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  • #305107
    Spock
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    Satan had been a “brilliant angel of light” but embraced the false teachings of Lucifer and lead the world into sin and darkness.

    The evil ones would not have been able to carry out such an evil act of betrayal of stewardship if they had not first been given such power and trust.

    Their elder brother and co-creator Christ Michael incarnate and assumed “all power and authority in heaven and on earth.”

    The evil ones have been vanquished, striped of any power or authority, for there came to be no truth in them.

    Colter

    #305111
    Wakeup
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    Quote (Colter @ July 06 2012,21:39)
    Satan had been a “brilliant angel of light” but embraced the false teachings of Lucifer and lead the world into sin and darkness.

    The evil ones would not have been able to carry out such an evil act of betrayal of stewardship if they had not first been given such power and trust.

    Their elder brother and co-creator Christ Michael incarnate and assumed “all power and authority in heaven and on earth.”

    The evil ones have been vanquished, striped of any power or authority, for there came to be no truth in them.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Lucifer became satan.
    There is no lucifer and satan as two creatures.They are one and the same.
    Christ is the LIVING WORD OF GOD,AND MICHAEL IS THE ARCH ANGEL,ONE OF THE CHIEF ANGELS.
    1. Micha'el.
    2. Rapha'el.
    3. Gabri'el.
    4. Phanu'el.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.

    #305117
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 06 2012,23:22)

    Quote (Colter @ July 06 2012,21:39)
    Satan had been a “brilliant angel of light” but embraced the false teachings of Lucifer and lead the world into sin and darkness.

    The evil ones would not have been able to carry out such an evil act of betrayal of stewardship if they had not first been given such power and trust.

    Their elder brother and co-creator Christ Michael incarnate and assumed “all power and authority in heaven and on earth.”

    The evil ones have been vanquished, striped of any power or authority, for there came to be no truth in them.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Lucifer became satan.
    There is no lucifer and satan as two creatures.They are one and the same.
    Christ is the LIVING WORD OF GOD,AND MICHAEL IS THE ARCH ANGEL,ONE OF THE CHIEF ANGELS.
    1. Micha'el.
    2. Rapha'el.
    3. Gabri'el.
    4. Phanu'el.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.


    The topic is about the delegation of authority as the reason that the fallen Sons of God could mislead a whole world.

    There was another revelation in the early part of the twentieth century called “The Urantia Book”. The revelation explains who Jesus was before he incarnate with the given name Joshua Ben Joseph “Jesus”. It also explains who Lucifer was, his assistant Satan and who the “prince of this world” was that the authors of Genesis refer to as “the crafty beast”.

    These former high Sons of God were brilliant beings of light, which explains how and why they could mislead angels and other various orders of celestial beings that enlisted in the Atheist battle against the concept and rule of the Father.

    Colter

    #305118
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ July 07 2012,00:17)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 06 2012,23:22)

    Quote (Colter @ July 06 2012,21:39)
    Satan had been a “brilliant angel of light” but embraced the false teachings of Lucifer and lead the world into sin and darkness.

    The evil ones would not have been able to carry out such an evil act of betrayal of stewardship if they had not first been given such power and trust.

    Their elder brother and co-creator Christ Michael incarnate and assumed “all power and authority in heaven and on earth.”

    The evil ones have been vanquished, striped of any power or authority, for there came to be no truth in them.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Lucifer became satan.
    There is no lucifer and satan as two creatures.They are one and the same.
    Christ is the LIVING WORD OF GOD,AND MICHAEL IS THE ARCH ANGEL,ONE OF THE CHIEF ANGELS.
    1. Micha'el.
    2. Rapha'el.
    3. Gabri'el.
    4. Phanu'el.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.


    The topic is about the delegation of authority as the reason that the fallen Sons of God could mislead a whole world.

