If the Jews do not believe Jesus is the Christ, is it possible they are correct?

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  • #890407
    Yahweh Sabaoth
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    Faithful and True! <3 O:) * (Y)

    prosperity-with-gods-people

    #890460
    GeneBalthrop
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    Proclaimer……..good post,  as it was then, so it is now brother.

    peace and love to you and yours………gene

    #932091
    Proclaimer
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    When Jesus Saw Moses And Elijah

    A testament to Jesus fulfilling the prophets and the law.

    #944137
    Nick
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    Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those under the Law so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God; because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.

    Rom 3.19

    Christ is the end of the Law for righteousness.

    Gentiles were never under the Law yet folks try to hawk it as essential to salvation.

    #944138
    Nick
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    Sure enough tithing and sabbath keeping are tossed into the requirements.

    The Son of God is Lord of the Sabbath.

    In him we have fulfilled all the requirements of the Law.

    #944139
    Nick
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    Therefore repent and return , so that your sins may be wiped away in order that times of refreshment may come from the presence of the Lord, and that He may send you Jesus, the Christ appointed to you, whom heaven must receive till the period of restoration of all things about which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from ancient times.

    Acts 3.19

    Ananias was in Christ and was sent to Paul to bring him into the kingdom too. Jesus went to Paul and we too can be ambassadors of Christ and the kingdom too if we are baptised into Christ in his name.

     

    #944140
    Nick
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    Therefore let the house of Israel know for certain that God has made him both Lord and Christ-this Jesus whom you crucified..

    Acts 2.36

    #944142
    GeneBalthrop
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    Nick…..ANOTHER AMEN, Brother.  Good post.

    We are no longer under any “law”,  (forced compliance). But we who have repented and been baptized into Christ Jesus,  by the working of the “Christo’s” of God, (anointing spirit of God). “are a new creation created unto good works”.   just as it says,   “For he (God the Father) works in us “BOTH” to Will and do of “his” good pleasure”,

    This is the way I see it Nick,   Scripture says (not me) …..Mica 6:8…..”He has shewed you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you, but  to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God”
    There are ‘Only ” three thing mentioned there, 

    1……..do justly

    2……..love mercy

    3……..walk humbly with your God.

    All the rest was add, I ask people all the time to tell me what, sabbath days did Abraham, Issac and Jacob keep, what church did they attend?
    All that “law” (forced compliance)   was added to them because of thei disobedience .  Those who are being guided by the Anointing Spirit of God, are not under any law, but live by the love of God poured out into their hearts by the “anointing spirit”,  Of God,  and they have. Need of any law or anyone to teach them either. Because the Holy Spirit they have received from God the Father, teaches them all things.

    peace and love to you and yours Nick………gene

    #944143
    Nick
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    Yes Gene,

    The reverse of the coin. The law reveals sin only.

    And we now have the new circumcision- true baptism in the name of Jesus- col2.11

    “ Look. Water. What prevents me from being baptised” Acts 8.36

    #944149
    GeneBalthrop
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    Nick…….Amen brother.

    peace an love to you and yours Nick………..gene

    #944154
    Proclaimer
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    Born of the Spirit

    “That which is born of the flesh is flesh and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit” (John 3:6).

    Only the Spirit of the living God can take dry bones, dead in trespasses and rebellion against God, and make them spiritually alive.

    #944155
    Proclaimer
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    Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those under the Law so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God; because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.

    Rom 3.19

    Christ is the end of the Law for righteousness.

    Gentiles were never under the Law yet folks try to hawk it as essential to salvation.

    Good point. What about the Sabbath?

    #944157
    Nick
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    Jesus Christ is the Lord of the Sabbath.

    #944160
    Nick
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    Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a sabbath day- things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ.

    coll 2.16

    #944161
    Berean
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    1John.5
    [1] Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
    [2] By this we know that we love the children of God,👉 when we love God, and keep 👉his commandments.👈
    [3] For👉 this is the love of God, that 👉we keep his commandments:👈 and his commandments are not grievous.
    [4] For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.👈

    #944177
    Proclaimer
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    Jesus Christ is the Lord of the Sabbath.

    If this absolves us from the Sabbath, then what happens when we consider that Jesus is Lord of all? Are we absolved of all?

    I hear you though Nick because what you say is written. But it is somewhat confusing for Believers. Especially since the Sabbath is a commandment.

    Of course there is the argument that the commandments were not given to the Gentiles but to the Jews. What we were given is the gospel.

    #944178
    GeneBalthrop
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    To all…..Jesus said this (not me). …..“the Sabbath was made “for” man, not man for the Sabbath”.   So it stands to reason if Jesus is lord of the Sabbath, then so are we. We can use the Sabbath as we see fit, if we take  the Sabbath day rest our souls are refreshed, we are blessed , if we don’t,  it’s our lose.   God made it for us,  not us for it. We are lords of the Sabbath, just as Jesus was and is “also”.

    Peace and love to you all and yours………..gene

    #944196
    Berean
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    Gene

    You will never see written in the Bible that man is lord of the Sabbath because Jesus is lord of the Sabbath.
    Only Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath and no wonder God created all things By Him and He alone can give us true rest.

    #944246
    Nick
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    The offer of God is for men to be eternally joined with His Son in his body, in his death and in his resurrection. If we have taken up that opportunity then why do folks try to go back and try to please God by obedience to the Law which the Son has already fulfilled perfectly?

     

    #944247
    Nick
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    Jesus spoke of his commandments too , including

    LOVE ONE ANOTHER AS I HAVE LOVED YOU

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