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To Kejonn……> have you checked out this site, bibletruths.com. by L Ray Smith, I wish you would and tell me what you think about His paper on the lake of Fire. It makes very good sence to me. Check it out and see what you think brother……gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 26 2007,09:59) Kenrch……> it also say's. “Who are you who judges another mans servant, for He will srand or fall to his own master”, and that's not you!. and again, ” He who started a work in you will perform it, until the day of Christ.
and again, ” whom the Lord called, them He also predestinated to be conformed unto the Lord Jesus Christ”
and again,” Him who condems His brother also comdems Himself”
It seems to me you doin't believe God is able to keep all those He calls and chooses, and maybe that's a sign of your lack of true Faith. Mandy, and Kejonn and all of us are growing in our walk with the Lord.
Please stop casting condesending despersions on brothers and sisters. God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble. Mandy and Kejonn are no more dying like a slowly cooked frog then you are.
And even if you see something going on with one of Us, shouldn't you try to show Love and Kindness to Us. Even Jesus said He came not to condemn the world, but to save. But you are condemning people to the unforgivible sin. So I gess you will be their also, “For He who condemns His brother, condemns Himself”, and “whatsoever you deal out will be dealt unto you”, isn't that what it say's.
Stop doing this Ken, ……….gene
That's right who are you to tell me I'm judging!Quote (kejonn @ Nov. 26 2007,07:37) Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 23 2007,19:27) You should wake up before YOU commit the unpardonable sin as kejonn has! I'm SORRY but that is exactly what he has done rejecting the Son of God! “Always keeping a SPOT for Him in his soul”! Searching the OT to see who Jesus was?! These are his words and i fear soon to be yours!
A concerned Brother!!!!!!
Ken!
I would request you keep my name out of your conversations unless you are responding to a post I make. You have no idea what my relationship with God is.
I'm sorry kejonn but didn't you say you don't believe Jesus to be the Messiah since you have found your new friend. OR something like “Jesus the Messiah… the bible doesn't say so” “I will have to search to find who Jesus was”! Jesus will always have a place in my heart. Didn't Isiah18 respond “I hope I don't get like that” and 94 giving an Amen brother to Isiah18.You didn't say these things?
Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 24 2007,12:27) You should wake up before YOU commit the unpardonable sin as kejonn has! I'm SORRY but that is exactly what he has done rejecting the Son of God!
Kenrch…….> and you say your not judging people, give us a break. I haven't seen anyone judge and condemn on this web site like you have, while all the time acting like you really care about them. Please tell Us what's saying that Kejonn has commited the unpardonable sin is then if it isn't judging another. You have proven by your own words that you ARE judging others, no worse you are condemning them. And in my opinion your in no position to judge or condemn anyone on this site or any others as far as that goes. While committing on what some one say's is one thing, casting despersions is quite another.“for He that condemns another condemns (HIMSELF)”.
do you believe it or not Ken………..gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 26 2007,15:53) Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 24 2007,12:27) You should wake up before YOU commit the unpardonable sin as kejonn has! I'm SORRY but that is exactly what he has done rejecting the Son of God!
Kenrch…….> and you say your not judging people, give us a break. I haven't seen anyone judge and condemn on this web site like you have, while all the time acting like you really care about them. Please tell Us what's saying that Kejonn has commited the unpardonable sin is then if it isn't judging another. You have proven by your own words that you ARE judging others, no worse you are condemning them. And in my opinion your in no position to judge or condemn anyone on this site or any others as far as that goes. While committing on what some one say's is one thing, casting despersions is quite another.“for He that condemns another condemns (HIMSELF)”.
do you believe it or not Ken………..gene
kejonn said that Jesus was not the Messiah. ThaT'S NOT THE UNPARDONABLE SIN unless KEJONN NEVER HAS BEEN FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT. Could that be? But not according to what he himself said.In your opinion?! Ha! You sit and watch people go wrong and say nothing! And YOU KNOW they are going wrong BUT to save face you say nothing!
So really your opinion means the same what you said NOTHING!
Ken,
People like yourself caused me to question Christianity in the first place. I knew too many like you who spent their time belittling others because they didn't believe the same way they did. It was at that time that I realized that there were so many problems with the Christian religion that I began to investigate the supposed roots of the faith, the Tanakh. So in some ways I thank nasty Christians for their poor attitude. Without people like you I would have never found the truth.
Thanks Ken.
Quote (Towshab @ Nov. 26 2007,17:02) Ken, People like yourself caused me to question Christianity in the first place. I knew too many like you who spent their time belittling others because they didn't believe the same way they did. It was at that time that I realized that there were so many problems with the Christian religion that I began to investigate the supposed roots of the faith, the Tanakh. So in some ways I thank nasty Christians for their poor attitude. Without people like you I would have never found the truth.
Thanks Ken.
