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Quote (terraricca @ June 27 2010,17:55) Quote (chosenone @ June 26 2010,16:30) Pierre, you accuse, but don't give any reference as to how I twisted scripture. Please show me where I have “twisted” scripture”.
Do not bear “false witness”. Prove your accusations!Jerry.
COyou hiding and not answering questions to me and to SF,
you believe in predeterminism and will not see it any other way,
and you make scriptures bend and twist to justify your believe.
Pierre
ps;any one can go back and see for himself.
Pierre.
Once again you accuse me of “twisting scripture” but never show me where I have done so!
You say: “any one can go back and see for himself.” That is a cop out, Go back and print a quote that you say I have “twisted scripture”
I “challange you”… GO BACK AND QUOTE ME FROM PREVIOUS POSTS WHERE YOU SAY “I HAVE TWISTED SCRIPURE”.
I'll bet you won't do so, because you accuse falsely, a very unchristian thing to do.Jerry.
Quote (chosenone @ June 30 2010,04:07) Quote (terraricca @ June 27 2010,17:55) Quote (chosenone @ June 26 2010,16:30) Pierre, you accuse, but don't give any reference as to how I twisted scripture. Please show me where I have “twisted” scripture”.
Do not bear “false witness”. Prove your accusations!Jerry.
COyou hiding and not answering questions to me and to SF,
you believe in predeterminism and will not see it any other way,
and you make scriptures bend and twist to justify your believe.
Pierre
ps;any one can go back and see for himself.
Pierre.
Once again you accuse me of “twisting scripture” but never show me where I have done so!
You say: “any one can go back and see for himself.” That is a cop out, Go back and print a quote that you say I have “twisted scripture”
I “challange you”… GO BACK AND QUOTE ME FROM PREVIOUS POSTS WHERE YOU SAY “I HAVE TWISTED SCRIPURE”.
I'll bet you won't do so, because you accuse falsely, a very unchristian thing to do.Jerry.
COyou can not even read my comment straightly
Pierre
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 30 2010,04:02) tim………..Chosenone is right brother. there exist not such thing as a will that is “FREE” that is an oxymoron , a will would not be a will if it were “FREE”. It would be a lose canon bouncing around off everything there is. We are all (caused) to come to GOD by His effectual working Spirit (IN) Us. I think you are confusing the Word Liberty to express our (INFLUENCED) Will mixed up with Us Having a “FREE” Will (IN) Us the exist (NO) scripture that say we have a so-called “FREE WILL” (IN) us. see if you can find one brother. peace and love to you and yours…………………………gene
gene: Perhaps the word will is something I am unaware of. I know that Jesus came to set us free. He set us free of the law that created sin and death. The truth has set me free. If God says I am free then I am free indeed. If I am free to move and do as I please and my will is my desire then I have free will. You reap what you sow. There are consequences to your choices but you are free. I mean you can rob a bank if you want to. If caught you will do time in jail but you can make that choice. You might even say it isn't a smart choice but it is a free choice to me. Maybe I just don't understand.The scriptures may not say “free will” as such but freedom is freedom to me. I have a will of my own and I can choose to use it the way I want. Please enlighten me. Thanks TKTim……….lets look at it this way brother, you said reap what you sow, there are consequences to your choices but your are free. Let zero in on this . Here is the way i see it, Yes there are consequences for our choices indeed there are, but what casused thoses choices would be the question was it a so-called “FREE” will or a captivated Will? all of our choices are driven by our desires right, then if my desire is to do evil i will do evil if my desire is to do good then i will do good right, so now where does these desires come from a “FREE” will or a captivated or influenced will> I maintain they came from a (influenced will) an if God Spirit is in a person it influences that person to think like God thinks, that is why it say He (GOD) Works (IN) us both to (WILL) and do of (HIS) good pleasure. If our own so-called non scriptural “Free Wills is the big important in guiding our godly Choices then why would God have to (WORK) at all in Us. Get what we are saying brother. Again i think you are confusing , GOD granted (LIBERTY) to exercise our Will , with us having a Will that is “FREE” (IN) us. IMO
peace and love to you and yours brother………………………….gene
Quote (chosenone @ June 29 2010,16:58) EdJ.
I'll post these verses from the “Concordant version”, which is a word for word translation of the Greek. I feel it is more accurate…17 For if I am engaging in this voluntarily, I have wages, yet if involuntarily, I have been entrusted with an administration.
