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Quote (georg @ Oct. 14 2009,19:05) I hear many saying that we should be Baptized in Christ, but what does the Scriptures tell us about that. I did not get an answer when I ask that Question before, so I looked it up in the Concordance. Jesus said this:”
Math. 28:19 ” Go therefore and make disciples of all the ntions, Baptizing them in
THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
verse 29 teaching them to observe all things tt I hav commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of ages.” men.Peace an Love Irene
Hi Irene.There is a physical babtism,(water) and there is a spiritual babtism. there is a physical circumcision,and there is a spiritual circumcision, of the heart.
I always have this question in me:
And that is; what if one was babtized by a corrupt priest?
would that babtism count; will God listen to his words,in the ceremony?The thief on the cross was instantly babtized by the spirit.
Moses and his people were all babtized in the cloud and in the sea:
And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
And did all drink the same spiritual drink; for they all drink of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that rock is christ.wakeup.
Quote (kerwin @ Feb. 16 2012,01:12) To all, What does name mean in the following sentence?
An ambassador is sent to the UN in the name of his country.
To all,if “name” is used to mean authority as it was in the sentence I gave then the authority of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is the same authority as the authority of Jesus.
Can anyone give evidence why name does not mean authority?
Hi Kerwin,
That is indeed “ONE” of the meanings. But that does not preclude the other meaning. (and vice versa)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Feb. 16 2012,11:06) Hi Kerwin, That is indeed “ONE” of the meanings. But that does not preclude the other meaning. (and vice versa)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed J,To fight over this issue using the other meanings becomes a vain dispute over words. The bottom line is you need to be immersed in water by the authority of Jesus Anointed to receive the miracle of spiritual rebirth.
Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 17 2012,03:29) Kerwin, Do you believe that Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are names?
Marlin
Marlin,They are according to the common Greek understanding of the word name.
If you are instead asking if they are proper names then I believe that at least the Son is not.
Matthew 28:19 is not about proper names as it is a spiritual teaching and not a worldly one.
Kerwin, Thanks for responding.
Quote They are according to the common Greek understanding of the word name. Do you have any reference for this? I don't understand and would like to read.
In Mat 28, it says Name…(one name) and not names…(three) Is there an explanation for that?
I already know that some think that this scripture was added later, because it doesn't fit their doctrine.
God Bless
MarlinHi WU,
You should have some evidence that the thief manifested the work of the Spirit before saying this.“The thief on the cross was instantly babtized by the spirit.”
Baptism is not a magic ritual that cleanses of itself. That is what catholics believe and so they pour water over faithless infants.
It is not done in the name of any church or in any name but that of Jesus.It is required of God, however, in response to REPENTANCE which only faith and insight can lead to.
Even repentance is a gift of God.Baptism in Acts was performed in obedience by God's servants.
Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 17 2012,22:24) Kerwin, Thanks for responding. Quote They are according to the common Greek understanding of the word name. Do you have any reference for this? I don't understand and would like to read.
In Mat 28, it says Name…(one name) and not names…(three) Is there an explanation for that?
I already know that some think that this scripture was added later, because it doesn't fit their doctrine.
God Bless
Marlin
Marlin,Here is one source.
Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 16 2012,09:24) Quote (georg @ Oct. 14 2009,19:05) I hear many saying that we should be Baptized in Christ, but what does the Scriptures tell us about that. I did not get an answer when I ask that Question before, so I looked it up in the Concordance. Jesus said this:”
Math. 28:19 ” Go therefore and make disciples of all the ntions, Baptizing them in
THE NAME OF THE FATHER AND OF THE SON AND OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
verse 29 teaching them to observe all things tt I hav commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of ages.” men.Peace an Love Irene
Hi Irene.There is a physical babtism,(water) and there is a spiritual babtism. there is a physical circumcision,and there is a spiritual circumcision, of the heart.
I always have this question in me:
And that is; what if one was babtized by a corrupt priest?
would that babtism count; will God listen to his words,in the ceremony?The thief on the cross was instantly babtized by the spirit.
Moses and his people were all babtized in the cloud and in the sea:
And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
And did all drink the same spiritual drink; for they all drink of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that rock is christ.wakeup.
Wakeup,Jesus taught that the Spirit would not come until he left, John 16:6. Like unto Abraham the thief and those previous to him you speak of were merely credited with righteousness.
Kerwin.
yes, The apostles did not understand all the parables Jesus taught;untill jesus send them the holy spirit which is the spirit of truth.
wakeup.
Quote (Marlin1 @ Feb. 17 2012,08:29) Kerwin, Do you believe that Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are names?
Marlin
Marlin.IN THE NAME–OF THE FATHER THE SON AND THE HOLY GHOST. WHAT IS THE HOLY GHOSTS NAME?
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Feb. 18 2012,07:51) Kerwin. yes, The apostles did not understand all the parables Jesus taught;untill jesus send them the holy spirit which is the spirit of truth.
wakeup.
The Prophets spoke by the Spirit of God so it could not be speaking or understanding by the spirit. What Jesus spoke of is the Spirit which freed those in captivity to sin and made them servants of righteousness, John 8:31-36 and Romans 6:15-23.Galatians 5
New International Version (NIV)22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit.
The thief and those before him as Jesus had not yet died and been resurrected and so they could not die and be resurrected with him, Romans 6:3-10.
Quote IN THE NAME–OF THE FATHER THE SON AND THE HOLY GHOST. WHAT IS THE HOLY GHOSTS NAME? Hi Wakeup,
That wasn't my question. I ask if you thought father, son or Holy Ghost were names?
Are they?Marlin
Hi,
Eusebius records that the original copy of Matthew28.19 read “in my name”
The apostles all baptised in the name of Jesus.
Men changed it.Nick, I have heard both sides of this story. The debate rages on. If the statement is true, then it is just validation for Isa 9:6. Yet man debates that scripture too. I believe Jesus' disciples new who He was. The Spirit in Him was the Father, Son and Holy Ghost. Three offices of the same God. God making Himself smaller, the untouchable Father, the touchable Son, and then the same Spirit in US.
Marlin
marlin
Quote God making Himself smaller, the untouchable Father, the touchable Son, and then the same Spirit in US. WHY,? WHY.? WHY,? WHY,?? and for WHOM,?,WHOM,? WHOM,? and for WHAT,?,WHAT,? WHAT,?
for someone else SIN
?please answer the questions
Hi Marlin,
God and Jesus Christ now manifest to those who fellowship with them in the Spirit.[2jn]
The Spirit is not separate from either but binds us to both.
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