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Hi,
Grace is found walking on straight paths, in peaceful ways.Heb12
12Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;13And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.
14Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:
15Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;
Hi Mandy.
Don't be too hard on yourself. We all have times when we feel that we've said things we shouldn't have,
myself being one of the worst of them. We're human, of the 'flesh', God has graciously treated us, not seeing our sins any more. He has justified all mankind through His Son, who died in payment for our sins, and is risen again, sitting at His right side. I realise at times we feel really down, ashamed of ourselves for what we have done, but remember, “all is of God”, He is in complete control, and “His achievment are we” (Eph.2:10), and also “13 for it is God Who is operating in you to will as well as to work for the sake of His delight.”
So don't dispare when you feel down, it is God working in you to accomplish His will.God Bless, Jerry.
Hi all
Grace coming from God is his love for his creation, and the willingness to forgive us for all of our sins not that we deserve any of it.
Jesus was full of grace, full of love toward us, to the point were he was willing to die for us, so that we may live.
We are to grow in grace, love and forgiveness, and knowledge, understanding.Georg
Hi Georg,
Ezekiel 18
30″Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, each according to his conduct,” declares the Lord GOD. “Repent and turn away from all your transgressions, so that iniquity may not become a stumbling block to you.31″Cast away from you all your transgressions which you have committed and make yourselves a new heart and a new spirit! For why will you die, O house of Israel?
For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone who dies,” declares the Lord GOD. “Therefore, repent and live.”
Quote (Tiffany @ Dec. 18 2008,21:47) Hi all Grace coming from God is his love for his creation, and the willingness to forgive us for all of our sins not that we deserve any of it.
Jesus was full of grace, full of love toward us, to the point were he was willing to die for us, so that we may live.
We are to grow in grace, love and forgiveness, and knowledge, understanding.Georg
Yes ……….. God loves his creation ………..However much it falls, he is faithful and full of mercy ………..
Grace is very much misunderstood. It is unconditional, meaning there is nothing else that need be done. It is not something that requires anything else to effect it, thus to think that Grace is only applied if we “repent, ask forgiveness, or confess our sins, etc.” We are now “justified” by the blood of Christ. See 2Cor.5:18-19 …18 Yet all is of God, Who conciliates us to Himself through Christ, and is giving us the dispensation of the conciliation,
19 how that God was in Christ, conciliating the world to Himself, not reckoning their offenses to them, and placing in us the word of the conciliation.God sees our sins no more, He has done it all, this is “Grace”, freely given. Nothing need be done to “apply” this Grace to ourselves. It would be an insult to God and His Christ, who paid the ultimate price for our “justification”, to assume it was only partially done, and that our 'works' were needed to complete this free gift. “All is of God”.
Eph.2:10. … For “His achievement are we”, being created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God makes ready beforehand, that we should be walking in them.
Blessings.
Quote (chosenone @ Dec. 25 2008,14:45) Grace is very much misunderstood. It is unconditional, meaning there is nothing else that need be done. It is not something that requires anything else to effect it, thus to think that Grace is only applied if we “repent, ask forgiveness, or confess our sins, etc.” We are now “justified” by the blood of Christ. See 2Cor.5:18-19 …18 Yet all is of God, Who conciliates us to Himself through Christ, and is giving us the dispensation of the conciliation,
19 how that God was in Christ, conciliating the world to Himself, not reckoning their offenses to them, and placing in us the word of the conciliation.God sees our sins no more, He has done it all, this is “Grace”, freely given. Nothing need be done to “apply” this Grace to ourselves. It would be an insult to God and His Christ, who paid the ultimate price for our “justification”, to assume it was only partially done, and that our 'works' were needed to complete this free gift. “All is of God”.
Eph.2:10. … For “His achievement are we”, being created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God makes ready beforehand, that we should be walking in them.
Blessings.
No, CO:What you are teaching here is not true. The condition for our salvation is that we believe what he has done for us through His Son and His Christ with a repentant heart.
What you are teaching is “cheap” grace. While it is true, that our salvation is not merited because we did not earn it through perfect obedience through God's Word. Jesus did not pay the judgment that was against us so that we could continue in our sins.
Quote Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also [in the likeness] of [his] resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with [him], that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Rom 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
Rom 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
Rom 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
Rom 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Rom 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
Rom 6:13 Neither yield ye your members [as] instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members [as] instruments of righteousness unto God.
Rom 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Rom 6:15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid.
Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
Rom 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.
Rom 6:18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Rom 6:19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness.
Rom 6:20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.
Rom 6:21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things [is] death.
Rom 6:22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.
Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin [is] death; but the gift of God [is] eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Hi 942767.
