Is baptism needed for salvation?

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  • #382266
    NickHassan
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    Hi,
    Acts 19
    19 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,

    2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.

    3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.

    4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

    5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

    6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

    #382267
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Acts 10,
    While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

    45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

    47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

    48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

    #382296
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 15 2014,08:26)
    Hi,
    Acts 10,
    While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

    45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

    46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,

    47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

    48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.


    Nick.

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    47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

    You have just contradicted these scriptures you quoted.
    Those gentiles were not baptized with water,untill after
    they have received the Holy ghost.

    One can receive the Holy ghost even not baptized.

    wakeup.

    #382298
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    No contradiction.

    Both are required but the order may be varied by God according to the cleanliness of the vessel.

    Sadly some men assume they have the Spirit by some abilities they think they have acquired and fail to obey and satisfy the righteousness of God

    #382305
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 15 2014,11:08)
    Hi WU,
    No contradiction.

    Both are required but the order may be varied by God according to the cleanliness of the vessel.

    Sadly some men assume they have the Spirit by some abilities they think they have acquired and fail to obey and satisfy the righteousness of God


    Nick.

    The facts speaks for it self.
    Those gentiles received the HS without being baptized.
    The water baptism came later.

    The apostles were baptised first; the HS came later.

    Lets say those gentiles died after receiving the HS,and are not baptised with water. What then?
    Are they rejected?

    wakeup.

    #382310
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 15 2014,02:14)
    Hi WU,
    One gospel.
    One faith and one hope


    Nick.

    The gospel you preach is not one, but many.
    All over the place.I call it clatter.

    wakeup.

    #382312
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    So what you said about a cracked record you now withdraw.
    You lack so much understanding

    #382318
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Ask God.
    He knows best.
    But it all shown for your education

    #382387
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 15 2014,11:54)
    Hi WU,
    So what you said about a cracked record you now withdraw.
    You lack so much understanding


    Nick.

    You are now claiming you have it all.
    You are saved.
    You are spirit.
    What kind of spirit?
    scotch whisky?

    wakeup.

    #382389
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Casting around for someone to injure now you have been exposed?
    Wake up

    #382394
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 15 2014,17:39)
    Hi WU,
    Casting around for someone to injure now you have been exposed?
    Wake up


    Nick.

    You are sure that you are saved, and no second coming can change that.
    You will be injured.

    wakeup.

    #382395
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    No I hope to have pleased my Master.
    Don't you?

    #382396
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,
    Ps 123
    To You I lift up my eyes,
    O You who are enthroned in the heavens!
    2 Behold, as the eyes of servants look to the hand of their master,
    As the eyes of a maid to the hand of her mistress,
    So our eyes look to the Lord our God,
    Until He is gracious to us.
    3 Be gracious to us, O Lord, be gracious to us,
    For we are greatly filled with contempt.
    4 Our soul is greatly filled
    With the scoffing of those who are at ease,
    And with the contempt of the proud.

    #382486
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 15 2014,19:59)
    Hi WU,
    No I hope to have pleased my Master.
    Don't you?


    Nick.

    It seems that you have been accepted according to your believe. For you are saved, and born again.
    You can not be unsaved, and unborn anymore.
    You have made it.

    wakeup.

    #382487
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,
    Is that what you think?
    You show your ignorance
    God's servants are busy folk

    #382573
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 16 2014,11:52)
    Hi WU,
    Is that what you think?
    You show your ignorance
    God's servants are busy folk


    Nick.

    To say that you are saved and born again,means
    that you have made it before the end is come.
    You are judged;and accepted by the Lord.
    To be born again is the reward,and you have got it.

    Than you claim that you are still labouring to be accepted.
    Do you see us all as being senile?
    Or is it you?

    wakeup.

    #382586
    NickHassan
    Participant

    WU,
    Your argument is with scripture
    as usual

    #382662
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 17 2014,03:12)
    WU,
    Your argument is with scripture
    as usual


    Nick.

    No scripture will change you mind; that is set as concrete.
    You are obstinate.

    wakeup.

    #382666
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU.
    God does not allow me to agree with those who wander from the path of truth

    #382673
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 17 2014,14:19)
    Hi WU.
    God does not allow me to agree with those who wander from the path of truth


    Nick.

    Wander from your truth.

    wakeup.

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