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Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,02:08) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,02:07) Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,23:16) Ed I'm not interested in your numerology either, whatever name you give it, it is just numerology in disguise…
Hi Devolution,Sorry, but is was YHVH who had “Jesus” encoded as “Beauty”; NOT ME!
10: And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people.
11: And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the LORD.
12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.
13 And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty
pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD. (Zech.11:10-13) (see Matthew 27:3-10)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Do you not agree that Zech.11:10-13 is about Jesus?
Agree or disagree?Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 06 2013,15:52) 
anyone that read's the bible Revelation can understand this ,
Rev 20:7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison
Rev 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.Rev 20:11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them.
Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books.
Rev 20:13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.
Terra.Yes Terra,but you believe that Gog and magog will be at the second coming. true or false?
wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2013,08:54) Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,20:43) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2013,18:53) Rom.8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit,
if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.
No Ed, you are ABUSING the scriptures to fit YOUR doctrine.That is NOT what Romans is saying.
Rom.8:9 isn't saying what it is saying?
Ed,Do you seriously believe that the people to whom Paul wrote those words no longer consisted of flesh at the time they read his words?
Do you think they were literally spirit beings who lived on earth and needed to be taught by the flesh being, Paul?
It seems to me like these guys are taking time out of their lives to thoroughly address each concern you bring up, and you are treating it as a joke.
Obviously, the scriptures you've quoted “say what they say”, Ed. The problem is that, many times, the words in the scriptures you quote don't actually MEAN what you claim they MEAN.
Perhaps you could give a SENSIBLE response to Wakeup, journey, and Devo – one that actually addresses the REASONS they say those scriptures don't mean what you think they do. They have presented a good, scriptually backed case that supports their understanding on each and every disagreement you and they have in this thread. Why not scripturally refute their case while proving your own? At least ADDRESS the points they brought up in their case, for crying out loud.
Anyway, this is an interesting thread.
(And Ed, you know I love you, brother. This was not meant to be a put-down or slam against you. I'm just putting into words the honest truth of what I've seen while reading through this thread.)
Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 06 2013,21:36) Pierre, I just wanted a straight answer. I know those scriptures.
Pretend you are on the street and you strike a conversation with someone………. but you only have 10 minutes, because the bus is coming soon.
How would you answer with your own words so that person can understand quickly & clearly?
That's how I want you to answer me.
Since I'm already adding my two cents into a thread in which I wasn't named…………….I also agree with journey's point here, Pierre. Many times you just list a string of scriptures as your “answer” to people's questions – as if we should all know what YOU think those scriptures mean, or how they support your view.
Try telling us WHY you think those particular scriptures support your understanding. And don't list 20 scriptures with one vague line at the bottom. List ONE scripture, tell us why it supports your view………….. THEN…………. list a second scripture, and tell us why THAT ONE supports your view……………. and so on down the line.
I think you would be able to more clearly support/defend your position if we all knew what it was you were actually saying. Not all of us know the scriptures like you do. Pretend we're all babes on milk, and EXPLAIN yourself.
Who knows, I may have missed many important teachings in my time here with you, simply because you ASSUMED I knew what you were saying – when I really didn't.
Food for thought.
peace and love,
mikeQuote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 08 2013,12:25) Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 06 2013,21:36) Pierre, I just wanted a straight answer. I know those scriptures.
Pretend you are on the street and you strike a conversation with someone………. but you only have 10 minutes, because the bus is coming soon.
How would you answer with your own words so that person can understand quickly & clearly?
That's how I want you to answer me.
Since I'm already adding my two cents into a thread in which I wasn't named…………….I also agree with journey's point here, Pierre. Many times you just list a string of scriptures as your “answer” to people's questions – as if we should all know what YOU think those scriptures mean, or how they support your view.
Try telling us WHY you think those particular scriptures support your understanding. And don't list 20 scriptures with one vague line at the bottom. List ONE scripture, tell us why it supports your view………….. THEN…………. list a second scripture, and tell us why THAT ONE supports your view……………. and so on down the line.
I think you would be able to more clearly support/defend your position if we all knew what it was you were actually saying. Not all of us know the scriptures like you do. Pretend we're all babes on milk, and EXPLAIN yourself.
