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Pierre! I don't know about any other language, but in the German Bible in general lines up with our KJ Bible perfectly. We own a German Bible. I find it waste of time to study even the number system Ed is doing. I also find it a waste of time even responding to Him. And I see very few who have. So that should tell Him something. Yet he keeps up with it. I also wonder how God looks at it. Since it is confusing to so many, I would think that God would not like it at all. You also can see how many read the Bible and get different meanings out of each Scripture. So why would anyone even add the numbers to the confusion already. It simple makes no sense at all.
Peace IreneQuote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2010,23:50) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 27 2010,08:28)
edjnot to say much ,but you should think deeper ED,any organization who is world wide can not only use one translation,
KJV is only in English, so what abode the Germans,or French,or Slavic people and so on ,
in my experience you may need a few translation to make up there little twisting of scriptures.
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,Instead of reading those versions by individuals who rewrote the bible, you
should instead study The Hebrew Masoretic Text and The Greek Majority Texts.God bless
ed j (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjthe moseric translation or copies are dated from the 9 century,
Masoretic Text
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The Masoretic Text (MT, ��, or ) is the authoritative Hebrew text of the Jewish Bible regarded almost universally as the official version of the Tanakh.[citation needed] It defines not just the books of the Jewish canon, but also the precise letter-text of the biblical books in Judaism, as well as their vocalization and accentuation known as the Masorah. The MT is also widely used as the basis for translations of the Old Testament in Protestant Bibles, and in recent years (since 1943) also for some Catholic Bibles.[1] In modern times the Dead Sea Scrolls have shown the MT to be nearly identical to some texts of the Tanakh dating from 200 B.C.E. but different from others.The MT was primarily copied, edited and distributed by a group of Jews known as the Masoretes between the seventh and tenth centuries CE. Though the consonants differ little from the text generally accepted in the early second century (and also differ little from some Qumran texts that are even older), it has numerous differences of both greater and lesser significance when compared to (extant 4th century) manuscripts of the Septuagint, a Greek translation (made in the 3rd to 2nd centuries BCE) of the Hebrew Scriptures that was in popular use in Egypt and Palestine and that is believed by scholars[citation needed] to be the source often quoted in the New Testament.
The Hebrew word mesorah (מסורה, alt. מסורת) refers to the transmission of a tradition. In a very broad sense it can refer to the entire chain of Jewish tradition (see Oral law), but in reference to the Masoretic Text the word mesorah has a very specific meaning: the diacritic markings of the text of the Hebrew Bible and concise marginal notes in manuscripts (and later printings) of the Hebrew Bible which note textual details, usually about the precise spelling of words.
The oldest extant manuscripts of the Masoretic Text date from approximately the ninth century AD,[2] and the Aleppo Codex (once the oldest complete copy of the Masoretic Text, but now missing its Torah section) dates from the tenth century.
edj;you play on the ignorance of others ;this means that you know better but you deny the truth to others,
Pierre
Quote (Baker @ Oct. 06 2010,15:40) Pierre! I don't know about any other language, but in the German Bible in general lines up with our KJ Bible perfectly. We own a German Bible. I find it waste of time to study even the number system Ed is doing. I also find it a waste of time even responding to Him. And I see very few who have. So that should tell Him something. Yet he keeps up with it. I also wonder how God looks at it. Since it is confusing to so many, I would think that God would not like it at all. You also can see how many read the Bible and get different meanings out of each Scripture. So why would anyone even add the numbers to the confusion already. It simple makes no sense at all.
Peace Irene
hi Irenegood to see you ,you right ,but i see this way ,understanding of scriptures is reserved to the righteous ones those who rely on God word for there salvation and truly share there knowledge,with caution ,
all the other knowledge is purely intellectual brain gymnastics,
just look in the “debate”some are good,but only if the opponent is truthful,I also believe it does not matter the translation providing it is a direct translation from the original text,
you know the first time i heard of the RYRIE bible by Georg, I have ordered my personal copy of it ,i have now 10 translation in three languages.
the spirit of Christ is the same in all of them.God bless you both
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 06 2010,14:47) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2010,23:50) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 27 2010,08:28)
edjnot to say much ,but you should think deeper ED,any organization who is world wide can not only use one translation,
KJV is only in English, so what abode the Germans,or French,or Slavic people and so on ,
in my experience you may need a few translation to make up there little twisting of scriptures.
