Is baptism needed for salvation?

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,

You do not need it
Delve into your storehouse

You have a few brothers?
I have 8

[Ed J]

I think its in Acts 19

[NickHassan]

Hi Ed,
What is?

[Ed J]

The Gentiles being baptized with God's HolySpirit without water baptism?

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 04 2014,10:05)

Hi T, Any one who has been baptised can do the same for others. Paul had precious wisdom to teach so others could carry on after he had started Sorry this makes no sense “THESE WHERE 12 OF THEM ,”  ??

N

i pointing out that their were only 12 of then (Jews)

but it shows that Paul was not send to baptize gentiles ,

but to preach the gospel to them and so to believe in God and his son ;

understand the prodigy son parable

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Wherever the gospel was responded to those who responded were baptised in water and the Spirit.
Nothing has changed

The gospel is ignored

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,00:56)

Hi T, Wherever the gospel was responded to those who responded were baptised in water and the Spirit. Nothing has changed The gospel is ignored

nICK

THE SPIRIT WAS TRANSMITTED THROUGH THE APOSTLES HAND LAYING ,NOT TROUGH WATER BAPTISM ,

BAPTISM AND CIRCUMCISION ARE CEREMONIAL EVENT FOR THE JEWS THAT ACCEPTED CHRIST AND THE NEW COVENANT , MANY ARE NOT PART OF THE NEW COVENANT (144K) AND ARE DESTINE FOR THE EARTH

ALSO SEE THE FIRST OF GOD COMMANDMENT

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
True
Put into washed vessels.
Baptism is the new circumcision. [col 2]

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,03:32)

Hi T, True Put into washed vessels. Baptism is the new circumcision. [col 2]

N

yes and so it is the circumcision and the baptism OF THE HEART

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Where is baptism of the heart?
Did you make it up?

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,04:44)

Hi T, Where is baptism of the heart? Did you make it up?

N

1KI 8:48 if they return to You with all their heart and with all their soul in the land of their enemies who have taken them captive, and pray to You toward their land which You have given to their fathers, the city which You have chosen, and the house which I have built for Your name;

1KI 2:4 so that the LORD may carry out His promise which He spoke concerning me, saying, ‘ If your sons are careful of their way, to walk before Me in truth with all their heart and with all their soul, you shall not lack a man on the throne of Israel.’

MT 13:15 FOR HEART OF THIS PEOPLE HAS BECOME DULL,
WITH THEIR EARS THEY SCARCELY HEAR,
AND THEY HAVE CLOSED THEIR EYES,
OTHERWISE THEY WOULD SEE WITH THEIR EYES,
HEAR THEIR EARS,
AND UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEART AND RETURN,
AND I WOULD HEAL THEM.’

MT 15:8 ‘THIS PEOPLE HONORS ME WITH THEIR LIPS,
BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR AWAY FROM ME.

LK 8:12 “Those beside the road are those who have heard; then the devil comes and takes away the word from their heart, so that they will not believe and be saved.

2CO 3:15 But to this day whenever Moses is read, a veil lies over their heart;

IS THIS YOUR CASE NICK ;THE ABOVE VERSE

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
So you made it up

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,04:57)

Hi T, So you made it up

N

SO YOU ARE BLIND AS PER CHRIST WORDS

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Out come the claws again.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,05:09)

Hi T, Out come the claws again.

N

I GIVE YOU THE SCRIPTURES TO BACK MY AND SUPPORT MY VIEW ,

NOT ONLY YOU DENY THE SCRIPTURES BUT YOU INSULT ME AS WELL ,

SHOW ME YOUR SCRIPTURES ;

AND I WILL SHOW MORE OF MINE

[NickHassan]

hi T,
But you do not understand what you post.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,05:26)

hi T, But you do not understand what you post.

[Wakeup]

The jews were baptised and circumcised;and they are blinded.
So what has baptism and circumcisiondone for them?

wakeup.

[NickHassan]

Hi WU,
God takes a crop.
His word never returns to him void
Lk7
28 For I say unto you, Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist: but he that is least in the kingdom of God is greater than he.

29 And all the people that heard him, and the publicans, justified God, being baptized with the baptism of John.

30 But the Pharisees and lawyers rejected the counsel of God against themselves, being not baptized of him.

[Wakeup]

Christians are baptised with water and all claim to be born again; and there will be a great falling away.
So what was that baptism and born again ;all about?

You can not deny scriptures.
It says clearly;there will be a falling away.
Born again christians falling away.This is sad to see,despite
all those claims.

wakeup.

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