18 What, then, is my wage? That, in bringing the evangel, I should be placing the evangel without expense, so as not to use up my authority in the evangel.
19 For, being free of all, I enslave myself to all, that I should be gaining the more.Although the word “free” is used, scriptures never use the term “free will”.
God Bless, Jerry.
Hi Jerry,Are these verses missing out of your Bible as well?
Lev:22:18: Speak unto Aaron, and to his sons, and unto all the children of Israel, and say unto them, Whatsoever he be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers in Israel, that will offer his oblation for all his vows, and for all his freewill offerings, which they will offer unto the LORD for a burnt offering;
Lev:22:21: And whosoever offereth a sacrifice of peace offerings unto the LORD to accomplish his vow, or a freewill offering in beeves or sheep, it shall be perfect to be accepted; there shall be no blemish therein.
Lev:22:23: Either a bullock or a lamb that hath any thing superfluous or lacking in his parts, that mayest thou offer for a freewill offering; but for a vow it shall not be accepted.
Lev:23:38: Beside the sabbaths of the LORD, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the LORD.
Num:15:3: And will make an offering by fire unto the LORD, a burnt offering, or a sacrifice in performing a vow, or in a freewill offering, or in your solemn feasts, to make a sweet savour unto the LORD, of the herd, or of the flock:
Num:29:39: These things ye shall do unto the LORD in your set feasts, beside your vows, and your freewill offerings, for your burnt offerings, and for your meat offerings, and for your drink offerings, and for your peace offerings.
Deut:12:6: And thither ye shall bring your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, and your tithes, and heave offerings of your hand, and your vows, and your freewill offerings, and the firstlings of your herds and of your flocks:
Deut:12:17: Thou mayest not eat within thy gates the tithe of thy corn, or of thy wine, or of thy oil, or the firstlings of thy herds or of thy flock, nor any of thy vows which thou vowest, nor thy freewill offerings, or heave offering of thine hand:
Deut:16:10: And thou shalt keep the feast of weeks unto the LORD thy God with a tribute of a freewill offering of thine hand, which thou shalt give unto the LORD thy God, according as the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
Deut:23:23: That which is gone out of thy lips thou shalt keep and perform; even a freewill offering, according as thou hast vowed unto the LORD thy God, which thou hast promised with thy mouth.
2Chron:31:14: And Kore the son of Imnah the Levite, the porter toward the east, was over the freewill offerings of God, to distribute the oblations of the LORD, and the most holy things.
Ezra:1:4: And whosoever remaineth in any place where he sojourneth, let the men of his place help him with silver, and with gold, and with goods, and with beasts, beside the freewill offering for the house of God that is in Jerusalem.
Ezra:3:5: And afterward offered the continual burnt offering, both of the new moons, and of all the set feasts of the LORD that were consecrated, and of every one that willingly offered a freewill offering unto the LORD.
Ezra:7:13: I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and of his priests and Levites, in my realm, which are minded of their own freewill to go up to Jerusalem, go with thee.
Ezra:7:16: And all the silver and gold that thou canst find in all the province of Babylon, with the freewill offering of the people, and of the priests, offering willingly for the house of their God which is in Jerusalem:
Ezra:8:28: And I said unto them, Ye are holy unto the LORD; the vessels are holy also; and the silver and the gold are a freewill offering unto the LORD God of your fathers.
Ps:119:108: Accept, I beseech thee, the freewill offerings of my mouth, O LORD, and teach me thy judgments.
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Gene Balthrop @ June 30 2010,07:41) Tim……….lets look at it this way brother, you said reap what you sow, there are consequences to your choices but your are free. Let zero in on this . Here is the way i see it, Yes there are consequences for our choices indeed there are, but what casused thoses choices would be the question was it a so-called “FREE” will or a captivated Will? all of our choices are driven by our desires right, then if my desire is to do evil i will do evil if my desire is to do good then i will do good right, so now where does these desires come from a “FREE” will or a captivated or influenced will> I maintain they came from a (influenced will) an if God Spirit is in a person it influences that person to think like God thinks, that is why it say He (GOD) Works (IN) us both to (WILL) and do of (HIS) good pleasure. If our own so-called non scriptural “Free Wills is the big important in guiding our godly Choices then why would God have to (WORK) at all in Us. Get what we are saying brother. Again i think you are confusing , GOD granted (LIBERTY) to exercise our Will , with us having a Will that is “FREE” (IN) us. IMO peace and love to you and yours brother………………………….gene
Gene: Do I understand you correctly. You believe that God is either directing our will's/desires or influencing them from within us? In a way I might agree only that the fruit of Gods spirit within is love, peace, joy, etc., so yes Gods spirit within could influence our desires to express that fruit. But it is totally a free will move on our part to express the fruit of Gods spirit or the fruit of evil/destruction. The more spirit/words of truth/God we consume the more tendency we have to express his love to all. From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. God bless you, TKQuote (chosenone @ June 29 2010,16:58) EdJ.