That's it keep on attacking me that will work! I'm sure your “new” attitude will win over many!Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 25 2007,20:47) To Kejonn……> have you checked out this site, bibletruths.com. by L Ray Smith, I wish you would and tell me what you think about His paper on the lake of Fire. It makes very good sence to me. Check it out and see what you think brother……gene
I have looked at his site some time in the past. It had some things I agreed with and some I did not. I seem to recall that he had a very odd explanation for the time Yeshua spent in the tomb. I'll have to check it out again some time in the future. I do recall the site being a pain to navigate.Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 25 2007,21:30) I'm sorry kejonn but didn't you say you don't believe Jesus to be the Messiah since you have found your new friend. OR something like “Jesus the Messiah… the bible doesn't say so” “I will have to search to find who Jesus was”! Jesus will always have a place in my heart. Didn't Isiah18 respond “I hope I don't get like that” and 94 giving an Amen brother to Isiah18. You didn't say these things?
Actually that idea came from another Christian some time back. That fellow was an odd sort. He believes in the Urantia book as well as the Bible. Well, he actually believes in the Urantia book more than the Bible!Anyway, he had put forward some time ago that Yeshua was not the Jewish Messiah but rather the Gentile Savior. At the time I just wrote that of as rambling but the more I study the more I see some possibilities in this.
The Messiah put forward in the Tanach does not match what Yeshua did in his lifetime. From what I read of both New Testament and Tanach, I believe the Jewish Messiah will come on the scene when Yeshua returns. The Jewish Messiah was never meant to be a spiritual savior. Only God can save the soul and Yeshua was specifically sent by God to bring the Gentiles to Him as well.
As far as “my new friend” I assume you mean Towshab. I would not call him a friend but you can if it makes you feel better.
I will agree with Towshab that you do get a quite harsh with other Christians on here. In my months here I have seen you berate so many people just because they do not agree with you. You also know I have approached you about this many times because I felt it was not becoming of a Christian to treat people the way you do. You always came back that I had hate when it is quite obvious that hate is something you struggle deeply with. If you treat your personal friends like this I feel sorrowful for them. They don't need that abuse.
In the meantime though, please refrain from bringing my name up in your posts to other people. You have no right mentioning me or my relationship with God unless you are communicating directly with me. If you feel you need to drag other people into you conversations to puff yourself up then please leave me off of the list. If not you will end up with 2 little yellow blocks by your avatar.
Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 25 2007,23:53) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 26 2007,15:53) Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 24 2007,12:27) You should wake up before YOU commit the unpardonable sin as kejonn has! I'm SORRY but that is exactly what he has done rejecting the Son of God!
Kenrch…….> and you say your not judging people, give us a break. I haven't seen anyone judge and condemn on this web site like you have, while all the time acting like you really care about them. Please tell Us what's saying that Kejonn has commited the unpardonable sin is then if it isn't judging another. You have proven by your own words that you ARE judging others, no worse you are condemning them. And in my opinion your in no position to judge or condemn anyone on this site or any others as far as that goes. While committing on what some one say's is one thing, casting despersions is quite another.“for He that condemns another condemns (HIMSELF)”.
do you believe it or not Ken………..gene
kejonn said that Jesus was not the Messiah. ThaT'S NOT THE UNPARDONABLE SIN unless KEJONN NEVER HAS BEEN FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT. Could that be? But not according to what he himself said.In your opinion?! Ha! You sit and watch people go wrong and say nothing! And YOU KNOW they are going wrong BUT to save face you say nothing!
So really your opinion means the same what you said NOTHING!
If this is the sign of the Holy Spirit maybe you need to check your own life. The Holy Spirit would not make people so mean-spirited as you.Quote (kejonn @ Nov. 27 2007,01:59) Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 25 2007,23:53) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 26 2007,15:53) Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 24 2007,12:27) You should wake up before YOU commit the unpardonable sin as kejonn has! I'm SORRY but that is exactly what he has done rejecting the Son of God!
Kenrch…….> and you say your not judging people, give us a break. I haven't seen anyone judge and condemn on this web site like you have, while all the time acting like you really care about them. Please tell Us what's saying that Kejonn has commited the unpardonable sin is then if it isn't judging another. You have proven by your own words that you ARE judging others, no worse you are condemning them. And in my opinion your in no position to judge or condemn anyone on this site or any others as far as that goes. While committing on what some one say's is one thing, casting despersions is quite another.“for He that condemns another condemns (HIMSELF)”.
do you believe it or not Ken………..gene
kejonn said that Jesus was not the Messiah. ThaT'S NOT THE UNPARDONABLE SIN unless KEJONN NEVER HAS BEEN FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT. Could that be? But not according to what he himself said.In your opinion?! Ha! You sit and watch people go wrong and say nothing! And YOU KNOW they are going wrong BUT to save face you say nothing!
So really your opinion means the same what you said NOTHING!