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,Instead of reading those versions by individuals who rewrote the bible, you
should instead study The Hebrew Masoretic Text and The Greek Majority Texts.God bless
ed j (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjthe moseric translation or copies are dated from the 9 century,
Masoretic Text
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search
The Masoretic Text (MT, ��, or ) is the authoritative Hebrew text of the Jewish Bible regarded almost universally as the official version of the Tanakh.[citation needed] It defines not just the books of the Jewish canon, but also the precise letter-text of the biblical books in Judaism, as well as their vocalization and accentuation known as the Masorah. The MT is also widely used as the basis for translations of the Old Testament in Protestant Bibles, and in recent years (since 1943) also for some Catholic Bibles.[1] In modern times the Dead Sea Scrolls have shown the MT to be nearly identical to some texts of the Tanakh dating from 200 B.C.E. but different from others.The MT was primarily copied, edited and distributed by a group of Jews known as the Masoretes between the seventh and tenth centuries CE. Though the consonants differ little from the text generally accepted in the early second century (and also differ little from some Qumran texts that are even older), it has numerous differences of both greater and lesser significance when compared to (extant 4th century) manuscripts of the Septuagint, a Greek translation (made in the 3rd to 2nd centuries BCE) of the Hebrew Scriptures that was in popular use in Egypt and Palestine and that is believed by scholars[citation needed] to be the source often quoted in the New Testament.
The Hebrew word mesorah (מסורה, alt. מסורת) refers to the transmission of a tradition. In a very broad sense it can refer to the entire chain of Jewish tradition (see Oral law), but in reference to the Masoretic Text the word mesorah has a very specific meaning: the diacritic markings of the text of the Hebrew Bible and concise marginal notes in manuscripts (and later printings) of the Hebrew Bible which note textual details, usually about the precise spelling of words.
The oldest extant manuscripts of the Masoretic Text date from approximately the ninth century AD,[2] and the Aleppo Codex (once the oldest complete copy of the Masoretic Text, but now missing its Torah section) dates from the tenth century.
edj;you play on the ignorance of others ;this means that you know better but you deny the truth to others,
Pierre
HI Terraricca,What is your point; what are you trying to cry foul about?
Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 06 2010,23:15) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 06 2010,14:47) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2010,23:50) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 27 2010,08:28)
edjnot to say much ,but you should think deeper ED,any organization who is world wide can not only use one translation,
KJV is only in English, so what abode the Germans,or French,or Slavic people and so on ,
in my experience you may need a few translation to make up there little twisting of scriptures.
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,Instead of reading those versions by individuals who rewrote the bible, you
should instead study The Hebrew Masoretic Text and The Greek Majority Texts.God bless
ed j (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjthe moseric translation or copies are dated from the 9 century,
Masoretic Text
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search
The Masoretic Text (MT, ��, or ) is the authoritative Hebrew text of the Jewish Bible regarded almost universally as the official version of the Tanakh.[citation needed] It defines not just the books of the Jewish canon, but also the precise letter-text of the biblical books in Judaism, as well as their vocalization and accentuation known as the Masorah. The MT is also widely used as the basis for translations of the Old Testament in Protestant Bibles, and in recent years (since 1943) also for some Catholic Bibles.[1] In modern times the Dead Sea Scrolls have shown the MT to be nearly identical to some texts of the Tanakh dating from 200 B.C.E. but different from others.The MT was primarily copied, edited and distributed by a group of Jews known as the Masoretes between the seventh and tenth centuries CE. Though the consonants differ little from the text generally accepted in the early second century (and also differ little from some Qumran texts that are even older), it has numerous differences of both greater and lesser significance when compared to (extant 4th century) manuscripts of the Septuagint, a Greek translation (made in the 3rd to 2nd centuries BCE) of the Hebrew Scriptures that was in popular use in Egypt and Palestine and that is believed by scholars[citation needed] to be the source often quoted in the New Testament.