I'll post these verses from the “Concordant version”, which is a word for word translation of the Greek. I feel it is more accurate…17 For if I am engaging in this voluntarily, I have wages, yet if involuntarily, I have been entrusted with an administration.
18 What, then, is my wage? That, in bringing the evangel, I should be placing the evangel without expense, so as not to use up my authority in the evangel.
19 For, being free of all, I enslave myself to all, that I should be gaining the more.Although the word “free” is used, scriptures never use the term “free will”.
Eph.1:11 …in Him in Whom our lot was cast also, being designated beforehand according to the purpose of the One being designated beforehand according to the purpose of the One Who is operating all in accord with the counsel of His will,
Notice … “being designated beforehand” God has predestined all, our so-called 'free will' cannot change anything.
Also … “Who is operating all in accord with the counsel of His will”, If God is operating “ALL” in accord to His will, how can we change anything with our will?God Bless, Jerry.
Hi Jerry,In case nobody ever told you, the AKJV Bible was translated on a strict “word for word” basis;
added words were italicized to aid in (not accidentally corrupting) translational differences.So called 'modern versions' have a lot of mans bias added to them like your Concordant version,
loosing sight of who the enemy is (Lucifer) as described in Chapter 14 of Isaiah. (Click Here)
“To not fully understand the enemy is to leave oneself blind!”God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Tim Kraft @ June 30 2010,10:14) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 30 2010,07:41) Tim……….lets look at it this way brother, you said reap what you sow, there are consequences to your choices but your are free. Let zero in on this . Here is the way i see it, Yes there are consequences for our choices indeed there are, but what casused thoses choices would be the question was it a so-called “FREE” will or a captivated Will? all of our choices are driven by our desires right, then if my desire is to do evil i will do evil if my desire is to do good then i will do good right, so now where does these desires come from a “FREE” will or a captivated or influenced will> I maintain they came from a (influenced will) an if God Spirit is in a person it influences that person to think like God thinks, that is why it say He (GOD) Works (IN) us both to (WILL) and do of (HIS) good pleasure. If our own so-called non scriptural “Free Wills is the big important in guiding our godly Choices then why would God have to (WORK) at all in Us. Get what we are saying brother. Again i think you are confusing , GOD granted (LIBERTY) to exercise our Will , with us having a Will that is “FREE” (IN) us. IMO peace and love to you and yours brother………………………….gene
Gene: Do I understand you correctly. You believe that God is either directing our will's/desires or influencing them from within us? In a way I might agree only that the fruit of Gods spirit within is love, peace, joy, etc., so yes Gods spirit within could influence our desires to express that fruit. But it is totally a free will move on our part to express the fruit of Gods spirit or the fruit of evil/destruction. The more spirit/words of truth/God we consume the more tendency we have to express his love to all. From the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. God bless you, TK
Tim…..I am glad you do understand that God does (WORK) (IN) Us to cause us to Will. Jesus even said “No man (could) come unto him unless the Father draw Him. So you see it is impossible to even go to Jesus in a right way unless the Father cause it to Happen. There is a scripture that say He led a host of captives captive. I am not sure if i quoted that one exactly right though, i will have of check it out. Tim our thinking hold us all captive to one dagree or another , we have all been influenced by this life and these influences drive our choices . The very word will mean desires a person Has and these desires come from our minds and cause our choices. The term “FREE WILL” as Being (IN) a person is nowhere found in scripture. The only place free will is mentioned it is referencing a person own desire to offer a sacrifce to GOd , but that sacrifice was a result of a Preconvieved desire and the person could offer it freely if he so chose to. That scripture has nothing to do with a so-called free will being (IN) a person at all> IMOpeace and love to you and yours brother…………………..gene
EdJ.