If this is the sign of the Holy Spirit maybe you need to check your own life. The Holy Spirit would not make people so mean-spirited as you.
Some believe kejonn and Tow are the same person. Hum What difference does it make?Yes the word (scripture) judges OR didn't you know that!
2Jo 1:7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist.
Do you believe Jesus IS the Messiah, kejonn?
Kenrch……> the only one i see going wrong is you not anyone else and i as well as others have expressed it to you, it's your opinions that means “NOTHING” but to demonstrate your puffed up pride. No one has called you to be a judge over us have they, it's your own carnel mind doing that and nothing else.
Kejonn…..> i am particulary interested in what He say's regaurding the Lake of Fire ( as being God Himself) and how He say's God (WILL) save all. It's very interesting and i think He has some very sound points. Check it out when you get some time and tell me what you think, maybe we can start a thread on the subject.
thanks brother ………geneQuote (kenrch @ Nov. 26 2007,09:19) Quote If this is the sign of the Holy Spirit maybe you need to check your own life. The Holy Spirit would not make people so mean-spirited as you.
Some believe kejonn and Tow are the same person. Hum What difference does it make?Yes the word (scripture) judges OR didn't you know that!
2Jo 1:7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist.
Do you believe Jesus IS the Messiah, kejonn?
Yes we are the same person. Stu is my third personality. CultBuster was my fourth. I have had many others but the medication is helping me to repress those.2 John 1:7 says nothing about Yeshua being the Jewish Messiah. “Christ” means anointed, it does not have to necessarily mean that Yeshua was the Jewish Messiah who delivers specifically the Jewish people and reunites them. Instead it can be easily concluded that Yeshua was sent to bring the rest of the world to a knowledge of YHWH.
I really do not care if you continue to talk poorly of me or not. You are not my father, not my boss, and not my God. I don't answer to you.
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 26 2007,09:27) Kejonn…..> i am particulary interested in what He say's regaurding the Lake of Fire ( as being God Himself) and how He say's God (WILL) save all. It's very interesting and i think He has some very sound points. Check it out when you get some time and tell me what you think, maybe we can start a thread on the subject.
thanks brother ………gene
I will try to check it out tonight bro.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 27 2007,02:20) Kenrch……> the only one i see going wrong is you not anyone else and i as well as others have expressed it to you, it's your opinions that means “NOTHING” but to demonstrate your puffed up pride. No one has called you to be a judge over us have they, it's your own carnel mind doing that and nothing else.
What's the point? Tic for tack and all that? But if it somehow it eases your conscience then go for it I don't care what you say or do or believe.
Quote (kejonn @ Nov. 27 2007,02:33) Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 26 2007,09:19) Quote If this is the sign of the Holy Spirit maybe you need to check your own life. The Holy Spirit would not make people so mean-spirited as you.
Some believe kejonn and Tow are the same person. Hum What difference does it make?Yes the word (scripture) judges OR didn't you know that!
2Jo 1:7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist.
Do you believe Jesus IS the Messiah, kejonn?
Yes we are the same person. Stu is my third personality. CultBuster was my fourth. I have had many others but the medication is helping me to repress those.2 John 1:7 says nothing about Yeshua being the Jewish Messiah. “Christ” means anointed, it does not have to necessarily mean that Yeshua was the Jewish Messiah who delivers specifically the Jewish people and reunites them. Instead it can be easily concluded that Yeshua was sent to bring the rest of the world to a knowledge of YHWH.
I really do not care if you continue to talk poorly of me or not. You are not my father, not my boss, and not my God. I don't answer to you.
I'll take that as you don't believe that Jesus IS the Messiah. Since you can't answer you do or don't. What do you have to think about it?Quote (kejonn @ Nov. 27 2007,02:33) Quote (kenrch @ Nov. 26 2007,09:19) Quote If this is the sign of the Holy Spirit maybe you need to check your own life. The Holy Spirit would not make people so mean-spirited as you.
Some believe kejonn and Tow are the same person. Hum What difference does it make?Yes the word (scripture) judges OR didn't you know that!
2Jo 1:7 For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not confess the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh. Such a one is the deceiver and the antichrist.
Do you believe Jesus IS the Messiah, kejonn?
Yes we are the same person. Stu is my third personality. CultBuster was my fourth. I have had many others but the medication is helping me to repress those.2 John 1:7 says nothing about Yeshua being the Jewish Messiah. “Christ” means anointed, it does not have to necessarily mean that Yeshua was the Jewish Messiah who delivers specifically the Jewish people and reunites them. Instead it can be easily concluded that Yeshua was sent to bring the rest of the world to a knowledge of YHWH.
I really do not care if you continue to talk poorly of me or not. You are not my father, not my boss, and not my God. I don't answer to you.
kejonn I would like to know for my benefit if you belief in Jesus being our Savior or not. Would you please answer me?Peace and Love Mrs.
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