The Hebrew word mesorah (מסורה, alt. מסורת) refers to the transmission of a tradition. In a very broad sense it can refer to the entire chain of Jewish tradition (see Oral law), but in reference to the Masoretic Text the word mesorah has a very specific meaning: the diacritic markings of the text of the Hebrew Bible and concise marginal notes in manuscripts (and later printings) of the Hebrew Bible which note textual details, usually about the precise spelling of words.
The oldest extant manuscripts of the Masoretic Text date from approximately the ninth century AD,[2] and the Aleppo Codex (once the oldest complete copy of the Masoretic Text, but now missing its Torah section) dates from the tenth century.
edj;you play on the ignorance of others ;this means that you know better but you deny the truth to others,
Pierre
HI Terraricca,What is your point; what are you trying to cry foul about?
edjwhat i was saying is that, that version is any better than the ones they have translated from this one.
the spirit of Christ is the same.
Pierre
PS;the masoretic writings are also copy's of others.
Hi Terraricca,
We don't have the original (Torah) written by the hand of Moses,
neither do we have the original (Tanakh) writings of the Prophets.The Masorites were copyists who meticulously copied the original Hebrew Canon down through the centuries.
Copies (of the originals) that were handed down through the centuries were called The Masoretic Texts.
If they made even one mistake in copying, it had to be burned and they had to start all over again.For you to imply that all English translations carry the same weight is not at all accurate!
Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgTo All,
There are EXACTLY five words for “God” the Greek (all are pronounced Thēôs); they are…
Four (4) of these are “plural” forms of the word; only one (1) is used in “singular” form.1) θεος
2) θεου
3) θεω
4) θεον
5) θεεAlso a matching aspect to the five variants for God in The Hebrew Masoretic texts…
1) Strong’s 426: אלה (ĔL-äh) elah: corresponding to 433; God:-God, god.
2) Strong’s 433: אלוה (ĔL-ō-äh) eloah: from 410; a deity or The Deity:-God, god. See 430
3) Strong’s 6697: צור (tsû-är) tsoor: a rock; a refuge(house); X(times) mighty God, sharp, X stone, X strength.
4) Strong’s 430: אלהים (ĔL-ō-Hêêm) elohiym: plural of 433; gods in the ordinary sense;
but specifically used in the plural of the supreme God; angels, X exceedingly; God, X great, judges, X mighty.
5) Strong’s 410: אל (ĔL) ale: mighty; strength; The Almighty (also used of any deity):- God, X goodly, X great; power.This pattern of five has a matching aspect to…
…………………God's signature
YHVH=63 (God's Name: יהוה transliterated into English)
יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH is pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's Name in English is: “Joshua”)
God The Father=117 (Representing GOD: יהוה האלהים)
HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The word”: in all believers!)Also matching the number of times JEHOVAH is used in singular form in the “AKJV Bible”(74)…
1) JEHOVAH is My Name “YHVH”=63 (Exodus 6:3)
2) JEHOVAH is The Most High “GOD The Father”=117 (Psalm 83:18)
3) The LORD JEHOVAH=151 is [The Savior=117] in “Jesus Christ”=151 (Isaiah 12:2)
4) The LORD JEHOVAH=151 is Everlasting strength in “Holy Spirit”=151 (Isaiah 26:4)
5) JAH (Psalm 68:4) The Name of “GOD”=26 is יהוה=26 spoken as “YÄ”=26 and “YÄ-hä-vāGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgedj
i do not imply that all English or any language translation are any better,this i told you on the previous quote,
but it is the spirit of Christ that saves not your bible translation
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 10 2010,14:19) edj i do not imply that all English or any language translation are any better,this i told you on the previous quote,
but it is the spirit of Christ that saves not your bible translation
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,AKJV Bible = 74
“The AKJV Bible is the most accurate English-speaking Bible we possess
and can be proven to be as anointed as the original texts themselves”.
