are to guided by the love for God in return of his great love to us,he loved us first.
so you can be born again before you die.
What does “born” mean? it means brought forth, brought into existence. when was the “first” time you were “born”? when you were brought into this world, at birth. How can you be brought forth, “born again”? after death, by a “rebirth”.
Jesus was explaining to Nicodemus what a spirit being is like, like the air, like the wind; you can't see either, neither can you see a spirit being. The kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom only those that are “born again” as spirit beings, first resurrection, will be able to see that kingdom.
We don't “see” that kingdom now, but we can perceive it in our heart through our faith.Georg
hi georgyour view on this is of religion men views.
this is what i see;;Mt 4:17 From that time on Jesus began to preach, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near.”
Mt 4:19 “Come, follow me,” Jesus said, “and I will make you fishers of men.”
Mt 5:2 and he began to teach them, saying:
Mt 5:3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 5:4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
Mt 5:5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
Mt 5:6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
Mt 5:7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
Mt 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
Mt 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called sons of God.
Mt 5:10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 5:11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
Mt 5:12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.Mt 5:13 “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men.
Mt 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Mt 5:19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 5:16 In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven
Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”
Jn 3:31 “The one who comes from above is above all; the one who is from the earth belongs to the earth, and speaks as one from the earth. The one who comes from heaven is above all.
Jn 3:32 He testifies to what he has seen and heard, but no one accepts his testimony.
Jn 3:33 The man who has accepted it has certified that God is truthful.
Jn 3:34 For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God gives the Spirit without limit.
Jn 3:35 The Father loves the Son and has placed everything in his hands.Jn 4:14 but whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”
Jn 4:34 “My food,” said Jesus, “is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work.
Jn 7:6 Therefore Jesus told them, “The right time for me has not yet come; for you any time is right.
Jn 19:30 When he had received the drink, Jesus said, “It is finished.”
Lk 5:36 He told them this parable: “No one tears a patch from a new garment and sews it on an old one. If he does, he will have torn the new garment, and the patch from the new will not match the old.
Lk 5:37 And no one pours new wine into old wineskins. If he does, the new wine will burst the skins, the wine will run out and the wineskins will be ruined.Luk 5;36 and 37 talks about the law that it can not be extended or replaced,but that a new start is needed.
so be BORN AGAIN.
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ May 24 2010,03:07) Quote (Arnold @ May 23 2010,23:49) Quote (terraricca @ May 23 2010,16:36) Quote (Arnold @ May 22 2010,15:23) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 21 2010,06:21) Hi ED,
The three astrologers found truth written in the signs of the heavens[Gen1]
But there is no written evidence that that information saved them.
Information can be a vanity. You must be born again
You know, you can only be “born again” after you die?
What you're referring to is “born from above”, that means, when you receive God's Holy Spirit.Georg
hi georgborn again=Jn 3:3 Jesus replied, “What I’m about to tell you is true. No one can SEE God’s kingdom without being born again.”
Jesus talk about seeing the kingdom of God,
being born again means to stop fallowing the letter of the law,
and now learn and understand the spirit of God and walking with it,
this is totally new and as to be taught that is why Christ came.this is done with the heart and not with works of the law
our action are to guided by the love for God in return of his great love to us,he loved us first.
so you can be born again before you die.
What does “born” mean? it means brought forth, brought into existence. when was the “first” time you were “born”? when you were brought into this world, at birth. How can you be brought forth, “born again”? after death, by a “rebirth”.
Jesus was explaining to Nicodemus what a spirit being is like, like the air, like the wind; you can't see either, neither can you see a spirit being. The kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom only those that are “born again” as spirit beings, first resurrection, will be able to see that kingdom.
We don't “see” that kingdom now, but we can perceive it in our heart through our faith.Georg
hi georgyour view on this is of religion men views.
this is what i see;;Mt 4:17 From that time on Jesus began to preach, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is near.”
Mt 4:19 “Come, follow me,” Jesus said, “and I will make you fishers of men.”
Mt 5:2 and he began to teach them, saying:
Mt 5:3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 5:4 Blessed are those who mourn,
for they will be comforted.
Mt 5:5 Blessed are the meek,
for they will inherit the earth.
Mt 5:6 Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they will be filled.
Mt 5:7 Blessed are the merciful,
for they will be shown mercy.