In the AKJV, that you say is a word for word translation, the same hebrew word that means 'Command', is also translated as say,speak, instruct,appoint,bid,charge, order. So how could it possibly be a word for word translation?Blessings.
Hi Chosenone,
Doesn't context mean anything to you?
I think you need a “break”.
Keep a tight grip on the reins so the horse doesn't “break”.
The airplane is going to “break” the sound barrier.
The soldiers never “break” rank.
Let's play pool now, you “break”.Should “break” always be translated into the same word in a different language?
If this is what 'your' bible does, then it has some serious FLAWS; don't you think?God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,17:46) Hi Chosenone, Doesn't context mean anything to you?
I think you need a “break”.
Keep a tight grip on the reins so the horse doesn't “break”.
The airplane is going to “break” the sound barrier.
The soldiers never “break” rank.
Let's play pool now, you “break”.Should “break” always be translated into the same word in a different language?
If this is what 'your' bible does, then it has some serious FLAWS; don't you think?God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdJ.
Answer, “yes”.Blessings.
Quote (Ed J @ June 30 2010,08:08) Quote (chosenone @ June 29 2010,16:58) EdJ.
I'll post these verses from the “Concordant version”, which is a word for word translation of the Greek. I feel it is more accurate…17 For if I am engaging in this voluntarily, I have wages, yet if involuntarily, I have been entrusted with an administration.
18 What, then, is my wage? That, in bringing the evangel, I should be placing the evangel without expense, so as not to use up my authority in the evangel.
19 For, being free of all, I enslave myself to all, that I should be gaining the more.Although the word “free” is used, scriptures never use the term “free will”.
God Bless, Jerry.
Hi Jerry,Are these verses missing out of your Bible as well?
Lev:22:18: Speak unto Aaron, and to his sons, and unto all the children of Israel, and say unto them, Whatsoever he be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers in Israel, that will offer his oblation for all his vows, and for all his freewill offerings, which they will offer unto the LORD for a burnt offering;
Lev:22:21: And whosoever offereth a sacrifice of peace offerings unto the LORD to accomplish his vow, or a freewill offering in beeves or sheep, it shall be perfect to be accepted; there shall be no blemish therein.
Lev:22:23: Either a bullock or a lamb that hath any thing superfluous or lacking in his parts, that mayest thou offer for a freewill offering; but for a vow it shall not be accepted.
Lev:23:38: Beside the sabbaths of the LORD, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the LORD.
Num:15:3: And will make an offering by fire unto the LORD, a burnt offering, or a sacrifice in performing a vow, or in a freewill offering, or in your solemn feasts, to make a sweet savour unto the LORD, of the herd, or of the flock:
Num:29:39: These things ye shall do unto the LORD in your set feasts, beside your vows, and your freewill offerings, for your burnt offerings, and for your meat offerings, and for your drink offerings, and for your peace offerings.
Deut:12:6: And thither ye shall bring your burnt offerings, and your sacrifices, and your tithes, and heave offerings of your hand, and your vows, and your freewill offerings, and the firstlings of your herds and of your flocks:
Deut:12:17: Thou mayest not eat within thy gates the tithe of thy corn, or of thy wine, or of thy oil, or the firstlings of thy herds or of thy flock, nor any of thy vows which thou vowest, nor thy freewill offerings, or heave offering of thine hand:
Deut:16:10: And thou shalt keep the feast of weeks unto the LORD thy God with a tribute of a freewill offering of thine hand, which thou shalt give unto the LORD thy God, according as the LORD thy God hath blessed thee:
Deut:23:23: That which is gone out of thy lips thou shalt keep and perform; even a freewill offering, according as thou hast vowed unto the LORD thy God, which thou hast promised with thy mouth.
2Chron:31:14: And Kore the son of Imnah the Levite, the porter toward the east, was over the freewill offerings of God, to distribute the oblations of the LORD, and the most holy things.
Ezra:1:4: And whosoever remaineth in any place where he sojourneth, let the men of his place help him with silver, and with gold, and with goods, and with beasts, beside the freewill offering for the house of God that is in Jerusalem.
Ezra:3:5: And afterward offered the continual burnt offering, both of the new moons, and of all the set feasts of the LORD that were consecrated, and of every one that willingly offered a freewill offering unto the LORD.
Ezra:7:13: I make a decree, that all they of the people of Israel, and of his priests and Levites, in my realm, which are minded of their own freewill to go up to Jerusalem, go with thee.
