Is baptism needed for salvation?

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  • #383779
    terraricca
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,01:15)
    Hi T,
    I hesitate to give you answers because they are only tests to you to see who agrees with your dogmas


    N

    I have no dogmas ,you have many not me

    #383787
    NickHassan
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    Hi,
    Water baptism is for the forgiveness of your sins.acts 2.37-8
    God does not pour his HOLY Spirit into dirty vessels

    #383790
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    All have sinned
    All must repent

    There is only one way and those who try to enter by other ways than the gate are thieves and robbers

    #383812
    942767
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 20 2014,07:54)
    Hi,
    Water saves according to 1 Peter 3
    Men prefer to disagree


    Hi Nick:

    Water baptism is symbolic of that, but no, it does not save anyone. We are saved by faith, so that it might be by grace not of works, baptism is a work of obedience to the Word of God.

    Unless one has believed the gospel with a repentant heart water baptism does not mean a thing. A person who is baptized without having believed with a repentant heart goes into the water a dry sinner and comes out a wet one, there has been no change of heart.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #383822
    NickHassan
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    Hi 94,
    By being obeyed as part of the command of God it saves
    1peter 3.21

    #383823
    NickHassan
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    Hi 94,
    Of course without repentance it is just useless washing, acts 8.9-24

    #383834
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,13:26)
    Hi 94,
    Of course without repentance it is just useless washing, acts 8.9-24


    Repent for a while,and the back to the dirt.

    wakeup.

    #383837
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 23 2014,09:25)
    H,
    Acts 11,

    I was in the city of Joppa praying: and in a trance I saw a vision, A certain vessel descend, as it had been a great sheet, let down from heaven by four corners; and it came even to me:

    6 Upon the which when I had fastened mine eyes, I considered, and saw fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air.

    7 And I heard a voice saying unto me, Arise, Peter; slay and eat.

    8 But I said, Not so, Lord: for nothing common or unclean hath at any time entered into my mouth.

    9 But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

    10 And this was done three times: and all were drawn up again into heaven.

    11 And, behold, immediately there were three men already come unto the house where I was, sent from Caesarea unto me.

    12 And the Spirit bade me go with them, nothing doubting. Moreover these six brethren accompanied me, and we entered into the man's house:

    13 And he shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon, whose surname is Peter;

    14 Who shall tell thee words, whereby thou and all thy house shall be saved.

    15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.

    16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.

    17 Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God?

    18 When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.


    N

    It seems that your verse 16 of act 11 does not coordinate with Act 10:47, it seems to me that the translators mess up this contradiction,

    If we eliminate the verse 47 I mean the words that Peter supposedly have said, you then can see that the verse in act 10:16 become true and no contradiction is found,

    Beside the baptism of John there are two more baptism that are mention 1) baptism in the name of Christ what means by the holy spirit and 2) the baptism in the death of Christ , meaning die faithfully in the truth of God ,

    Those 3 baptism are well explained in scriptures , one baptism also is stopped for being replaced by the next one , meaning the one of Christ , the work of John was completed when he testified who was the Christ that was to come after him,

    John 1: 31_34

    #383843
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,
    All confusion I'm afraid
    Try again

    #383844
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    It is all preparation for becoming a child of God
    But you will have to wait for your birth

    #383916
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Clearly you are cynical about water baptism because of the false baptisms you have observed bearing bad fruit.
    It does not change the requirement of God though

    #384008
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,12:31)
    Hi T,
    All confusion I'm afraid
    Try again


    n

    that is not a answer,but a opinion

    #384009
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,12:31)
    Hi T,
    All confusion I'm afraid
    Try again


    n

    are you blind ???

    #384330
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,17:32)
    Hi WU,
    It is all preparation for becoming a child of God
    But you will have to wait for your birth


    Go in the water to repent;then come out of the water twice the child of hell.

    wakeup.

    #384332
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Interesting.
    Have you seen some baptised in water in the name of Jesus who fell away?

    #384334
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2014,08:07)
    Hi WU,
    Interesting.
    Have you seen some baptised in water in the name of Jesus who fell away?


    Nick

    There are so many that says the have the faith and yet preach lies, to those that listen to them,

    Do you think they have fallen away ???

    #384335
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2014,12:32)
    Hi WU,
    It is all preparation for becoming a child of God
    But you will have to wait for your birth


    Nick

    No, it is to make prozelites

    #384338
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    It is for the forgiveness if sins.
    But some feel they do not need that.

    He only came for sinners

    #384339
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2014,08:29)
    Hi,
    It is for the forgiveness if sins.
    But some feel they do not need that.

    He only came for sinners


    Nick

    Ezekiel says ,,, if I tell to go to the wicked and tell him to change his ways and he listen , you will have saved your life and his life

    If he does not listen then you will save your life and his blood will fall on his head,

    #384349
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    You stuck in the OT?
    Jesus said that but you disagree?

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