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Did the writers of the New Testament say they wrote them in Hebrew? They were just written as letters to different communities and not as formal scripture by the writers. So again they would be written to be read by the common people in the common dialect and not in formal Hebrew surely.Nick, You have constantly accused me from since 3 days after I came to the forum, however, I have not condemned anyone, I have only posted what the scriptures say themselves.
When i first posted the Baal Gad topic, you did not act so hostile toward me, then after 2 or 3 days you seemed to change toward me since I specified Yahweh and Yahshua's Name in preference for a pagan title.
However, I have no contempt nor condemnation for people on the forum, and if you feel so, then that was not my intention( As I have said this twice now), but if you still do, then it is the scriptures themselves that is speaking to you.
You seem to get angry at me because you have not been able to disprove my earlier posts in preference of the true Father and Son's names over pagan titles.
Ok, if you feel that way, then I Appologize, and you can go back to all my posts and do….
Then, go back to those posts and do… what is written at the bottom of your pages?
Test( Prove) all things. Hold fast to what is good( 1 Thess.5:21) , if not, then go back and try to dis-prove them ?
Otherwise, when you accuse me, then I must be doing something right, or you will not continue to be so hostile toward me?
And when you do, I just can't help but to Laugh, Laugh, Laugh and rejoice, HalleluYAH!!
“””I have also taken a great deal of pains to obtain the learning of the Greeks, and understanding the elements of the Greek language although I have so long accustomed myself to speak our own language, that I cannot pronounce Greek with sufficient exactness: for our nation does not encourage those that learn the languages of many nations” (Antiquities, 20:11:2).
The above is his own words, and I'm not going to argue over your ignorance of his words, go look them up yourself, for I don't expect you to merely believe me, but evidently you do not want to do that either.
So, enough is enough.
Hi eliyah,
Thank you.But was he specifically saying he spoke Hebrew? Our own language does not say “Hebrew”. It does say greek was not his native tongue but it could have been Aramaic.Quote (Eliyah @ Oct. 10 2005,04:30) Nick, You have constantly accused me from since 3 days after I came to the forum, however, I have not condemned anyone, I have only posted what the scriptures say themselves. When i first posted the Baal Gad topic, you did not act so hostile toward me, then after 2 or 3 days you seemed to change toward me since I specified Yahweh and Yahshua's Name in preference for a pagan title.
However, I have no contempt nor condemnation for people on the forum, and if you feel so, then that was not my intention( As I have said this twice now), but if you still do, then it is the scriptures themselves that is speaking to you.
You seem to get angry at me because you have not been able to disprove my earlier posts in preference of the true Father and Son's names over pagan titles.
Ok, if you feel that way, then I Appologize, and you can go back to all my posts and do….
Then, go back to those posts and do… what is written at the bottom of your pages?
Test( Prove) all things. Hold fast to what is good( 1 Thess.5:21) , if not, then go back and try to dis-prove them ?
Otherwise, when you accuse me, then I must be doing something right, or you will not continue to be so hostile toward me?
And when you do, I just can't help but to Laugh, Laugh, Laugh and rejoice, HalleluYAH!!
Hi eliyah,
I am not angry with you. Why should I be? I just don't like to see you throwing away your credibility through your embarrassing manners.Nick,
What language do you think he spoke, English ?
I'm not going to look all this up for you, you do it yourself, I have done this before concerning the Baal Gad topic when BrandonIke wanted me to do so, and I did it, however, if people are not interested enough to look it out for themselves, then, they are just not really interested in doing so.
Quote I am not angry with you. Why should I be? I just don't like to see you throwing away your credibility through your embarrassing manners. Nick, I'm tired of Apologizing for something that I'm not doing, and if you angry accuse me anymore, then it will be you who is destroying your credibility and manners.
Quote (Eliyah @ Oct. 10 2005,04:54) Nick, What language do you think he spoke, English ?