    There was another revelation in the early part of the twentieth century called “The Urantia Book”. The revelation explains who Jesus was before he incarnate with the given name Joshua Ben Joseph “Jesus”. It also explains who Lucifer was, his assistant Satan and who the “prince of this world” was that the authors of Genesis refer to as “the crafty beast”.  

    These former high Sons of God were brilliant beings of light, which explains how and why they could mislead angels and other various orders of celestial beings that enlisted in the Atheist battle against the concept and rule of the Father.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Who tempted Eve in the garden?

    wakeup.

    #305120
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 07 2012,01:10)

    Quote (Colter @ July 07 2012,00:17)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 06 2012,23:22)

    Quote (Colter @ July 06 2012,21:39)
    Satan had been a “brilliant angel of light” but embraced the false teachings of Lucifer and lead the world into sin and darkness.

    The evil ones would not have been able to carry out such an evil act of betrayal of stewardship if they had not first been given such power and trust.

    Their elder brother and co-creator Christ Michael incarnate and assumed “all power and authority in heaven and on earth.”

    The evil ones have been vanquished, striped of any power or authority, for there came to be no truth in them.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Lucifer became satan.
    There is no lucifer and satan as two creatures.They are one and the same.
    Christ is the LIVING WORD OF GOD,AND MICHAEL IS THE ARCH ANGEL,ONE OF THE CHIEF ANGELS.
    1. Micha'el.
    2. Rapha'el.
    3. Gabri'el.
    4. Phanu'el.

    wakeup.

    wakeup.


    The topic is about the delegation of authority as the reason that the fallen Sons of God could mislead a whole world.

    There was another revelation in the early part of the twentieth century called “The Urantia Book”. The revelation explains who Jesus was before he incarnate with the given name Joshua Ben Joseph “Jesus”. It also explains who Lucifer was, his assistant Satan and who the “prince of this world” was that the authors of Genesis refer to as “the crafty beast”.  

    These former high Sons of God were brilliant beings of light, which explains how and why they could mislead angels and other various orders of celestial beings that enlisted in the Atheist battle against the concept and rule of the Father.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Who tempted Eve in the garden?

    wakeup.


    Answer: The fallen “prince of this world”, his name was Caligastia, this was revealed by the Urantia revelation.

    We also leaned that Adam and Eve were Sons of God incarnate on our divinely evolved, very old earth. They came about 39,000+ years ago. The fragmented story of Genesis was carried by oral tradition for thousands of years before the Hebrews incorporated it into their books during the Babylonian captivity.

    * Lucifer was a celestial administrator overseeing a number of inhabited worlds.

    * Satan was his trusted assistant whom Lucifer was able to corrupt.

    * Caligastia was the resident “Prince” of our world who enlisted in the doubts of Lucifer’s cause/war. Cal. was still resident on the planet when Adam & Eve arrived on the mission of redemption and retraining of this fallen world.

    * After Adam and Eve fell, it was decided that our humble world, the least of 10,000,000 inhabited worlds under the creatorship of Jesus/Christ Michael, would be the world of his required incarnation.

    * Jesus terminated the “Lucifer rebellion” just prior to his public teaching career. John the revelator saw some of this in his revelation on Patmos 50 years after Jesus left, but unfortunately that great revelation did not survive intact in “The Book of revelation.”

    Colter

    #305141
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Colter.

    Which of the two revelations would you believe; The revelation from God (the book of revelation) or the revelation of urantia?

    What is wrong with the flesh of Christ? Is it not to your taste,that you have to feed on strange flesh?
    Eating strange flesh is just like eating junk food,its not good for your health,in this case your spirit.

    wakeup.

    #305178
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 07 2012,10:07)
    Colter.

    Which of the two revelations would you believe; The revelation from God (the book of revelation) or the revelation of urantia?

    What is wrong with the flesh of Christ? Is it not to your taste,that you have to feed on strange flesh?
    Eating strange flesh is just like eating junk food,its not good for your health,in this case your spirit.

    wakeup.


