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- April 2, 2021 at 2:58 am#870030JodiParticipant
Hi LU,
YOU:
Can you show me these five words together in scripture:
YHVH our one God the Father
ME:
The NT does not specifically use the NAME of our “One God, the Father”, but the NT does directly reference His NAME that we do see repeatedly used throughout the OT. YHVH is His name and His Son’s name is Jesus.
Jesus’s name means YHVH is salvation, which is similar to Isaiah’s name that means YHVH has saved.
We also have John’s name that means YHVH is a gracious giver and Jeremiah’s name that means whom YHVH has appointed.
YHVH’s name means the Existing One
John 5:43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.
Isaiah 61: 1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD (YHVH) hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted*, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
Matthew 6:8 Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him. 9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. 10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
1 Cor 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Ephesians 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
Mal 2:10 Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?
Acts 17:28 For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. 29 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device. 30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: 31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.
Isaiah 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: 2 And the Spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; 3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears: 4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. 5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.
LU, we wait for the return of the Son of Man whom our One God the Father YHVH ordained to be our judge. When this son of Jesse returns to fulfill Isaiah’s prophecy, he thus does not judge by his own eyes and ears, he judges through the glory of the Spirit of YHVH our Father that is upon him.
Ephesians 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth😉
Matthew 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Matthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Isaiah 45:5 I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: 6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. 8 Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it.
Isaiah 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: 11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it. 12 Hearken unto me, ye stouthearted, that are far from righteousness: 13 I bring near my righteousness; it shall not be far off, and my salvation shall not tarry: and I will place salvation in Zion for Israel my glory.
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath MADE that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
John 10:25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father’s name, they bear witness of me.
Acts 10:40 Him God raised up the third day, and shewed him openly; 41 Not to all the people, but unto witnesses chosen before of God, even to us, who did eat and drink with him after he rose from the dead. 42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.
LU, when the Son of Man whom God ordained to be our judge returns he is STILL doing all things according to the Will of his God and our God, His Father and our Father. He is STILL doing all things in the name of our One God and Father YHVH. He is STILL doing all things through the Spirit of YHVH to which he had by promise received when he was raised from the dead.
Acts 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
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Isaiah 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: 2 And the Spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the Spirit of wisdom and understanding, the Spirit of counsel and might, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD; 3 And shall MAKE him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears: 4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. 5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins. 6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. 7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. 8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice’ den. 9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea. 10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious.
1 Chronicles 17: 11 And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go to be with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom. 12 He shall build me an house, and I will stablish his throne for ever. 13 I will be his father, and he shall be my son: and I will not take my mercy away from him, as I took it from him that was before thee: 14 But I will settle him in mine house and in my kingdom for ever: and his throne shall be established for evermore. 15 According to all these words, and according to all this vision, so did Nathan speak unto David. 16 And David the king came and sat before the LORD, and said, Who am I, O LORD God, and what is mine house, that thou hast brought me hitherto? 17 And yet this was a small thing in thine eyes, O God; for thou hast also spoken of thy servant’s house for a great while to come, and hast regarded me according to the estate of a man of high degree, O LORD God. 18 What can David speak more to thee for the honour of thy servant? for thou knowest thy servant. 19 O LORD, for thy servant’s sake, and according to thine own heart, hast thou done all this greatness, in making known all these great things. 20 O LORD, there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee, according to all that we have heard with our ears. 21 And what one nation in the earth is like thy people Israel, whom God went to redeem to be his own people, to make thee a name of greatness and terribleness, by driving out nations from before thy people, whom thou hast redeemed out of Egypt? 22 For thy people Israel didst thou make thine own people for ever; and thou, LORD, becamest their God. 23 Therefore now, LORD, let the thing that thou hast spoken concerning thy servant and concerning his house be established for ever, and do as thou hast said. 24 Let it even be established, that thy name may be magnified for ever, saying, The LORD of hosts is the God of Israel, even a God to Israel: and let the house of David thy servant be established before thee. 25 For thou, O my God, hast told thy servant that thou wilt build him an house: therefore thy servant hath found in his heart to pray before thee. 26 And now, LORD, thou art God, and hast promised this goodness unto thy servant: 27 Now therefore let it please thee to bless the house of thy servant, that it may be before thee for ever: for thou blessest, O LORD, and it shall be blessed for ever.
Read,
Acts 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day. 30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; 31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption. 32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
Acts 13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. 34 And as concerning that he raised him up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David. 35 Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Our One God and Father’s NAME is YHVH.
“O YHVH, there is none like thee, neither is there any God beside thee”
David’s seed IS NOT YHVH. David’s seed was raised from the dead and was given the Holy Spirit and the mercies of David BY YHVH, who is our ONE TRUE GOD THE FATHER.
April 2, 2021 at 4:11 am#870032JodiParticipantHi LU,
YOU:
Do you think that the “righteousness of one” is sufficient to cover our failures or do we need to attain our own righteousness to be at one with God?
