Gog Magog

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  • #327187
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,02:25)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,02:05)
    EDJ.

    Combining pantecost and resurrection is the scribes and pharisees teachings.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    You do know bearing false witness is a sin; don't you?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDj.

    Pantecost=filled with the Holy spirit.
    Resurrection=quickening of the flesh.

    Beware of the scribes and pharisees,causing confusion amongst the flock.
    Beware of the scribes and pharisees,using swelling words to confuse the sheep.

    wakeup.

    #327200
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,02:38)
    EDj.

    Pantecost=filled with the Holy spirit.
    Resurrection=quickening of the flesh.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    We agree!  YEA!!!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #327206
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,03:49)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,02:38)
    EDj.

    Pantecost=filled with the Holy spirit.
    Resurrection=quickening of the flesh.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    We agree!  YEA!!!

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Edj.

    I am surprised and glad.

    wakeup.

    #327212
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    Putting fulfilled “Spiritual Prophecy” off into
    the 'physical future' is where I disagree with you.
    And since it is fruitless to discuss the physical future,
    I suggest that we reason together on fulfilled Prophecy.

    You say (in essence):
    Salvation is only attained at the resurrection.

    But this what “The Word” says:
    “behold, now is the day of salvation”  (2 Cor 6:2)
    “Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
     When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.”  (Heb 3:8-9)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #327226
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,04:21)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Putting fulfilled “Spiritual Prophecy” off into
    the 'physical future' is where I disagree with you.
    And since it is fruitless to discuss the physical future,
    I suggest that we reason together on fulfilled Prophecy.

    You say (in essence):
    Salvation is only attained at the resurrection.

    But this what “The Word” says:
    “behold, now is the day of salvation”  (2 Cor 6:2)
    “Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
     When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.”  (Heb 3:8-9)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    I did not say that salvation is attained at the resurrection.

    The resurrection is the reward.
    Salvation leads to the resurrection,the final reward.
    One needs to seek; to attain salvation,and the reward is the resurrection.

    wakeup.

    #327232
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    So you say that salvation is not being “Born Again”?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #327251
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,06:35)
    Hi Wakeup,

    So you say that salvation is not being “Born Again”?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EDJ.

    Salvation is not the resurrection(born again),but the
    the way to being born in spirit at the coming.

    born again. (a).
    born again. (b).

    1.(a) When one has received the Lord, and have a
    renewal of the mind. The mind of christ,but still
    flesh. A true believer,can see the kingdom,in the
    picture of their mind.

    2.(b) Born again physically,at the resurrection,in a new
    body,like the angels,and can enter into the
    kingdom of God.This is the final reward.

    wakeup.

    #327256
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Wakeup,

    Then what (say you) is salvation?
    If not being saved from death?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #327264
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,11:38)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Then what (say you) is salvation?
    If not being saved from death?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    YES,but the reward is coming. rev22:12. I come quickly and my reward is with me.

    So dont claim the reward before his coming.
    The second coming that is.

    wakeup.

    #327273
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,23:22)
    Hi Mike, when discussing “The Bible” with me you should quote “The Bible”, not corrupted translations that deceive.


    Agreed.  That's why I don't generally quote the KJV.  :)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,23:22)
    2 Thess 2:1-3
    Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

    2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    Now please show me what you want me to address here; OK?


    Seriously?  ???  Ed, the second coming of our Lord Jesus Christ will not happen until…………………………..

    And Paul wrote these words way after Pentecost.  That means that AFTER Pentecost, the second coming of our Lord Jesus Christ had not yet happened.

    I really have neither the time nor the patience for your nonsense, Ed.  Read the post I made for Pierre today in that other thread. (Page 30, 5th post)

    #327279
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 10 2013,12:37)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,23:22)
    Hi Mike, when discussing “The Bible” with me you should quote “The Bible”, not corrupted translations that deceive.


    Agreed.  That's why I don't generally quote the KJV.  :)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,23:22)
    2 Thess 2:1-3
    Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

    2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

    3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

    Now please show me what you want me to address here; OK?


    Seriously?  ???  Ed, the second coming of our Lord Jesus Christ will not happen until…………………………..

    And Paul wrote these words way after Pentecost.  That means that AFTER Pentecost, the second coming of our Lord Jesus Christ had not yet happened.

    I really have neither the time nor the patience for your nonsense, Ed.  Read the post I made for Pierre today in that other thread.  (Page 30, 5th post)


    Mike B.

    I believe you never had been through the prophesies before,but yet you can understand.

    Wakeup.

    #327286
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,12:04)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,11:38)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Then what (say you) is salvation?
    If not being saved from death?

    God bless
    Ed J


    EdJ.

    YES,but the reward is coming. rev22:12. I come quickly and my reward is with me.

    So dont claim the reward before his coming.
    The second coming that is.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Jesus gives us the reward of the HolySpirit when
    he comes to those looking for him a second time.    (ref. John 14:23)
    (a personal “Pentecost” is available to all believers)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #327292
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,13:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,12:04)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,11:38)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Then what (say you) is salvation?
    If not being saved from death?