    Jesus didn't teach the vampire doctrines, your flesh eating is foreign to the original gospel of spiritual rebirth and living faith.

    You asked a serious question and you got the answer, however your mind is sealed by the corrupt churches idolatrous book fetish.

    The books which comprise the bible don't even claim to be “the word of God.” The Son is “the word”, the human narratives about the doings of God and man are imperfect.

    Colter

    #305206
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ July 07 2012,12:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 07 2012,10:07)
    Colter.

    Which of the two revelations would you believe; The revelation from God (the book of revelation) or the revelation of urantia?

    What is wrong with the flesh of Christ? Is it not to your taste,that you have to feed on strange flesh?
    Eating strange flesh is just like eating junk food,its not good for your health,in this case your spirit.

    wakeup.


    Jesus didn't teach the vampire doctrines, your flesh eating is foreign to the original gospel of spiritual rebirth and living faith.

    You asked a serious question and you got the answer, however your mind is sealed by the corrupt churches idolatrous book fetish.

    The books which comprise the bible don't even claim to be “the word of God.”  The Son is “the word”, the human narratives about the doings of God and man are imperfect.

    Colter


    Colter.

    I am confused; you are saying that Jesus is the word of God,but then you say the words of jesus in the bible is not the word of God.Jesus did mention the old prophets,and the 12 apostles,they and others saw Jesus hanging on the cross and also taken up to heaven.

    No, Jesus teachings are not vampire doctrines of eating flesh, as of red meat. But his flesh is the word of God; for he is the word of God.

    I am not influenced by any church doctrine.But you seem to be influenced by some unknown doctrine to me; may I ask what doctrine?

    If the Holy bible is not the word of God; then which one is?

    wakeup.

    #305213
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 07 2012,22:49)

    Quote (Colter @ July 07 2012,12:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 07 2012,10:07)
    Colter.

    Which of the two revelations would you believe; The revelation from God (the book of revelation) or the revelation of urantia?

    What is wrong with the flesh of Christ? Is it not to your taste,that you have to feed on strange flesh?
    Eating strange flesh is just like eating junk food,its not good for your health,in this case your spirit.

    wakeup.


    Jesus didn't teach the vampire doctrines, your flesh eating is foreign to the original gospel of spiritual rebirth and living faith.

    You asked a serious question and you got the answer, however your mind is sealed by the corrupt churches idolatrous book fetish.

    The books which comprise the bible don't even claim to be “the word of God.”  The Son is “the word”, the human narratives about the doings of God and man are imperfect.

    Colter


    Colter.

    I am confused; you are saying that Jesus is the word of God,but then you say the words of jesus in the bible is not the word of God.Jesus did mention the old prophets,and the 12 apostles,they and others saw Jesus hanging on the cross and also taken up to heaven.

    No, Jesus teachings are not vampire doctrines of eating flesh, as of red meat. But his flesh is the word of God; for he is the word of God.

    I am not influenced by any church doctrine.But you seem to be influenced by some unknown doctrine to me; may I ask what doctrine?

    If the Holy bible is not the word of God; then which one is?

    wakeup.


    To the extent that the words and teachings of Jesus were accurately preserved within the books of the Bible then I see those as the “word of God.'” But nothing that the hand of man has touched can be considered the inerrant word of God.

    Doctrine petrifies, crystallises and stagnates. The religion OF Jesus is a living faith/trust in God >now< not the fetish of book worship.

    The church used the supposed perfection of the scripture to control people, the churches followers in tern do the same to others. The Jews used the scripture to deny Jesus because in truth he was really quite different then the expected Jewish Messiah.

    I have living faith but no doctrines.

    Colter

    #305226
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    I don't understand you, Colter.  You are quick to imply that the books of the NT are doctored by men, but just as quick to accept, without question, the teachings of some book about space aliens.  ??? And you seem to want us to trade in the scriptures for the teachings this other book.

