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- September 17, 2005 at 11:57 pm#8806davidParticipant
Yes, Elijah, you have clearly proven that in some dictionaries, “gad” is pronounced like the english word “god.”
And I have proved that in some dictionaries, “baal” is prounouced exactly like “bail,” and “bale.”
We have both proved quite a bit today, haven't we?
September 18, 2005 at 1:50 am#8812EliyahParticipantDavid, I love YHWH'S true people, and I will admit that the JWs teach MANY more truths of scriptures( they do not teach the pagan immortality of the soul, going to heaven at first death, or being tormented in an ever burning hellfire,e.t.c.) than pagan traditional chr-stianity, but even they too hold pagan idol practices that YHWH condemns.
I'm not judging people's hearts and minds, but we all must judge from unscriptural Idolatry practices and teachings.
September 18, 2005 at 7:14 am#8816davidParticipantThankyou Elijah.
That may be the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me….on this forum.December 15, 2009 at 2:15 am#164347terrariccaParticipanthi all
2Ti 3:14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
2Ti 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
2Ti 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.2Ti 1:13 Hold fast the form of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus.
1Ti 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do.
siring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.
1Ti 1:8 But we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully;
1Ti 1:9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
1Ti 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
1Ti 1:11 According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.
1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;1Ti 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
1Ti 6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
1Ti 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.i have read all quotes from the beginning ,and what i learned was a useless argument on a word the word GOD,theos, if those words were not used by the apostels then there could be a question but if it was used by the apostels ,the argument is a waist of time and does nothing for the glory of christ
or the gospel.December 15, 2009 at 7:39 am#164431bananaParticipantto all
Has any one noticed that BrandonIke has not posted since he ask the question?
I think he got more than his answer, you all should be proud of your selves, especially Nick.Georg
December 15, 2009 at 7:37 pm#164486KangarooJackParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 14 2005,11:17) Hi,
The word “god” itself certainly has issues for me. because the same word is used for the Almighty creator as for a wooden idol perched on a shelf in a shack. The only difference is the capital being used or not. In what way does the word used show the respect and awe we should feel to Him?The word has also been used by some such as trinitarians to muddy the waters and try to show Yeshua is his own Father, or part of his Father.
I wonder how Jn 1.1 would read if the true terms were used?
You misrepresent Nick and you know it. How do you sleep at night? Show where trinitarians say that Jesus was His own Father? This would be a form of Unitarianism. Trinitarians believe in THREE persons but one substance.thinker
December 15, 2009 at 7:40 pm#164488KangarooJackParticipantQuote (Eliyah @ Sep. 18 2005,13:50) David, I love YHWH'S true people, and I will admit that the JWs teach MANY more truths of scriptures( they do not teach the pagan immortality of the soul, going to heaven at first death, or being tormented in an ever burning hellfire,e.t.c.) than pagan traditional chr-stianity, but even they too hold pagan idol practices that YHWH condemns. I'm not judging people's hearts and minds, but we all must judge from unscriptural Idolatry practices and teachings.
Show where YHWH condemns the belief in the immortality of the soul and eternal torment. Just because you loathe it does not mean that YHWH loathes it.thinker
December 15, 2009 at 7:42 pm#164489NickHassanParticipantHi tt,
Is your God a trinity?
Is Jesus the Son of a trinity god and yet somehow a part of it?
Did the trinity become a binity or an incomplete god when Jesus became the son of God?December 15, 2009 at 7:45 pm#164490KangarooJackParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 16 2009,06:42) Hi tt,
Is your God a trinity?
Is Jesus the Son of a trinity god and yet somehow a part of it?
Did the trinity become a binity or an incomplete god when Jesus became the son of God?
This has to do with my question how….?thinker
December 15, 2009 at 7:46 pm#164491Worshipping JesusParticipantQuote (thethinker @ Dec. 15 2009,14:37) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 14 2005,11:17) Hi,
The word “god” itself certainly has issues for me. because the same word is used for the Almighty creator as for a wooden idol perched on a shelf in a shack. The only difference is the capital being used or not. In what way does the word used show the respect and awe we should feel to Him?The word has also been used by some such as trinitarians to muddy the waters and try to show Yeshua is his own Father, or part of his Father.