Ezra:7:16: And all the silver and gold that thou canst find in all the province of Babylon, with the freewill offering of the people, and of the priests, offering willingly for the house of their God which is in Jerusalem:
Ezra:8:28: And I said unto them, Ye are holy unto the LORD; the vessels are holy also; and the silver and the gold are a freewill offering unto the LORD God of your fathers.
Ps:119:108: Accept, I beseech thee, the freewill offerings of my mouth, O LORD, and teach me thy judgments.
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Bump for ChosenoneEdJ.
Looking up all those scriptures you quoted, do not use the term “freewill”. I will quote a few for your information…Quote Lev:22:18: …and for all his freewill offerings, which they will offer unto the LORD for a burnt offering;
The correct translation …and for all their voluntary offerings which they may bring near to Yahwey for an ascent offering.Quote Lev:22:21: And whosoever offereth a sacrifice of peace offerings unto the LORD to accomplish his vow, or a freewill offering in beeves or sheep, it shall be perfect to be accepted; there shall be no blemish therein.
Correct translation …When a man brings near a sacrifice of peace offerings to Yahwey to make an extraordinary vow or as a voluntary offering of the herd or of the flock,flawless shall it be for acceptance; no blemish at all shall be in it,All the other scriptures you refered to have not the words “freewill offering”, I will not try and print them all here because My source is not online so I can't “copy and paste”, and my typing is painfully slow.
I'm sure you will dispute the source I use as to correct translation, so perhaps we should agree to disagree, not much use arguing which translations reflect the “original scriptures”, because they no longer exist. Only ancient parchments such as the “dead sea scrolls”, and others that are used to reflect Gods original words.God Bless.
Quote (chosenone @ July 02 2010,09:09) EdJ.
Looking up all those scriptures you quoted, do not use the term “freewill”. I will quote a few for your information…Quote Lev:22:18: …and for all his freewill offerings, which they will offer unto the LORD for a burnt offering;
The correct translation …and for all their voluntary offerings which they may bring near to Yahwey for an ascent offering.Quote Lev:22:21: And whosoever offereth a sacrifice of peace offerings unto the LORD to accomplish his vow, or a freewill offering in beeves or sheep, it shall be perfect to be accepted; there shall be no blemish therein.
Correct translation …When a man brings near a sacrifice of peace offerings to Yahwey to make an extraordinary vow or as a voluntary offering of the herd or of the flock,flawless shall it be for acceptance; no blemish at all shall be in it,All the other scriptures you refered to have not the words “freewill offering”, I will not try and print them all here because My source is not online so I can't “copy and paste”, and my typing is painfully slow.
I'm sure you will dispute the source I use as to correct translation, so perhaps we should agree to disagree, not much use arguing which translations reflect the “original scriptures”, because they no longer exist. Only ancient parchments such as the “dead sea scrolls”, and others that are used to reflect Gods original words.God Bless.
Hi Chosenone,Someone who corrects should have his or her facts correct also.
Hebrew has No [W] sound, No [J] sound and the symbol ש is pronounced “Sh”.YHVH is God's Name transliterated into English; transliterated means sounds(phonics).
God's Name [יהוה] also translates directly into English as YHVH; as Hebrew lacks vowel representations!GOD’s most sacred Holy Name [יהוה] was given to us directly from the Hebrew language.
Correctly translating Hebrew into other languages can be difficult however.
Some basic linguistical rules need to be considered when translating Hebrew texts.
These include a lack of spacing between words, as a general rule has no written vowels
and the basic direction in which Hebrew is written (opposite: from right to left).
Hebrew word spacing is a modern advent that distinguishes one word from the next,
aiding both translators and multi-linguists alike. Unwritten “implied” vowel sounds
are a concern because, correct pronunciations of Hebrew words are at risk.GOD’s Name (יהוה) transliterates directly into English as YHVH because the Hebrew alphabet
lacks vowels. Hebrew has No [W] sound, No [J] sound and the symbol ש is pronounced “Sh”.[יהוה] GOD’s Name [י] Yod [ה] Ha [ו] Vav [ה] Hey …is pronounced YÄ-hä-vā & [יה] YÄ
Theomatics(Numbers referring to God) offers proof of this FACT as a second witness(Matt.18:16)…The “Divine=63” “Deity=63” of “The Bible=63” is “YHVH=63”!