    #305234
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 08 2012,05:10)
    I don't understand you, Colter.  You are quick to imply that the books of the NT are doctored by men, but just as quick to accept, without question, the teachings of some book about space aliens.  ???  And you seem to want us to trade in the scriptures for the teachings this other book.


    Hi Mike,

    I do understand where you are coming from, the apostles didn't just do an about face and have perfect faith in a carpenter from Nazareth, it took time for Jesus to win them over to a new way of thinking.

    I don't know why you need to call possible revelators “space aliens”? Would you call Gabriel or Enoch or Elijah space aliens? How about Jesus, according to the Bible Jesus floated off into space? What about the 3 celestial beings who visited A braham at the trees of Mamre?

    If a new revelation were to occur how do you think it would come? Angels with official name tags and passports from heaven? Why do you accept the spectacular events of the Bible yet don't think great things can occur today?

    Something extraordinary has happened, the word is slowly getting out. We now know so much more about everything.

    Colter

    #305240
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Matthew 24
    10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.

    How do you know you're not being deceived by this book, Colter?

    (And btw, I thought “Urantia” was the name of the planet that space aliens such as Jesus and Satan came from. I wasn't being snide, I just seriously thought that is what the book taught.)

    #305262
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 08 2012,09:01)
    Matthew 24
    10 At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, 11 and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.

    How do you know you're not being deceived by this book, Colter?

    (And btw, I thought “Urantia” was the name of the planet that space aliens such as Jesus and Satan came from.  I wasn't being snide, I just seriously thought that is what the book taught.)


    True, many false prophets have come and gone, but Jesus told us how to discern “truth”, the witness of the Father within us.

    Urantia is the heavenly name of our planet, Salvington is where Christ Michael resides. There are many other inhabited planets under Jesus creator-ship. “I have sheep not of this fold, I must bring them also.”

    Colter

    #305273
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    So the Father within you told you the Urantia Book was true?

    #305286
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ July 08 2012,01:33)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 07 2012,22:49)

    Quote (Colter @ July 07 2012,12:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 07 2012,10:07)
    Colter.

    Which of the two revelations would you believe; The revelation from God (the book of revelation) or the revelation of urantia?

    What is wrong with the flesh of Christ? Is it not to your taste,that you have to feed on strange flesh?
    Eating strange flesh is just like eating junk food,its not good for your health,in this case your spirit.

    wakeup.


    Jesus didn't teach the vampire doctrines, your flesh eating is foreign to the original gospel of spiritual rebirth and living faith.

    You asked a serious question and you got the answer, however your mind is sealed by the corrupt churches idolatrous book fetish.

    The books which comprise the bible don't even claim to be “the word of God.”  The Son is “the word”, the human narratives about the doings of God and man are imperfect.

    Colter


    Colter.

    I am confused; you are saying that Jesus is the word of God,but then you say the words of jesus in the bible is not the word of God.Jesus did mention the old prophets,and the 12 apostles,they and others saw Jesus hanging on the cross and also taken up to heaven.

    No, Jesus teachings are not vampire doctrines of eating flesh, as of red meat. But his flesh is the word of God; for he is the word of God.

    I am not influenced by any church doctrine.But you seem to be influenced by some unknown doctrine to me; may I ask what doctrine?

    If the Holy bible is not the word of God; then which one is?

    wakeup.


    To the extent that the words and teachings of Jesus were accurately preserved within the books of the Bible then I see those as the “word of God.'” But nothing that the hand of man has touched can be considered the inerrant word of God.

    Doctrine petrifies, crystallises and stagnates. The religion OF Jesus is a living faith/trust in God >now< not the fetish of book worship.

    The church used the supposed perfection of the scripture to control people, the churches followers in tern do the same to others. The Jews used the scripture to deny Jesus because in truth he was really quite different then the expected Jewish Messiah.

    I have living faith but no doctrines.

    Colter


    Colter.

    I know for sure that the whole bible is inspired by God.
    Because from the book of genesis to the book of revelation I find harmony; there are no contradictions found,if one can understand them.

