God reveals truth, the son reveals truth

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Gene said:

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YOU fail to see the forest because of all the trees, dump your 600 scholars and rely on GOD to reveal His the truth to you.

Gene correctly says that God reveals truth. The Son reveals truth. Therefore, the Son is God.

THE SON REVEALS THE FATHER TO US:

” All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him” Matthew 11:27

Major premise: God reveals truth
Minor premise: The Son reveals the Father
Conclusion: Therefore, the Son is God

JESUS CHRIST REVEALED THE GOSPEL TO PAUL:

“But I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. 12 For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through the revelation of Jesus Christ” Galatians 1:11-12

There it is friends! Paul said that the gospel did not come to him by man but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. It was Jesus who revealed the gospel truth to Paul andt it did not come to him by man. Then Jesus is clearly God for the truth did not come to Paul by man.

Thanks Gene buddy.

thinker

December 31, 2009 at 6:06 pm#167504

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Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 31 2009,12:52)

Gene said:

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YOU fail to see the forest because of all the trees, dump your 600 scholars and rely on GOD to reveal His the truth to you.

Gene correctly says that God reveals truth. The Son reveals truth. Therefore, the Son is God.

THE SON REVEALS THE FATHER TO US:

Major premise: God reveals truth
Minor premise: The Son reveals the Father
Conclusion: Therefore, the Son is God

JESUS CHRIST REVEALED THE GOSPEL TO PAUL:

Thanks Gene buddy.

thinker

Jack

Home run!

Gene what do you say to Pauls statement that he didn't get his revelation from man?

Paul's view of Jesus is he was his “Great God and Savour”. Tit 2:13

December 31, 2009 at 6:33 pm#167511

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Hi TT,
The adapters of precious truth glory in their mutual reflections?

December 31, 2009 at 6:39 pm#167513

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 01 2010,05:33)

Hi TT,
The adapters of precious truth glory in their mutual reflections?

No reply Nicky?

thinker

December 31, 2009 at 6:46 pm#167516

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Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 31 2009,13:39)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 01 2010,05:33)

Hi TT,
The adapters of precious truth glory in their mutual reflections?

No reply Nicky?

thinker

Jack

I think the “Truth cat” has him by the tongue!

December 31, 2009 at 9:08 pm#167556

terraricca

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hi WJ

anyone who comes from the Father this means whoever prophets,priest,apostels,Jesus the Son more than others tells the truth of God about God and for the glory of God ,
one God
one Son thats all.

no trinity.

January 1, 2010 at 4:08 pm#167641

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Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 01 2010,08:08)

hi WJ

anyone who comes from the Father this means whoever prophets,priest,apostels,Jesus the Son more than others tells the truth of God about God and for the glory of God ,
one God
one Son thats all.

no trinity.

The Son revals the Father to whomsoever He wills.

“All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.”

This is nothing less than absolute sovereignty. Furthermore, Jesus claimed that God was His own Father and it got Him into trouble with the Jews because he was making Himself equal with God (John 5:18).

“This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.” ESV

Seeing that God is Christ's OWN Father He may reveal Him to whomsoever He wills.

Absolute sovereignty!

thinker

January 1, 2010 at 5:09 pm#167649

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Hi TT,
So logic leads you to conclude there are two gods?

January 1, 2010 at 5:39 pm#167659

GeneBalthrop

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Thinker………So when i quote GOD'S words does that make me a GOD too. Pure hog wash. Jesus said the words He spoke were (NOT) (HIS) Words , what part of that you don't understand. Is there no end to you TRINITARIANS twisting of the words of GOD the FATHER and Jesus our brother also.

January 1, 2010 at 5:42 pm#167661

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Quote (Gene @ Jan. 01 2010,12:39)

Gene

We have been over this and you deny looking at all scriptural data.

Jesus in many places claimed his words as his own also.

Shall I post those scrptures again?

January 1, 2010 at 5:57 pm#167665

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Hi WJ,
You have to keep wasting time seeking for justification for your trinity dogma as scripture does not teach it.

January 1, 2010 at 7:44 pm#167674

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Quote (Gene @ Jan. 02 2010,04:39)

Gene,
You're not the eternal Word are you? Btw, you quote God's wors in the manner that satan does by changing the truth of God into a lie.

Did the son reveal the Father to you or not? Was it His sovereign choice or not? Simple questions.

thinker

January 1, 2010 at 7:45 pm#167675

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Hi TT,
So God sent, empowered and gave authority to His son.

January 1, 2010 at 7:46 pm#167676

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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 02 2010,04:09)

Hi TT,
So logic leads you to conclude there are two gods?

Nick,
Did the son reveal the Father to you or not?

thinker

January 1, 2010 at 7:48 pm#167677

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Quote (Gene @ Jan. 02 2010,04:39)

Gene,
You can quote and even misquote truth. But you cannot reveal truth. Jesus can reveal truth by His own sovereign choice.

thinker

January 1, 2010 at 8:21 pm#167682

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Hi TT,
God sent His Son.
God was in him reconciling the world to Himself.

Do you still confuse them?

January 1, 2010 at 8:55 pm#167685

942767

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Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 01 2010,05:06)

Quote (thethinker @ Dec. 31 2009,12:52)

Gene said:

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YOU fail to see the forest because of all the trees, dump your 600 scholars and rely on GOD to reveal His the truth to you.

Gene correctly says that God reveals truth. The Son reveals truth. Therefore, the Son is God.

THE SON REVEALS THE FATHER TO US:

Major premise: God reveals truth
Minor premise: The Son reveals the Father
Conclusion: Therefore, the Son is God

JESUS CHRIST REVEALED THE GOSPEL TO PAUL:

Thanks Gene buddy.

thinker

Jack

Home run!

Gene what do you say to Pauls statement that he didn't get his revelation from man?

Paul's view of Jesus is he was his “Great God and Savour”. Tit 2:13

Hi WJ:

Did I not hear you acknowledge to your buddy Jack that Jesus stated that the words that he spoke were coming from the Father?

Maybe I am wrong, but I thought you had acknowledged this.

Love in Christ,
Marty

January 1, 2010 at 9:00 pm#167686

942767

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Quote (thethinker @ Jan. 01 2010,04:52)

Gene said:

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YOU fail to see the forest because of all the trees, dump your 600 scholars and rely on GOD to reveal His the truth to you.

Gene correctly says that God reveals truth. The Son reveals truth. Therefore, the Son is God.

THE SON REVEALS THE FATHER TO US:

Major premise: God reveals truth
Minor premise: The Son reveals the Father
Conclusion: Therefore, the Son is God

JESUS CHRIST REVEALED THE GOSPEL TO PAUL:

Thanks Gene buddy.

thinker

Hi thethinker:

Yes, Jesus revealed the gospel to the Apostle Paul. It is on this order that it is revealed through Jesus to Paul and to the rest of his servants:

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Rev 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave Him to show His servants–things which must shortly take place. And He sent and signified it by His angel to His servant John,

Love in Christ,
Marty

January 1, 2010 at 9:44 pm#167693

terraricca

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hi WJ ,
you are not guided by Christ spirit, i say this because you are more intensely involved with your own views and application of the scriptures than anything else,you place your self above God and Christ,this i hope will help the viewers of this quote to pay attention.

January 1, 2010 at 9:55 pm#167697