Who knows, I may have missed many important teachings in my time here with you, simply because you ASSUMED I knew what you were saying – when I really didn't.
Food for thought.
peace and love,
mike
Thank you Mike.I'm glad you can see this and tell him with love.
Pierre,
I'm still waiting for your answer. I would like to continue this discussion with you.Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,11:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 07 2013,15:31) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 07 2013,10:59) Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 07 2013,05:22) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 07 2013,04:58) all truth is like a puzzle ,how more pieces you have in place how more of the picture you see,
but in no way ,by looking at the mixed pieces you can see any sense of the picture ,,
this is how we know who is seeing with truth and the ones who do not ,
so the question we should ask ourself is DO WE HAVE TAKEN IN ACCOUNT ALL OF THE RELATED SCRIPTURES
If not what we think to be true may in deed be false ,
Pierre,Do you believe Christ returns soon?
j42how soon ???what do you mean “soon ” is
T.
Why dont you defend your self.How can the 144000 be the first fruits.
When the coming resurrection is the second resurrection?
For you agreed with 2Besee.wakeup.
Greetings Wakeup,Great point.
It seems Ed, Pierre & 2besee have been seduced by those worldly doctrines concerning the kingdom which are doing the rounds once again.
They don't realise that their doctrines started in Alexandria in around the 3rd century AD & was greatly condemned even back then!!
ALEXANDRIA for crying out loud!!
If it wasn't for the CATHOLICS adopting Amillennialism, we probably would never had heard this greatly condemned apostasy again…
You guys have swallowed a CATHOLIC adopted doctrine Ed, Terra & 2besee!!
You know, that church that killed the true Christians & worships idols & rapes little boys & calls their leader “Father” & hoards untold riches & has freemasons amongst their ranks & whose priests on the whole dont even believe in God etc etc etc etc…
That is through whom this doctrine was preserved all this time…
And “lately” the PENTACOSTALS & THE LUTHERANS have also taken on board this apostasy too.Mainstream religion!!
Tossed by every “trendy” doctrine the tide brings in.
And people still fall for it every time!!Shame.
devoI hope you know what you are talking about because I have no clue ,
I just remember in our first encounter you had explain all of you scenario and I only ask you ONE question and all your scenario dropped to nothing ,
if you going to lower me down please make it with scriptures ,please
j42
Mt 24:3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
Rev 22:7 “Behold, I am coming soon! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book.”
Rev 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done.
Rev 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Rev 22:14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.can I say other wise than what scriptures are saying
NO. but I do not wait I want to be one that is “Blessed are those who wash their robes ” then it does not matter wen Jesus comes I am ready for him, in those scriptures Christ says he will return ,but before he return some things have to happen first ,and those things he as laid out in those scriptures but sense time is also a factor ,because many of his disciples in 70 AD were already dead ,the question could be asked then how should we apply the words of Christ ,because we are now 2000 years ahead of that time ;
so was Christ talking about the end time of the old covenant
the destruction of the temple, his return (but for what reason )and to whom would it be applied ???and some of the scriptures talking about servants doing the work at his coming who are they or did Christ talked about all the above
but if you think that all those questions can be answered in 10 minutes ,may be it could to the ones who have the same understanding if not we could be arguing for months to come ,
there is one thing I have not done in years is to try to make the world events the source of my understanding in scriptures, and will not do it now or ever
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2013,14:55) j42 Mt 24:3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
Rev 22:7 “Behold, I am coming soon! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book.”
Rev 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done.
Rev 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Rev 22:14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.can I say other wise than what scriptures are saying
NO. but I do not wait I want to be one that is “Blessed are those who wash their robes ” then it does not matter wen Jesus comes I am ready for him, in those scriptures Christ says he will return ,but before he return some things have to happen first ,and those things he as laid out in those scriptures but sense time is also a factor ,because many of his disciples in 70 AD were already dead ,the question could be asked then how should we apply the words of Christ ,because we are now 2000 years ahead of that time ;
so was Christ talking about the end time of the old covenant
the destruction of the temple, his return (but for what reason )and to whom would it be applied ???and some of the scriptures talking about servants doing the work at his coming who are they or did Christ talked about all the above
but if you think that all those questions can be answered in 10 minutes ,may be it could to the ones who have the same understanding if not we could be arguing for months to come ,
there is one thing I have not done in years is to try to make the world events the source of my understanding in scriptures, and will not do it now or ever
Terra.The destruction of the temple in70 ad.