    God bless
    Ed J


    EdJ.

    YES,but the reward is coming. rev22:12. I come quickly and my reward is with me.

    So dont claim the reward before his coming.
    The second coming that is.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Jesus gives us the reward of the HolySpirit when
    he comes to those looking for him a second time.    (ref. John 14:23)
    (a personal “Pentecost” is available to all believers)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Hello brother;have you been on the bottle again?

    I come quickly,AND MY REWARD IS WITH ME.
    THE RWARD IS NOT THE BABTISING WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, BUT THE QUICKENING OF THE FLESH.

    YOU WILL GROW WINGS ED.Look in the mirror,and see if you have wings, then you are qickened

    The babtising with the Holy spirit can happen any day;every day,one is babtised with the Holy spirit.
    I was again the other night,visited for a few seconds.

    wakeup.

    #327297
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,13:41)
    EdJ.

    YOU WILL GROW WINGS ED.Look in the mirror,and see if you have wings, then you are qickened

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    “Though ye have lien among the pots, yet shall ye be as the wings of a dove covered with silver, and
     her feathers with yellow gold. When the Almighty scattered kings in it, it was white as snow in Salmon.

     The hill of God is as the hill of Bashan; an high hill as the hill of Bashan. Why leap ye, ye high hills?
     this is the hill which God desireth to dwell in; yea, the LORD will dwell in it for ever.” (Psalm 68:13-16)

    “They that trust in the LORD shall be as mount Zion, which cannot be removed, but abideth for ever.” (Psalms 125:1)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #327306
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,14:13)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,13:41)
    EdJ.

    YOU WILL GROW WINGS ED.Look in the mirror,and see if you have wings, then you are qickened

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    “Though ye have lien among the pots, yet shall ye be as the wings of a dove covered with silver, and
     her feathers with yellow gold. When the Almighty scattered kings in it, it was white as snow in Salmon.

     The hill of God is as the hill of Bashan; an high hill as the hill of Bashan. Why leap ye, ye high hills?
     this is the hill which God desireth to dwell in; yea, the LORD will dwell in it for ever.” (Psalm 68:13-16)

    “They that trust in the LORD shall be as mount Zion, which cannot be removed, but abideth for ever.” (Psalms 125:1)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Amen.

    wakeup.

    #327315
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,15:17)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,14:13)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,13:41)
    EdJ.

    YOU WILL GROW WINGS ED.Look in the mirror,and see if you have wings, then you are qickened

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    “Though ye have lien among the pots, yet shall ye be as the wings of a dove covered with silver, and
     her feathers with yellow gold. When the Almighty scattered kings in it, it was white as snow in Salmon.

     The hill of God is as the hill of Bashan; an high hill as the hill of Bashan. Why leap ye, ye high hills?
     this is the hill which God desireth to dwell in; yea, the LORD will dwell in it for ever.” (Psalm 68:13-16)

    “They that trust in the LORD shall be as mount Zion, which cannot be removed, but abideth for ever.” (Psalms 125:1)

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    Amen.

    wakeup.


    The box together, to beautify the place of my sanctuary; and I will make the place of my feet glorious.
     The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that des-
      pised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet; and they shall call thee,
     The [Holy City] of the LORD, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.
     (Isaiah 60:13-14)

    #327317
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (2besee @ Jan. 06 2013,19:59)
    Gog and Magog is the whole world.


    Do you live in Gog or Magog?

    #327318
    Devolution
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ Jan. 10 2013,17:09)

    Quote (2besee @ Jan. 06 2013,19:59)
    Gog and Magog is the whole world.


    Do you live in Gog or Magog?


    Hi T8,

    Now why didn't I think of that?

    GREAT question…

    #327326
    terraricca
    Participant

    T8

    the answer to your question is NO,

    Rev 20:7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison
    Rev 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.

    first I will bring to your attention that “GOG AND MAGOG ” does not yet exist because this happen after the 1000 years of Christ reign and after the first resurrection ,
    secondly all those nations that are been deceived are from the second resurrection and so are under the judgment of Christ .

    #327344
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,13:12)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 10 2013,12:04)

    Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 10 2013,11:38)
    Hi Wakeup,

    Then what (say you) is salvation?
    If not being saved from death?

    God bless
    Ed J


    EdJ.

    YES,but the reward is coming. rev22:12. I come quickly and my reward is with me.

    So dont claim the reward before his coming.
    The second coming that is.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    Jesus gives us the reward of the HolySpirit when
    he comes to those looking for him a second time.    (ref. John 14:23)
    (a personal “Pentecost” is available to all believers)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    EdJ.

    You can refuse to see if you want;its your choice.
    Receiving the Holy spirit is not the reward.
    The Holy spirit is the helper and comforter.
    To help us to get to our destiny.

    The reward is the resurrection in a glorified body.NOT THE HOLY SPIRIT.

    wakeup.

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