This idea is PROVEN as God encoded his existence into the AKJV Bible!…………… ……God's signature
YHVH=63 (God's Name: יהוה transliterated into English)
יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH is pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's Name in English is: “Joshua”)
God The Father=117 (Representing GOD: יהוה האלהים)
HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The word”: in all believers!)Witnessing to a worldwide audience in behalf of YHVH!
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 49:16 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org (Ecl.9:12-16)Hi Everyone,
“There is an intelligence originating outside of time that can now
be mathematically linked to the Christian Bible and even labeled… “GOD”!“[ 63 x 71 = 4473 ]
The title: “God” appears in the “AKJV Bible”(74) exactly 4473 times.
God's Signature
יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)Gematria: is the use of number valuations, associating different words together, through integers.
“Gematria”(74) is a powerful tool, which can be used with Hebrew, Greek and English languages;
illustrating that through the use number associations: Gematria even crosses languages barriers.Theomatics: is the practice of using “Gematria” to associate Theological ideas
through the use of multiplication factors derived from their Gematria valuations.The God Numbers(151): are specific reoccurring “Theomatic numbers” in the AKJV Bible;
that not only help to prove GOD’s existence, but also help to clarify many doctrinal beliefs.The God Numbers (26, 63, 74, 117 & 151) represent certain specific numbers that connect theological ideas,
which reduce associated language limitations. Through the extensive use of [theomatic encryptions = 63×4],
great and mighty things of GOD are now being revealed, greatly increasing the knowledge of truth. (Jer. 33:3)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Everyone,
God's Signature
יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)The Number 151
God’s Name (יהוה) is WRITTEN EXACTLY 6823 times in the Hebrew Masoretic Texts. See how
The Gematria value of Ιησους Χριστоς=2368 Ē-Ā-Soos Chrĭstŏs (Jesus Christ in Greek)
resembles the number of times God’s Name is used in the Hebrew Masoretic Texts.6823 is the 877th prime number in a long list of primes starting with two (2).
Now this might not seem significant until you realize that the number 877
is the 151st prime number. This number 151 shows “Unity” in Spirit.The Key=74…………………The God Numbers=151
יהוה=26……………………….YHVH is One GOD=151 (Psalm 68:4)
YHVH=63……………………LORD of Hosts=151 (AKJV Bible)
Jesus=74……………………Jesus Christ=151 (New Testament)
HolySpirit=151……………Holy Spirit=151 (Old & New Testament)
God The Father=117……The LORD JEHOVAH=151 (Isaiah 12:2, 26:4)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2011,00:58) Hi Everyone, God's Signature
יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)The Number 151
God’s Name (יהוה) is WRITTEN EXACTLY 6823 times in the Hebrew Masoretic Texts. See how
The Gematria value of Ιησους Χριστоς=2368 Ē-Ā-Soos Chrĭstŏs (Jesus Christ in Greek)
resembles the number of times God’s Name is used in the Hebrew Masoretic Texts.6823 is the 877th prime number in a long list of primes starting with two (2).
Now this might not seem significant until you realize that the number 877
is the 151st prime number. This number 151 shows “Unity” in Spirit.The Key=74…………………The God Numbers=151
יהוה=26……………………….YHVH is One GOD=151 (Psalm 68:4)
YHVH=63……………………LORD of Hosts=151 (AKJV Bible)
Jesus=74……………………Jesus Christ=151 (New Testament)
HolySpirit=151……………Holy Spirit=151 (Old & New Testament)
God The Father=117……The LORD JEHOVAH=151 (Isaiah 12:2, 26:4)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed, find me some numbers for the lottery, but Pm me, otherwise there are to many splits.Georg
Quote (Baker @ Feb. 01 2011,06:02) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 30 2011,00:58) Hi Everyone, God's Signature
יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)The Number 151
God’s Name (יהוה) is WRITTEN EXACTLY 6823 times in the Hebrew Masoretic Texts. See how
The Gematria value of Ιησους Χριστоς=2368 Ē-Ā-Soos Chrĭstŏs (Jesus Christ in Greek)
resembles the number of times God’s Name is used in the Hebrew Masoretic Texts.6823 is the 877th prime number in a long list of primes starting with two (2).