How can you ever see this as the coming.?
That temple was destroyed by the Romans,it was just a local destruction.The second coming is the destruction of great babylon.
The whole system of this world,and all that is created by men.
And to save the elect from total inhalation,of the flesh.They could not destroy the earth in those days.
But today;yes,they can destroy the earth many times over.wakeup.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 08 2013,12:14) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2013,08:54) Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,20:43) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2013,18:53) Rom.8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit,
if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.
No Ed, you are ABUSING the scriptures to fit YOUR doctrine.That is NOT what Romans is saying.
Rom.8:9 isn't saying what it is saying?
Ed,Do you seriously believe that the people to whom Paul wrote those words no longer consisted of flesh at the time they read his words?
Do you think they were literally spirit beings who lived on earth and needed to be taught by the flesh being, Paul?
It seems to me like these guys are taking time out of their lives to thoroughly address each concern you bring up, and you are treating it as a joke.
Obviously, the scriptures you've quoted “say what they say”, Ed. The problem is that, many times, the words in the scriptures you quote don't actually MEAN what you claim they MEAN.
Perhaps you could give a SENSIBLE response to Wakeup, journey, and Devo – one that actually addresses the REASONS they say those scriptures don't mean what you think they do. They have presented a good, scriptually backed case that supports their understanding on each and every disagreement you and they have in this thread. Why not scripturally refute their case while proving your own? At least ADDRESS the points they brought up in their case, for crying out loud.
Anyway, this is an interesting thread.
(And Ed, you know I love you, brother. This was not meant to be a put-down or slam against you. I'm just putting into words the honest truth of what I've seen while reading through this thread.)
Hi Mike,Not sure what questions I missed? But
let me tell you my understanding of Rom.8:9.It means being “Born Again” with the spirit of God living in us,
meaning we can see God's Spiritual kingdom (John 3:3),
because we are part of God's Kingdom (Rom.14:17).
Having flesh does not prohibit us from entering!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgDoes this verse not indicate that they could go in while still in the flesh?
Matt 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees,
hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men:
for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 08 2013,11:50) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2013,14:55) j42 Mt 24:3 As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. “Tell us,” they said, “when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?”
Rev 22:7 “Behold, I am coming soon! Blessed is he who keeps the words of the prophecy in this book.”
Rev 22:12 “Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done.
Rev 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Rev 22:14 “Blessed are those who wash their robes, that they may have the right to the tree of life and may go through the gates into the city.can I say other wise than what scriptures are saying
NO. but I do not wait I want to be one that is “Blessed are those who wash their robes ” then it does not matter wen Jesus comes I am ready for him, in those scriptures Christ says he will return ,but before he return some things have to happen first ,and those things he as laid out in those scriptures but sense time is also a factor ,because many of his disciples in 70 AD were already dead ,the question could be asked then how should we apply the words of Christ ,because we are now 2000 years ahead of that time ;
so was Christ talking about the end time of the old covenant
the destruction of the temple, his return (but for what reason )and to whom would it be applied ???and some of the scriptures talking about servants doing the work at his coming who are they or did Christ talked about all the above
but if you think that all those questions can be answered in 10 minutes ,may be it could to the ones who have the same understanding if not we could be arguing for months to come ,
there is one thing I have not done in years is to try to make the world events the source of my understanding in scriptures, and will not do it now or ever
Terra.The destruction of the temple in70 ad.
How can you ever see this as the coming.?
That temple was destroyed by the Romans,it was just a local destruction.The second coming is the destruction of great babylon.
The whole system of this world,and all that is created by men.
And to save the elect from total inhalation,of the flesh.They could not destroy the earth in those days.
But today;yes,they can destroy the earth many times over.wakeup.
wupsee this is really not constructive ,wen I put a question mark you go and assume that this is what I believe ,
we are definitely not on the same level of understanding or your agenda is not to learn but to teach that what you believe his and that 's it ,take it or leave it ,right
this is the main reason why I cut you off ,to discuss any thing with deep understanding ,because you are preventing me to collect new understanding from by doing that ,
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 08 2013,12:25) Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 06 2013,21:36) Pierre, I just wanted a straight answer. I know those scriptures.