Mt 5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart,
for they will see God.
Mt 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they will be called sons of God.
Mt 5:10 Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 5:11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me.
Mt 5:12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.Mt 5:13 “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its saltiness, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men.
Mt 5:17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Mt 5:19 Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Mt 5:16 In the same way, let your light shine before men, that they may see your good deeds and praise your Father in heaven
Jn 3:19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil.
Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”
Jn 3:31 “The one who comes from above is above all; the one who is from the earth belongs to the earth, and speaks as one from the earth. The one who comes from heaven is above all.
Jn 3:32 He testifies to what he has seen and heard, but no one accepts his testimony.
Jn 3:33 The man who has accepted it has certified that God is truthful.
Jn 3:34 For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God gives the Spirit without limit.
Jn 3:35 The Father loves the Son and has placed everything in his hands.Jn 4:14 but whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”
Jn 4:34 “My food,” said Jesus, “is to do the will of him who sent me and to finish his work.
Jn 7:6 Therefore Jesus told them, “The right time for me has not yet come; for you any time is right.
Jn 19:30 When he had received the drink, Jesus said, “It is finished.”
Lk 5:36 He told them this parable: “No one tears a patch from a new garment and sews it on an old one. If he does, he will have torn the new garment, and the patch from the new will not match the old.
Lk 5:37 And no one pours new wine into old wineskins. If he does, the new wine will burst the skins, the wine will run out and the wineskins will be ruined.Luk 5;36 and 37 talks about the law that it can not be extended or replaced,but that a new start is needed.
so be BORN AGAIN.
Pierre
Yes, I do consider myself a religious man.
You do feel comfort in numbers of scriptures, don't you?
What does reciting the Olivette prophecy have to do with “born again”? for that matter, what do the rest of the scriptures you mention have to do with it?
Jesus, being the King of the kingdom of God, had every reason to say, the kingdom is near; but, he is not reigning yet.Georg
georg
is the kingdom of God not in heaven, ?? and so Christ says the kingdom is near only because he is not in heaven from were he is ruling,it is only after his dead that he is in place as king of the kingdom,while on earth his people are persecuted.because they are citizen of that kingdom.
i do not look for quantity of verses ,i think that most of the time scriptures talk better than i can.
sorry i never heard of the name Olivette prophecy
if Christ does not reign,this is news to me ,i know that the judgement and the execution of the judgement is not done,but that does not mean he does not reign,the work what as been set out for him to do is going on since his dead.
Pierre
“””is the kingdom of God not in heaven, ??””” NO!
Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
You are correct, I confused Mat. 5 with Mat. 24.
Mat 24:3 ¶ And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
When Jesus begins to reign, Satan will have been locked away, as you can tell, he is still doing his evil work.
I use scriptures too, but they have to be in line with the subject.
The work was for the gospel to be preached all over the world, and that is still going on.Georg
Quote (Arnold @ May 25 2010,02:01) Pierre “””is the kingdom of God not in heaven, ??””” NO!
Rev 5:10 And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
You are correct, I confused Mat. 5 with Mat. 24.
Mat 24:3 ¶ And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
When Jesus begins to reign, Satan will have been locked away, as you can tell, he is still doing his evil work.
I use scriptures too, but they have to be in line with the subject.
The work was for the gospel to be preached all over the world, and that is still going on.Georg
georgthe kingdom is an heavenly kingdom,and he is in power with the 144k just like David ad to reign for some years after being anointed king,and Christ has been anointed as high priest and king,after his resurrection.
the ones who will be on earth and be kings and priest on earth
will be the Prophets,like Jeremy,Daniel,lot.Job,Joseph,David,
and all the alike.and please compere Mat 24,Luk 21,and Mak 13
Mat 24:3 ¶ And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
by looking at all the 3 gospels it would make things more clear.
and I do not believe that the reign of Christ start at the beginning of the 1000years and wen Satan is lock up.
Pierre
Pierre
When were the 144,000 resurrected, in 70 AD? by then they had not even been chosen.
Yes it is a kingdom “OF” heaven, not “IN” heaven.“””and I do not believe that the reign of Christ start at the beginning of the 1000years and wen Satan is lock up.”””
Well then, what do you believe?
The saints, including the 144,000, will reign with him on earth, look at Rev. 5:10, and Rev. 20:6 again.