Now this might not seem significant until you realize that the number 877
is the 151st prime number. This number 151 shows “Unity” in Spirit.The Key=74…………………The God Numbers=151
יהוה=26……………………….YHVH is One GOD=151 (Psalm 68:4)
YHVH=63……………………LORD of Hosts=151 (AKJV Bible)
Jesus=74……………………Jesus Christ=151 (New Testament)
HolySpirit=151……………Holy Spirit=151 (Old & New Testament)
God The Father=117……The LORD JEHOVAH=151 (Isaiah 12:2, 26:4)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed, find me some numbers for the lottery, but Pm me, otherwise there are to many splits.Georg
edjplease
Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 13 2009,09:36) Contained within the AKJV Bible
As soon as I see statements like that, warning bells go off. The last person who told me that the AKJV is the true bible is now in prison for sexual abuse.OK, that is a bit harsh but it is true. However, that aside, I have always been suspicious of those who promote the AKJV as the only true translation. When you look at the facts, you will see that this version doesn't make use of the oldest manuscripts or the Dead Sea Scrolls because they were not accessible in that time. Also, King James English is not as clear to an English speaker today. In addition, the AKJV has the johanneum comma added in as well as other dubious verses.
Ed, could you please supply next weeks lotto numbers from the scriptural code matrix. Please post the answer in the next few days. Upon a win, I will give you the princely sum of 5% of the winnings. Cheers.
Quote (t8 @ Feb. 10 2011,14:28) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 13 2009,09:36) Contained within the AKJV Bible
As soon as I see statements like that, warning bells go off. The last person who told me that the AKJV is the true bible is now in prison for sexual abuse.
HA HA, Ha ha ha ha!!!God's Signature
The Bible(63) → AKJV Bible(74)יהוה=26 (God's Name: YHVH pronounced YÄ-hä-vā)
YHVH=63 (God's Name יהוה translated into English)
Jesus=74 (God's Son's name in English is: “Joshua”)
HolySpirit=151 (“FATHER: The Word”: in all believers)
God The Father=117 (Representing “GOD”: יהוה האלהים)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (t8 @ Feb. 10 2011,14:28) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 13 2009,09:36) Contained within the AKJV Bible
As soon as I see statements like that, warning bells go off. The last person who told me that the AKJV is the true bible is now in prison for sexual abuse.OK, that is a bit harsh but it is true. However, that aside, I have always been suspicious of those who promote the AKJV as the only true translation. When you look at the facts, you will see that this version doesn't make use of the oldest manuscripts or the Dead Sea Scrolls because they were not accessible in that time. Also, King James English is not as clear to an English speaker today. In addition, the AKJV has the johanneum comma added in as well as other dubious verses.
Hi T8,What is: …'the johanneum comma added in'… ?
The AKJV is not the only version that has 1John 5:7 added.
As far as I know, this is the only dubious verse added to it's contents?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Everyone,
There really is something to “English Gematria”, but I appear
to be having some trouble explaining it's significance to you all.Take for example the story of the 30 pieces of silver that Judas
was paid for betraying Jesus. This “Prophecy” was foretold in Zech.Zech.11:10-13: 10 And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder,
that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people. 11 And
it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew
that it was the word of the LORD. 12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me
my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver. 13 And
the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prized at of them.
And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD.“Beauty”(74) equals “Jesus”(74)
“Beauty”(74) here CLEARLY represents “Jesus”(74);
GOD foretelling “HIS DEATH”(74) on the [†] “Cross”(74).Would you all call this “Cherry Picking” as well? ~
well, it’s some pretty ripe “Fruit”(74); huh? (Rom.7:4)“God Blood”(74) from the “God Son”(74)
Matt.27:3-7 3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself,
and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, 4 Saying, I have sinned
in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.
5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.
6 And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury,
because it is the price of blood. 7 And they took counsel, and bought with them the potter's field, to bury strangers in.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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