    There is no need to go shopping all over the place to find the truth,for that only causes error. Satan has given us many choices, many books to read,to conceal the truth,and to confuse,for he is the father of confusion.

    Jesus said ''I AM THE BREAD OF LIFE'' HE WHO EATS MY FLESH AND DRINK MY BLOOD WILL HAVE ETERNAL LIVE.
    He is the word of God and his flesh is the words found in the Holy bible; those words are spirit ,and it is the spirit that quickens.

    wakeup.

    #305296
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 08 2012,11:58)
    So the Father within you told you the Urantia Book was true?


    In essence Yes, in the same way that the Father revealed the truth about Jesus to 12 Jewish fishermen as well as other followers of Jesus.

    This faith validation was supposed to have been “the rock” upon which the kingdom was built but unfortunately the visible, material church became a replacement and subsequent hindrance to the original gospel.

    People surrender their own right to faith experience to institutional authority.

    Colter

    #305297
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2012,15:32)

    Quote (Colter @ July 08 2012,01:33)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 07 2012,22:49)

    Quote (Colter @ July 07 2012,12:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 07 2012,10:07)
    Colter.

    Which of the two revelations would you believe; The revelation from God (the book of revelation) or the revelation of urantia?

    What is wrong with the flesh of Christ? Is it not to your taste,that you have to feed on strange flesh?
    Eating strange flesh is just like eating junk food,its not good for your health,in this case your spirit.

    wakeup.


    Jesus didn't teach the vampire doctrines, your flesh eating is foreign to the original gospel of spiritual rebirth and living faith.

    You asked a serious question and you got the answer, however your mind is sealed by the corrupt churches idolatrous book fetish.

    The books which comprise the bible don't even claim to be “the word of God.”  The Son is “the word”, the human narratives about the doings of God and man are imperfect.

    Colter


    Colter.

    I am confused; you are saying that Jesus is the word of God,but then you say the words of jesus in the bible is not the word of God.Jesus did mention the old prophets,and the 12 apostles,they and others saw Jesus hanging on the cross and also taken up to heaven.

    No, Jesus teachings are not vampire doctrines of eating flesh, as of red meat. But his flesh is the word of God; for he is the word of God.

    I am not influenced by any church doctrine.But you seem to be influenced by some unknown doctrine to me; may I ask what doctrine?

    If the Holy bible is not the word of God; then which one is?

    wakeup.


    To the extent that the words and teachings of Jesus were accurately preserved within the books of the Bible then I see those as the “word of God.'” But nothing that the hand of man has touched can be considered the inerrant word of God.

    Doctrine petrifies, crystallises and stagnates. The religion OF Jesus is a living faith/trust in God >now< not the fetish of book worship.

    The church used the supposed perfection of the scripture to control people, the churches followers in tern do the same to others. The Jews used the scripture to deny Jesus because in truth he was really quite different then the expected Jewish Messiah.

    I have living faith but no doctrines.

    Colter


    Colter.

    I know for sure that the whole bible is inspired by God.
    Because from the book of genesis to the book of revelation I find harmony; there are no contradictions found,if one can understand them.

    There is no need to go shopping all over the place to find the truth,for that only causes error. Satan has given us many choices, many books to read,to conceal the truth,and to confuse,for he is the father of confusion.

    Jesus said ''I AM THE BREAD OF LIFE'' HE WHO EATS MY FLESH AND DRINK MY BLOOD WILL HAVE ETERNAL LIVE.
    He is the word of God and his flesh is the words found in the Holy bible; those words are spirit ,and it is the spirit that quickens.

    wakeup.


    Then stay there Wakeup, it will be a safe place for you if you believe in 2 Gods, a Satan God and the original God.

    Satan was a liar, yet you continue to perpetuate his Lie, you continue to buttress his attempt to be “God of this world” by “belief” in him as God of this world.