When do you think Satan will be locked up for a 1000 years? If Satan would remain on earth while Jesus is reigning, we would have two kings reigning, because Satan is reigning now, you would have the same confusion that we have now; that is not going to happen.“””the ones who will be on earth and be kings and priest on earth will be the Prophets, like Jeremy, Daniel, lot, Job, Joseph, David, and all the alike.”””
How do you come to that conclusion? They were all faithful people, but how do they come under the new covenant made in blood?
Psa 50:5 Gather my saints together unto me; those that have made a covenant with me by sacrifice.
Georg
Quote (terraricca @ May 26 2010,11:00) georg is the faith of Abraham and covenant God made with him, without blood??
NO, Gen. 15:9,10,17,18.Is this how you get not to respond to my post, changing the subject?
Georg
Quote (Arnold @ May 26 2010,12:57) Quote (terraricca @ May 26 2010,11:00) georg is the faith of Abraham and covenant God made with him, without blood??
NO, Gen. 15:9,10,17,18.Is this how you get not to respond to my post, changing the subject?
Georg
georgis there no blood wen you get circomsiced??
Ge 17:13 Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant.
Ge 17:14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenantPierre
Quote (terraricca @ May 26 2010,16:43) Quote (Arnold @ May 26 2010,12:57) Quote (terraricca @ May 26 2010,11:00) georg is the faith of Abraham and covenant God made with him, without blood??
NO, Gen. 15:9,10,17,18.Is this how you get not to respond to my post, changing the subject?
Georg
georgis there no blood wen you get circomsiced??
Ge 17:13 Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant.
Ge 17:14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenantPierre
Yes, of course there would be, but, I am not an Israelite, I am not circumcised.Gal 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
Georg
hi,
The Word of God is spiritual.
Those who attempt to search for gnats of truth using just science and logic swallow many camels of confusion.Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2010,05:57) hi,
The Word of God is spiritual.
Those who attempt to search for gnats of truth using just science and logic swallow many camels of confusion.
How many camels have you swallowed?Georg
Quote (Arnold @ May 26 2010,22:09) Quote (terraricca @ May 26 2010,16:43) Quote (Arnold @ May 26 2010,12:57) Quote (terraricca @ May 26 2010,11:00) georg is the faith of Abraham and covenant God made with him, without blood??
NO, Gen. 15:9,10,17,18.Is this how you get not to respond to my post, changing the subject?
Georg
georgis there no blood wen you get circomsiced??
Ge 17:13 Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant.
Ge 17:14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenantPierre
Yes, of course there would be, but, I am not an Israelite, I am not circumcised.Gal 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
Georg
georgwhat you are saying without the blood of live,like Christ as given his blood to be poured out of live,and so become a better covenant.
this is why the circoncision is nothing.?
Pierre
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 27 2010,10:12) Hi,
As Georg says many folk come here to teach and not to learn.
So what are you doing here? you do neither.Georg
Quote (terraricca @ May 27 2010,10:49) Quote (Arnold @ May 26 2010,22:09) Quote (terraricca @ May 26 2010,16:43) Quote (Arnold @ May 26 2010,12:57) Quote (terraricca @ May 26 2010,11:00) georg is the faith of Abraham and covenant God made with him, without blood??
NO, Gen. 15:9,10,17,18.Is this how you get not to respond to my post, changing the subject?
Georg
georgis there no blood wen you get circomsiced??
Ge 17:13 Whether born in your household or bought with your money, they must be circumcised. My covenant in your flesh is to be an everlasting covenant.
Ge 17:14 Any uncircumcised male, who has not been circumcised in the flesh, will be cut off from his people; he has broken my covenantPierre
Yes, of course there would be, but, I am not an Israelite, I am not circumcised.Gal 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.
Georg
georgwhat you are saying without the blood of live,like Christ as given his blood to be poured out of live,and so become a better covenant.
this is why the circoncision is nothing.?
Pierre
“””Yes, of course there would be, but, I am not an Israelite, I am not circumcised.”””
This is what I said.“””Gal 5:6 For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love.”””
This is what the Bible says.
So, what are you saying?Georg
Hi Georg,
No I learn every day.
But your opinion plus a scripture approach is a reminder to all of us to dig deeper.Priests do not serve kings do they?
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