I wonder how Jn 1.1 would read if the true terms were used?
You misrepresent Nick and you know it. How do you sleep at night? Show where trinitarians say that Jesus was His own Father? This would be a form of Unitarianism. Trinitarians believe in THREE persons but one substance.thinker
JackIt is actually closer to Modalism!
WJ
December 15, 2009 at 8:05 pm#164500terrariccaParticipanthi to
at the least you all agree your conversation as nothing to do with the scriptures,and this is OK with me,
Glory to God and his SON ,amenDecember 15, 2009 at 8:07 pm#164501KangarooJackParticipantQuote (terraricca @ Dec. 16 2009,07:05) hi to
at the least you all agree your conversation as nothing to do with the scriptures,and this is OK with me,
Glory to God and his SON ,amen
AMEN! Give glory to God AND his Son. You speak the truth!thinker
December 15, 2009 at 8:10 pm#164503NickHassanParticipantHi TT,
Certainly give glory to God and His Son and all the prophets too.
So how does trinity fit with this?December 15, 2009 at 8:20 pm#164505KangarooJackParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 16 2009,07:10) Hi TT,
Certainly give glory to God and His Son and all the prophets too.
So how does trinity fit with this?
Where does the scripture command to give glory to the prophets? Name a prophet who has a name that is “above every name.” Name just one prophet.Where does it say that God committed ALL judgment to a prophet so that all men may honor a prophet “even as” they honor the Father?
thinker
December 15, 2009 at 8:23 pm#164506NickHassanParticipantHi TT,
Those who looked after the vineyard should have honoured the prophets but they killed them.
Likewise they killed even the Son of God yet all were anointed of God.
The moon reflects the glory of the Sun.[1Cor15]December 15, 2009 at 8:28 pm#164509KangarooJackParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Dec. 16 2009,07:23) Hi TT,
Those who looked after the vineyard should have honoured the prophets but they killed them.
Likewise they killed even the Son of God yet all were anointed of God.
The moon reflects the glory of the Sun.[1Cor15]
You did not answer my questions. So I will drop it because you have proven yourself untrustworthy in this area.thinker
December 15, 2009 at 8:35 pm#164512NickHassanParticipantHi TT,
You finding us untrustworthy is not unexpected.
But you should abide in the Word.Jesus, the son OF MAN and prophet has been given all authority by his God.
His God should be your God[Jn20.17]December 15, 2009 at 10:00 pm#164530terrariccaParticipanthi nick
Joh 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.are you making this up as you go type thing
Jesus, the son OF MAN and prophet has been given all authority by his God.
His God should be your God[Jn20.17]
this is your comment,to say the least you are very inventive,this is again the old satan aproach just as in the garden of eden offering a lie to the ones who lessen,
who says authority says responsability = fruits= Godly or devil like,
the aposteles have show theyrs is there any one els ,i would like to meet him,?what ever they did they did for nthe glory of God and Christ kingdom at no point in time they have look to themself to recieve any honeur for what they had done with the word of God,
at all time the have look at the interest of the lord sheep,bless them all.December 15, 2009 at 10:13 pm#164540NickHassanParticipantHi t,
The SON OF MAN has suffered all the tempations men suffer.
He is given all authority by God including that of judge at the final judgementDecember 16, 2009 at 5:58 am#164649GeneBalthropParticipantterreicca……….And “Judgment shall be (given) to the Saints of the Most High”. we are called along side Jesus with the same responsibility as he has , we are called a royal diadem, a kingdom of Priests, we are called Heirs and JOINT heirs with Christ. We are to reign (WITH) Christ for a thousand Years. We are of the same family as He is, we are the children of GOD as Jesus is also. The authority given to Jesus he has given to us also so we might share in the glory given him.
Dan 7:18…> But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom forever even forever and ever.
Dan 7:22 Until the Ancient of days came, and Judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
peace and love to you and yours…………..gene
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