I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi Miia,

    Wikipedia tells it all.

    #820317
     miia 
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    Hmm, Wikipedia doesn’t say much except he is Presbyterian, and “Trump has had associations with a number of Christian spiritual leaders, including Florida pastor Paula White, who has been called his “closest spiritual confidant.”  And “in 2016, he released a list of his religious advisers, including James Dobson, Jerry Falwell Jr., Ralph Reed.”

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi Miia,

    That says it all.

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     Ed J 
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    @mia

    Are you not the person who mocked the idea of Trump becoming the president before the election?

    If so, then obviously you were wrong and you might need to revaluate things a bit.

    If not, then ignore this post.

    Hi T8,

    Yep, that was her

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    Ed J

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     Ed J 
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    Donald Trump… what denomination of Christianity is he?

    Hi Miia,

    Presbyterian, same as Kangaroo Jack. But
    I believe Trump’s beliefs differ from Jack’s.

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    Ed J

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     Ed J 
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    Hi Miia,

    Wikipedia tells it all.

    Hi Nick,

    Don’t trust ‘almighty wikipedia’ – he lies (Rom.3:4)

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    Ed J

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     Ed J 
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    Hi Nick, I think it does matter because whatever he believes he could push to happen

    Hi Miia,

    What he is pushing is: God’s will
    Too bad you cannot see this

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     t8 
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    YHWH is the God of Israel. Some people think he is not the God of Israel including Muslims. It seems the whole world has chosen to side one way or the other. The world will gather against her for sure. Interesting times.

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     t8 
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    I don’t think Jacinda will get a second term, but neither do I think she can do too much damage in the time she has. While she has damaged trans-tasman relations and the Kiwi dollar has sunk, these can recover quickly if the Nats get back in. In short I am not worried for NZ. I had more concern for the US, but against all odds, Trump got in. I believe he has a mission and this partly explains all the hatred and lies toward him and his supporters. It seems the enemy has overplayed his hand again.

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     Ed J 
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    Amen T8

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     t8 
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    Wikipedia is interesting. While I use it a lot, I do bear in mind that many editors are Atheist.

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi T8,

    What is it about atheism?

    False beliefs are far more dangerous.

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     t8 
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    Atheism is a false belief and one of the most dangerous.

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     miia 
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    Hi.

    The capital of Israel is Jerusalem but Jerusalem is now heavenly according to scripture (I shouldn’t have to list all the scriptures of the New Testament if you know the bible). 

    The flesh verses the spiritual?

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     miia 
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    Regarding Jacinda Arden… She and labor (and aunty Helen!), care more about the poor of New Zealand… Christ’s will is towards the poor.

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     miia 
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    This verse regarding Jerusalem being a burdensome stone is old testament, hence before Christ came. That’s not to say something big won’t happen in Israel…..

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    Hi Miia,

    Certainly you don’t think the Jerusalem that is from above
    is a burdensome stone for all people; do you?

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    Ed J

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     NickHassan 
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    Hi Miia,

    Politics is of the world.

    Let the dead bury the dead.

     

    My kingdom is within you.

     

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     miia 
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    Very true Nick.

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     miia 
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    This bible study sums it up well (link to follow because I’m on mobile)..

    Because of Abraham faith. The question is what nation did God promised Abraham, really?

    Is it nation of Israel in the Middle East or Covenant Israel through Abraham’s seed? Our authority is Scripture, so we go there for answer :

    Heb 11:8-10

    • By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went.
    • By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise:
    • For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God.

    But Abraham died without actually receive a nation. But Abraham knew what he was looking for:

    Heb 11:13-18

    • These all died in faithnot having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, andconfessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth.
    • For they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country.
    • And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned.
    • But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city.
    • By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,
    • Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:

    This is a great nation where Abraham’s seed shall be called. Not physical city. Not physical country. Not physical nation.

    Gal 4:25-28

    • For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.
    • But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
    • For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband.
    • Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

    Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all, is HOLY NATION that Abraham was talking about! Through Abraham’s seed, Jesus Christ, everyone who are saved, are the children of promise and will receive the Holy Nation. Aren’t we already in Holy Nation in Christ?

    1Pe 2:4-10

    • To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
    • Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
    • Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
    • Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
    • And stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
    • But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
    • Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy

     

     

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