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DK….good is good, evil is evil, it doesn't matter how you want to frame it, if you (moral) evil so what it still evil isn't it. If i say (Morally) good its still good, right?
peace …..gene
I understand what you are saying…but the fact of the matter is..the bible says God does not try us with [moral] evil…and that [moral] evil can not come from him because he is pure and ultimately is love…and HE NEVER took or takes responsibility for the type of evil that originated with the Devil…because he is pure and is not capable of it
This is what you are not understanding from my view..you say that my life will be so much easier when i realize that God is in complete control of it…and that since God is in control I can never turn away from him
I say I have already come to that conclusion…the difference is… is that at anytime I know I can willfully turn from God…but because I choose to let him lead me..that will never happen…
There is not much difference in what we are saying..honestly
Evil is not a “thing” – like a rock or electricity. You can't have a jar of evil! Rather, evil is something that occurs, like running. Evil has no existence of its own – it is really a lack in a good thing. For example, holes are real but they only exist in something else. We call the absence of dirt a hole – but it cannot be separated from the dirt. So when God created, it is true that all that existed was good. One of the good things that God made was creatures who had the freedom to choose good. In order to have a real choice, God had to allow there to be something besides good to choose. So God allowed these free angels and humans to choose good or non-good (evil). When a bad relationship exists between two good things we call that evil, but it does not become a “thing” that required God to create it.
If I were to ask the average person “does cold exist?” – his/her answer would likely be yes. However, this is incorrect. Cold does not exist. Cold is the absence of heat. Similarly, darkness does not exist. Darkness is the absence of light. Similarly, evil is the absence of good, or better, evil is the absence of God. God did not have to create evil, but rather only allow for the absence of good.
DK……if you check it out you will find the Word expressed in Genesis for good and evil, is functional and dysfunctional , And God saw that it was Functional is the more truer word according Benners book on the mechanical translation of genesis. Any way in my opinion God is building value in us through all the good and evil experiences we go through i think everyone is learning this lesson rather they realize it or not at this time.
peace………..gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 21 2008,07:42) DK……if you check it out you will find the Word expressed in Genesis for good and evil, is functional and dysfunctional , And God saw that it was Functional is the more truer word according Benners book on the mechanical translation of genesis. Any way in my opinion God is building value in us through all the good and evil experiences we go through i think everyone is learning this lesson rather they realize it or not at this time. peace………..gene
Functional…yes…in that it can occur…not that it was created…[evil that is]…the bible is clear brother…moral, sinful, fleshly evil…did not originate with GOD…that originated with the enemy…GOD can neither be tried with it nor does he try us with it…[B]