Pretend you are on the street and you strike a conversation with someone………. but you only have 10 minutes, because the bus is coming soon.
How would you answer with your own words so that person can understand quickly & clearly?
That's how I want you to answer me.
Since I'm already adding my two cents into a thread in which I wasn't named…………….I also agree with journey's point here, Pierre. Many times you just list a string of scriptures as your “answer” to people's questions – as if we should all know what YOU think those scriptures mean, or how they support your view.
Try telling us WHY you think those particular scriptures support your understanding. And don't list 20 scriptures with one vague line at the bottom. List ONE scripture, tell us why it supports your view………….. THEN…………. list a second scripture, and tell us why THAT ONE supports your view……………. and so on down the line.
I think you would be able to more clearly support/defend your position if we all knew what it was you were actually saying. Not all of us know the scriptures like you do. Pretend we're all babes on milk, and EXPLAIN yourself.
Who knows, I may have missed many important teachings in my time here with you, simply because you ASSUMED I knew what you were saying – when I really didn't.
Food for thought.
peace and love,
mike
Mike,You can join in ANY post we post ANY time you like because you're always welcome brother.
Whether you agree or disagree, it matters not!
everyone is welcome.
Peace to you.
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 08 2013,14:26) Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,11:23) Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 07 2013,15:31) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 07 2013,10:59) Quote (journey42 @ Jan. 07 2013,05:22) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 07 2013,04:58) all truth is like a puzzle ,how more pieces you have in place how more of the picture you see,
but in no way ,by looking at the mixed pieces you can see any sense of the picture ,,
this is how we know who is seeing with truth and the ones who do not ,
so the question we should ask ourself is DO WE HAVE TAKEN IN ACCOUNT ALL OF THE RELATED SCRIPTURES
If not what we think to be true may in deed be false ,
Pierre,Do you believe Christ returns soon?
j42how soon ???what do you mean “soon ” is
T.
Why dont you defend your self.How can the 144000 be the first fruits.
When the coming resurrection is the second resurrection?
For you agreed with 2Besee.wakeup.
Greetings Wakeup,Great point.
It seems Ed, Pierre & 2besee have been seduced by those worldly doctrines concerning the kingdom which are doing the rounds once again.
They don't realise that their doctrines started in Alexandria in around the 3rd century AD & was greatly condemned even back then!!
ALEXANDRIA for crying out loud!!
If it wasn't for the CATHOLICS adopting Amillennialism, we probably would never had heard this greatly condemned apostasy again…
You guys have swallowed a CATHOLIC adopted doctrine Ed, Terra & 2besee!!
You know, that church that killed the true Christians & worships idols & rapes little boys & calls their leader “Father” & hoards untold riches & has freemasons amongst their ranks & whose priests on the whole dont even believe in God etc etc etc etc…
That is through whom this doctrine was preserved all this time…
And “lately” the PENTACOSTALS & THE LUTHERANS have also taken on board this apostasy too.Mainstream religion!!
Tossed by every “trendy” doctrine the tide brings in.
And people still fall for it every time!!Shame.
devoI hope you know what you are talking about because I have no clue ,
I just remember in our first encounter you had explain all of you scenario and I only ask you ONE question and all your scenario dropped to nothing ,
if you going to lower me down please make it with scriptures ,please
Pierre,Pleas don't think I'm putting you down okay brother?
Coz I'm not.It's called being blunt…my version of shock tactics is all.
Look Pierre, our first encounter became heated is all, please let it go like I have let go of your various insults since then.
It's okay.Look, I put in a lot of effort into gathering & typing out those scriptures and felt like you weren't even really listening because you would ask me things I already explained in detail & I got frustrated coz I thought you were just stringing me along after all the time I put into it.
So I stopped the debate coz I felt I had nothing left to say & felt that you either weren't listening to my responses or just refused to address my points & instead, answered with scriptures but with brief explanations which I found confusing to understand your point & thought we were just going over the same ol' ground.