    There is only one God, there has always been only one God and no matter how foolish his Sons have behaved, there will always be only One God. He does not share his creation with and evil counterpart.

    If you need a Golden calf, an idol made of hands, a book fetish to believe in because you find living faith to be to uncertain then stay in the delusion of Bible perfection.

    Colter

    #305307
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ July 08 2012,22:58)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2012,15:32)

    Quote (Colter @ July 08 2012,01:33)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 07 2012,22:49)

    Quote (Colter @ July 07 2012,12:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 07 2012,10:07)
    Colter.

    Which of the two revelations would you believe; The revelation from God (the book of revelation) or the revelation of urantia?

    What is wrong with the flesh of Christ? Is it not to your taste,that you have to feed on strange flesh?
    Eating strange flesh is just like eating junk food,its not good for your health,in this case your spirit.

    wakeup.


    Jesus didn't teach the vampire doctrines, your flesh eating is foreign to the original gospel of spiritual rebirth and living faith.

    You asked a serious question and you got the answer, however your mind is sealed by the corrupt churches idolatrous book fetish.

    The books which comprise the bible don't even claim to be “the word of God.”  The Son is “the word”, the human narratives about the doings of God and man are imperfect.

    Colter


    Colter.

    I am confused; you are saying that Jesus is the word of God,but then you say the words of jesus in the bible is not the word of God.Jesus did mention the old prophets,and the 12 apostles,they and others saw Jesus hanging on the cross and also taken up to heaven.

    No, Jesus teachings are not vampire doctrines of eating flesh, as of red meat. But his flesh is the word of God; for he is the word of God.

    I am not influenced by any church doctrine.But you seem to be influenced by some unknown doctrine to me; may I ask what doctrine?

    If the Holy bible is not the word of God; then which one is?

    wakeup.


    To the extent that the words and teachings of Jesus were accurately preserved within the books of the Bible then I see those as the “word of God.'” But nothing that the hand of man has touched can be considered the inerrant word of God.

    Doctrine petrifies, crystallises and stagnates. The religion OF Jesus is a living faith/trust in God >now< not the fetish of book worship.

    The church used the supposed perfection of the scripture to control people, the churches followers in tern do the same to others. The Jews used the scripture to deny Jesus because in truth he was really quite different then the expected Jewish Messiah.

    I have living faith but no doctrines.

    Colter


    Colter.

    I know for sure that the whole bible is inspired by God.
    Because from the book of genesis to the book of revelation I find harmony; there are no contradictions found,if one can understand them.

    There is no need to go shopping all over the place to find the truth,for that only causes error. Satan has given us many choices, many books to read,to conceal the truth,and to confuse,for he is the father of confusion.

    Jesus said ''I AM THE BREAD OF LIFE'' HE WHO EATS MY FLESH AND DRINK MY BLOOD WILL HAVE ETERNAL LIVE.
    He is the word of God and his flesh is the words found in the Holy bible; those words are spirit ,and it is the spirit that quickens.

    wakeup.


    Then stay there Wakeup, it will be a safe place for you if you believe in 2 Gods, a Satan God and the original God.

    Satan was a liar, yet you continue to perpetuate his Lie, you continue to buttress his attempt to be “God of this world” by “belief” in him as God of this world.

    There is only one God, there has always been only one God and no matter how foolish his Sons have behaved, there will always be only One God. He does not share his creation with and evil counterpart.

    If you need a Golden calf, an idol made of hands, a book fetish to believe in because you find living faith to be to uncertain then stay in the delusion of Bible perfection.

    Colter


    Colter.

    There is one true God,jehovah is his name, and I follow him.
    The god of this world(babylon the great) is satan.
    he is the false god.

    The world(babylon the great) follow the teachings of their god satan, and you are following his books and teachings.

    You need to go back to the word of God only.It is called the HOLY BIBLE, AND NONE ELSE.

    wakeup.