I believe you have misunderstood the meaning of these scriptures you quote. The message is summed up in the last two scriptures you quoted, Ro.6:22-23. …22 Yet, now, being freed from Sin, yet enslaved to God, you have your fruit for holiness. Now the consummation is life eonian.
23 For the ration of Sin is death, yet the gracious gift of God is life eonian, in Christ Jesus, our Lord.Blessings.
To All……what is important is that we understand what (GRACE) IS…….(GOD'S INFLUENCING ON THE HEART)
YOU ARE SAVED BY GRACE AND THAT NOT OF YOURSELF, IT IS A GIFT FROM GOD.
Love and peace to you all……………..gene
GB,
So we know that at the end of the journey but you would not discourage folk from starting to walk following Jesus in the vain hope that grace will give them an armchair ride would you?Nick…..No i would never do that and where have i ever said its a armchair ride, those are your words Nick not mine, in fact it just the opposite a very intense ride. Judgment begins at the house of God and if we are (Scarcely) saved , what about the ungodly how hard is it going to be for them. No Nick there is not easy rides for no one , It wasn't even for Jesus himself a easy ride.
For ever sin there is a JUst recompense right, and we are all sinners , so it not any easy or as you say an armchair ride , i never said that nor have i intended to, But i will also say when we fail we have an advocate with the Father , who will help us when we do fail, and God is Faithful to forgive us and (CLEANS) us from (ALL) SIN. So while i am not saying it a “armchair” ride , i also will not discourage some one when the fail either.love and peace to you and yours……………….gene
GB,
So where does the ride of the ungodly rebels finish?Rev21
7He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.8But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Quote (chosenone @ Dec. 25 2008,15:19) Hi 942767.
I believe you have misunderstood the meaning of these scriptures you quote. The message is summed up in the last two scriptures you quoted, Ro.6:22-23. …22 Yet, now, being freed from Sin, yet enslaved to God, you have your fruit for holiness. Now the consummation is life eonian.
23 For the ration of Sin is death, yet the gracious gift of God is life eonian, in Christ Jesus, our Lord.Blessings.
Hi CO:Quote Gal 2:17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, [is] therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid. My desire is God's very best for you and your family.
Hi CO:
I know in the following scripture the Apostle Peter is speaking specifically to the Jews who had taken part in crucifying Jesus and had realized what they had done and believed, but all of us have taken part in crucifying Jesus because all of us have sinned. The scriptures state:
Quote Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. Act 2:37 Now when they heard [this], they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men [and] brethren, what shall we do?
Act 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Notice the Apostle Peter told them what they should do when they asked him after they had believed, and he told them to “Repent and be baptized for the remission of their sins, and they would receive the promise of Holy Ghost”.
Although, as I have stated, he was preaching to the Jews who had crucified Jesus, this promise of the Holy Ghost is the promise to every one who believes God's testimony regarding His Son and His Christ, and who repents and is baptized in water signifying his union with Jesus in his death, burial and resurrection.
The scripture regarding the promise of Holy Ghost states:
Quote Act 2:39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God shall call. The scripture states that the promise is “(TO) AS MANY AS THE LORD OUR GOD SHALL CALL”.
Nick…….remember you the FEAR preacher Her not me. All wills must die to now or later but all Wills will die and purged by intense Judgments. But because you don't understand what death He is talking about are you not yet CARNAL. There is no point discussing this with you.
peace……………….gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 26 2008,06:27) Nick…..No i would never do that and where have i ever said its a armchair ride, those are your words Nick not mine, in fact it just the opposite a very intense ride. Judgment begins at the house of God and if we are (Scarcely) saved , what about the ungodly how hard is it going to be for them. No Nick there is not easy rides for no one , It wasn't even for Jesus himself a easy ride.
For ever sin there is a JUst recompense right, and we are all sinners , so it not any easy or as you say an armchair ride , i never said that nor have i intended to, But i will also say when we fail we have an advocate with the Father , who will help us when we do fail, and God is Faithful to forgive us and (CLEANS) us from (ALL) SIN. So while i am not saying it a “armchair” ride , i also will not discourage some one when the fail either.love and peace to you and yours……………….gene
Good Gene when they fail encourage them to repent and keep on obeying the Lord, and as often as they fail to keep getting up trying again. I have made many mistakes, and I have found the Lord to be extremely merciful.But don't encourage them to stay in the sins because ultimately every one will be saved hobeit through extreme judgments. This is just not what the scriptures teach.
Take a look at this scripture.
Mat 10:15 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
Why would Jesus say that if there was no chance for them to repent?
Grace is the undeserved forgiveness of our sins for Jesus sake, not for ours, and it can not be earned, that is why it is a gift from God.Georg
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