But you know what, I don't let that bother me anymore & I still enjoy talking to you even though I find you frustrating at times
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,02:00) Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,23:16) Ed.
You are running out of time brother.
The clock is ticking.
Hi Devolution,Not to fear, I will be getting a new husk upgrade when this old one falls apart.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 07 2013,17:25) Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 07 2013,16:33) Ed, The 2nd coming has not happened yet.
Stop linking Pentacost with the 2nd coming.This is not good.
Hi Devolution,You saying it don't make it true.
I have provided you with Scripture.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Ed,You provided me with Pentecost not the 2nd coming.
As Journey already pointed out, Jesus never returned on Pentecost but SENT the Spirit on His behalf.
Not only that, look at these 2nd coming scriptures please…
Revelation 1:7 >Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
>”Behold, he cometh with clouds”…Jesus did not come with the clouds at Petecost.
>”and every eye shall see him”…Nobody saw Him at Pentecost, nobody saw anything in fact…neither those who pierced Him.
>”and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.”…All kindreds of the earth did not wail at Pentecost, only those at the scene knew what took place at Pentecost as it was happening.Acts 1:11 >Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Again, nobody saw Jesus at Pentecost, not even the Apostles, yet these men observed with their own eyes Jesus ascending, and like they were told, just as they saw Him ascending, so too will He be visually seen at His return (2nd coming).
There are many more, but for now, could you please explain how these 2nd coming scriptures fit into Pentecost?
Thanks Ed.
Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 08 2013,19:29) Hi Ed, look at these 2nd coming scriptures please…
Revelation 1:7 >Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
1>”Behold, he cometh with clouds”…Jesus did not come with the clouds at Petecost.
2>”and every eye shall see him”…Nobody saw Him at Pentecost, nobody saw anything in fact…neither those who pierced Him.
3>”and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.”…All kindreds of the earth did not wail at Pentecost, only those at the scene knew what took place at Pentecost as it was happening.There are many more, but for now, could you please explain how these 2nd coming scriptures fit into Pentecost?
Thanks Ed.
Hi Devolution, (Part 1)“Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him:
and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.” (Rev 1:7)1> The clouds Jesus comes with is a cloud of believers. (ref. Heb.12:1)
2> They seen him in Heavenly places (in believers) for the east even unto the west.
3> All kindreds of the earth do wail because of Jesus' death burial and subsequent resurrection.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Devolution @ Jan. 08 2013,19:29) Hi Ed, Acts 1:11 >Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Again, nobody saw Jesus at Pentecost, not even the Apostles, yet these men observed with their own eyes Jesus ascending, and like they were told, just as they saw Him ascending, so too will He be visually seen at His return (2nd coming).
There are many more, but for now, could you please explain how these 2nd coming scriptures fit into Pentecost?
Thanks Ed.
Hi Devolution, (Part 2)They seen Jesus among his believers Physically and now Spiritually.
Please continue….God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,20:33) Quote (Devolution @ Jan. 08 2013,19:29) Hi Ed, look at these 2nd coming scriptures please…
Revelation 1:7 >Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
1>”Behold, he cometh with clouds”…Jesus did not come with the clouds at Petecost.
2>”and every eye shall see him”…Nobody saw Him at Pentecost, nobody saw anything in fact…neither those who pierced Him.
3>”and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.”…All kindreds of the earth did not wail at Pentecost, only those at the scene knew what took place at Pentecost as it was happening.There are many more, but for now, could you please explain how these 2nd coming scriptures fit into Pentecost?
Thanks Ed.
Hi Devolution, (Part 1)“Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him:
and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.” (Rev 1:7)1> The clouds Jesus comes with is a cloud of believers. (ref. Heb.12:1)
2> They seen him in Heavenly places (in believers) for the east even unto the west.
3> All kindreds of the earth do wail because of Jesus' death burial and subsequent resurrection.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
He EdLet me teach you some Australian slang.
You need to chuck a U-e
meaning Turn the other way.
example The kingdom is the other wayChuck a U-e mate
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 08 2013,00:06) Does this verse not indicate that they could go in while still in the flesh? Matt 23:13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees,
hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men:
for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
Hi Ed,I've just addressed this very scripture for Pierre in another thread. Fourth post from top.
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