    #305325
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 09 2012,01:57)

    Quote (Colter @ July 08 2012,22:58)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 08 2012,15:32)

    Quote (Colter @ July 08 2012,01:33)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 07 2012,22:49)

    Quote (Colter @ July 07 2012,12:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 07 2012,10:07)
    Colter.

    Which of the two revelations would you believe; The revelation from God (the book of revelation) or the revelation of urantia?

    What is wrong with the flesh of Christ? Is it not to your taste,that you have to feed on strange flesh?
    Eating strange flesh is just like eating junk food,its not good for your health,in this case your spirit.

    wakeup.


    Jesus didn't teach the vampire doctrines, your flesh eating is foreign to the original gospel of spiritual rebirth and living faith.

    You asked a serious question and you got the answer, however your mind is sealed by the corrupt churches idolatrous book fetish.

    The books which comprise the bible don't even claim to be “the word of God.”  The Son is “the word”, the human narratives about the doings of God and man are imperfect.

    Colter


    Colter.

    I am confused; you are saying that Jesus is the word of God,but then you say the words of jesus in the bible is not the word of God.Jesus did mention the old prophets,and the 12 apostles,they and others saw Jesus hanging on the cross and also taken up to heaven.

    No, Jesus teachings are not vampire doctrines of eating flesh, as of red meat. But his flesh is the word of God; for he is the word of God.

    I am not influenced by any church doctrine.But you seem to be influenced by some unknown doctrine to me; may I ask what doctrine?

    If the Holy bible is not the word of God; then which one is?

    wakeup.


    To the extent that the words and teachings of Jesus were accurately preserved within the books of the Bible then I see those as the “word of God.'” But nothing that the hand of man has touched can be considered the inerrant word of God.

    Doctrine petrifies, crystallises and stagnates. The religion OF Jesus is a living faith/trust in God >now< not the fetish of book worship.

    The church used the supposed perfection of the scripture to control people, the churches followers in tern do the same to others. The Jews used the scripture to deny Jesus because in truth he was really quite different then the expected Jewish Messiah.

    I have living faith but no doctrines.

    Colter


    Colter.

    I know for sure that the whole bible is inspired by God.
    Because from the book of genesis to the book of revelation I find harmony; there are no contradictions found,if one can understand them.

    There is no need to go shopping all over the place to find the truth,for that only causes error. Satan has given us many choices, many books to read,to conceal the truth,and to confuse,for he is the father of confusion.

    Jesus said ''I AM THE BREAD OF LIFE'' HE WHO EATS MY FLESH AND DRINK MY BLOOD WILL HAVE ETERNAL LIVE.
    He is the word of God and his flesh is the words found in the Holy bible; those words are spirit ,and it is the spirit that quickens.

    wakeup.


    Then stay there Wakeup, it will be a safe place for you if you believe in 2 Gods, a Satan God and the original God.

    Satan was a liar, yet you continue to perpetuate his Lie, you continue to buttress his attempt to be “God of this world” by “belief” in him as God of this world.

    There is only one God, there has always been only one God and no matter how foolish his Sons have behaved, there will always be only One God. He does not share his creation with and evil counterpart.

    If you need a Golden calf, an idol made of hands, a book fetish to believe in because you find living faith to be to uncertain then stay in the delusion of Bible perfection.

    Colter


    Colter.

    There is one true God, Jehovah is his name, and I follow him.
    The god of this world(babylon the great) is satan.
    he is the false god.

    The world(babylon the great) follow the teachings of their god satan, and you are following his books and teachings.

    You need to go back to the word of God only.It is called the HOLY BIBLE, AND NONE ELSE.

    wakeup.


    You have contradicted yourself within the same post, You believe in two Gods,…..and the term “Jehovah” didn't come into use until 1500 years after Christ. The term is used among the oppressive Jehovah's Witness cult.

    Colter

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    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Colter,

    JEHOVAH – is how the translators translated the name [יהוה] YÄ-hä-vā.

    Your brother
    in Christ, Jesus.
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    holycitybiblecode.org

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