I'm not going to look all this up for you, you do it yourself, I have done this before concerning the Baal Gad topic when BrandonIke wanted me to do so, and I did it, however, if people are not interested enough to look it out for themselves, then, they are just not really interested in doing so.
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According to my readings he wrote in Aramaic[see Flavius Josephus home Page]Nick, I already posted this earlier, Aramaic is a sister similar language of Hebrew, and doesn't it strike people a little strange, that People Like Josephus, and Philo the Jew who lived around this same time could hardly even speak Greek, let alone write in that language, and then the New Testament writings seem to show up written in Greek, and not Hebrew-Aramaic?
This doesn't seem to send up red flags in traditional christianity of the common lay people( Although it does in teaching Seminars) minds that they are reading a syncretized pagan Jesuit priests phylosophy written in Greek of a Greek-Latin Messiah, instead of a Jewish Hebrew Messiah.
Well, the true Messiah was not a Greek-Latin Jesuit priest, which was popularized by the early catholics, but He was a Jewish Hebrew Messiah with a Hebrew Name, and if the truth about todays false Jesuit christ seems to offend people, then they better start searching for the true Hebrew Messiah instead of following the Catholics and their Jesuit priest society because that is where the name je'sus really started, is from the Jesuits.
Hi eliyah,
So are you saying Aramaic is only slightly different from Hebrew? Someone speaking one could understand someone speaking the other? Can anyone else confirm this or were they rather more diverse?Hi,
According to my reading Aramaic is a totally separate language from Hebrew. It is not a Hebrew dialect being a language acquired during the Diaspora, from the Assyrians. It was not derived from Hebrew. It is similar to Hebrew, very similar, but still entirely distinct as a language.
So it is not possible to say you can in scripture read 'Hebrew' for 'Aramaic' or vice versa. Some of the OT was written in Aramaic though most by far was in Hebrew.
So to say one is a dialect of the other is not correct and muddies the water.Nick,
I have already shown“” The predominant language was Hebrew( Luke 23:38; John 5:2; John 19:13-20; Acts 21:40; Acts 22:2; Acts 26:14; Rev.9:11; Rev.16:16), however, Aramaic is like a sister language of Hebrew.
Hebrew was the predominant language, as the scriptures plainly show, if you don't want to accept the scriptures themselves, then that is your problem, however, as of now I'm interested in the syncrenization of pagan phylosophy of doctrines that were combined with the writings of the N.T. and influenced by early teachers and translators.
Hi,
Lk 23.38
“Now there was also an inscription above him 'This is the King of the Jews'”
Jn 5.2
” which is in Hebrew'Bethesda'..”
Jn 19.13
“..but in Hebrew'Gabbatha'..”
Acts 22.2
“And when they heard that he was addressing them in the Hebrew dialect, they became even more quiet..”
Acts 26.14
” I heard a voice saying to me in the Hebrew dialect 'Saul, Saul,..' “
Rev 9.11
“..His name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in the greek he has the name Apollyon”
Rev 16.16
” And they gathered them together to a place which in Hebrew is called 'Harmagedon'”These are the scriptures you offer as evidence that Hebrew was the predominant language?
They show, in fact, that these scriptures were not written in Hebrew and that Hebrew was a secondary language.
Aramaic is not Hebrew though it serves your purposes to try to prove so.Hi eliyah,
So scripture allows that men can have different names in different languages[Rev 9.11]but you are certain our Father God insists only one name be used for Himself, despite the fact that it is a descriptive one?Nick,
The scriptures show they spoke in their native Hebrew language, and as I said before, if you do not want to accept their own words, then that is your problem, and I'm not going to argue and quibble over your un-belief or acceptance of scriptures.
Hi eliyah,
No it is not my problem if you use scripture to try and demonstrate something, and then cannot do so, is it?Yea Nick, its your problem if you choose to not accept those scriptures, and as I said, I'm not going to argue over your un-belief.
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