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi EdJ.
Quote Someone who corrects should have his or her facts correct also.
Hebrew has No [W] sound, No [J] sound and the symbol ש is pronounced “Sh”.
Is it not a fact when a Hebrew text is translated into English, we DO have a [W] sound and a [J] sound. Just because the Hebrew language does not use these sounds, does not negate the fact that the translated word in English will, or can, have these sounds.Quote GOD’s Name (יהוה) transliterates directly into English as YHVH because the Hebrew alphabet
lacks vowels. Hebrew has No [W] sound, No [J] sound and the symbol ש is pronounced “Sh”.
Again, when translated into English, we do use sounds in accord of our English pronunciations. Hebrew uses no vowels, but the English language does. This does not mean when a Hebrew word is translated into English, that we do not use vowels.Quote [יהוה] GOD’s Name [י] Yod [ה] Ha [ו] Vav [ה] Hey …is pronounced YÄ-hä-vā & [יה] YÄ
Theomatics(Numbers referring to God) offers proof of this FACT as a second witness(Matt.18:16)…
In English we pronounce it “Yawhey”. We do not use Hebrew sounds, or Hebrew pronounciations.God Bless, Jerry.
Hi Chosenone,
The meaning of [Isaiah 53:12] is the ‘UNAUTHENTIC’ name!
Paul’s Greek-written manuscripts (fulfills the prophesy of Isaiah 53:12) having transcribed the
Hebrew name [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă into Greek as [Ιησους] Ē-Ā-Soos. Note the similarity in pronunciation
and Theomatic values for both Ē-Ā-Soos=74 and Jesus=74. While Theomatics(Gematria) keeps
mathematical connections in English, it tells nothing of GOD’s name [יה] YÄ being linguistically
distanced further and further from His Word by re-transcribing a previous translation. Specifically,
instead of transcribing the authentic Hebrew Name (יהשוע) YÄ-shü-ă, the King James linguistics
instead transcribed the Greek name for Jesus (Ιησους); which is UNAUTHENTIC because
it is a “translation of a translation”. [יהשוע] translates directly into “English” as [Joshua=74] YÄ-shü-ă.Jesus’ authentic Name [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă has a direct connection to GOD’s name [יה]
in that YÄ is the first part of Jesus’ “REAL” name. GOD’s name is not vocalized
in the English translation of the name Jesus and therefore misses the precise exactness
and direct authentic connection to God’s Hebrew name [יה] YÄ. Jesus’ Name in Hebrew
יהשוע means: (“YÄ is salvation” [יה]+[ישע]=[יהשוע]) the salvation of “GOD the Father”=117.
[יהשוע] “Jesus” REAL name authentically establishes [יהוה] “JEHOVAH” as the highest Name. (Psalm 83:18)(Phil. 2:9,11: Wherefore [Holy Spirit=151] has highly exalted [Jesus=74] giving Him a name
which is above every name, to the glory of [GOD The Father=117].) Neither is there salvation
in any other name: for there is no other name given among men (יהשוע), whereby we must be
saved. (Acts 4:12) People speaking fluent Hebrew know that in essence, [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă
means: “YÄ is Savior”. The Name of [GOD=26] is [יהוה=26] spoken as [YÄ=26]; and “YÄ-hä-vā”!“The Savior”=117 is “GOD The Father”=117, (117=”יהוה האלהים” YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL- ō-Hêêm)!
And He is Savior to all who walk the ground! “JEHOVAH GOD”; and there is ‘NO’ other!“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], and
the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgTo all: Anyone who thinks we don't have free will has MYTHED it. Ha Ha, a little humor. Bless all, TK
Tim……..I am still waiting for (ONE) Scripture that says we have a “FREE” Will (IN) us. Confusing a Liberty given us to exercise our (captivated) (influenced) Wills as us having a “FREE” WILL operating (IN) us is an error. IMO God plainly said “it is not within a man to direct his paths” it must be placed there, therefore David say direct my ways, put my feet in a straight path, . NO man will come unto God on His own , He must be drawn to Him, as Jesus plainly said “no man (can) come unto me unless the Father draw Him. If we have “FREE” wills then why would he say that, He simply would have said you can FREELY Chose to come unto me. But no he says you can not on your own why? is that not because your will will never on it own decide to truly come to God or Jesus. IMO
peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene
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