ME:
Of course we are to obtain our own righteousness without it we’d go on sinning. We are an heir of God a JOINT heir with Christ (anointed of the Spirit) where those that are LED by the Spirit of God having inherited God’s Spirit are the Sons of God. We are to be made into the image of the heavenly MAN, the image of the Son so that he would be the firstborn of many brethren.
Ephesians 5:9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth)
Matthew 3:14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
Acts 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses. 33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Spirit, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear. …..13:33 God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.
John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him,Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God….5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
John 4:14 But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.
1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Mark 10:39 And they said unto him, We can. And Jesus said unto them,Ye shall indeed drink of the cup that I drink of; and with the baptism that I am baptized withal shall ye be baptized: 40 But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give; but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared.
Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
Galatians 5:5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.
The Spirit of God working in us brings us into faith to believe that we will fully drink of the cup that Christ drinks of, the Spirit at measure that causes us to walk in all of God’s ways just as the anointed Jesus does, by such we become joint heirs of God with him.
April 2, 2021 at 6:37 am#870033Danny DabbsParticipantHi Jodi,
Ok, maybe I was a bit awkward.
I’m sorry.
I will address your specific question.
(Please read the whole post. It’s not that much but very important)
I will go straight to the key verses.Romans 5:12 Therefore, as sin entered into the world through ONE MAN, and death through sin, so
death passed to all men because all sinned.Romans 5:15
But the free gift isn’t like the trespass. For if by the trespass of THE ONE the many died, much
more did the grace of God and the gift by the grace of the ONE MAN, JESUS CHRIST, abound to
the many.ONE MAN brought Sin into the world.
The other ONE MAN JESUS CHRIST brought righteousness, forgiveness and reconciliation.Why?
Romans 5:19 brings it to the point:
For as through the ONE MAN’S DISOBEDIENCE many were made sinners, even so through
the OBEDIENCE of THE ONE, many will be made righteous.An obedient second Adam was needed to bring us out of the mess.
Jesus was in fact that obedient second Adam!
Obedient even to the point of death – the horrible death of the cross!April 2, 2021 at 7:30 am#870035GeneBalthropParticipantDanny…..question, in what way did “one mans sin, make “all” men sinners? Why was I made a sinner , because of Adam, ? Better yet in what way , was I “made” a-sinner because of what Adam did? Please try to be clear on this question ok?
peace and love to you and yours………gene
April 2, 2021 at 8:03 am#870036GeneBalthropParticipantJodi…..Your post 8720027, explained it , thats when God blocked the way to the tree of life that was in the garden, it blocked mankind from ever finding the , “Tree”, (that which produces from self, life. So From that point in time on, God made all mankind sinners and concluded “all”, under sin. That he might have mercy on all, eventually.
All of this was done that we may come to realize , no one can possible live without sinning, on “their own ” , Without the Spirit of God continually guiding us in our hearts and minds. God himself is “the tree of life”. IMO
peace and love to you and yours………gene
April 2, 2021 at 8:53 am#870037LightenupParticipantHi Jodi,
Regarding this:
Hi LU,
YOU (LU):
Do you think that the “righteousness of one” is sufficient to cover our failures or do we need to attain our own righteousness to be at one with God?
ME (Jodi):
Of course we are to obtain our own righteousness without it we’d go on sinning.
I have good news for you…we don’t have to obtain our own righteousness.
As long as we are in this flesh, we will keep on sinning, hopefully not as a practice of sinning but we all will slip up occasionally, some more than others. The Father declares believer’s righteous unto salvation, ONLY because of the righteousness of the only begotten Son, who is called YHVH our Righteousness.
Here are the support verses:
https://southerndiscourse.com/righteousness/
Blessings, LU
April 2, 2021 at 9:00 am#870039LightenupParticipantJodi,
Do you believe that YHVH is both our one God and our one Lord? Or do you believe that YHVH is only our one God but not our one Lord?
April 2, 2021 at 3:58 pm#870043JodiParticipantHi Danny,
Thank you, that was most excellent and much appreciated that you took some time to expand!
Now I guess my question to you would be,
how was it that
Jesus was obedient and still is obedient and will return and be obedient?
Because he was a hybrid one of a kind being?
or
Because he was a human who received the Spirit without measure, an anointing (Chrio- to anoint and therefore be Christos -the anointed), a calling to righteousness where God held his hand and kept him for to fulfill His covenant and be for a light?
And if he was a human who was called to righteousness where he followed all of YHVH’s commands even going to the cross conquering the fear of death, that has held all other men into bondage, what does that imply for other humans? Can they also receive the Spirit and be called to righteousness and follow all of God’s ways?
Isn’t that our promise, our hope when the Son of Man returns in our Father’s glory? Isn’t that how we are heirs of God, joint heirs with Christ (the anointed of the Spirit) who was raised from the dead and he received the Spirit by promise?
April 3, 2021 at 2:24 am#870045LightenupParticipantJodi,
You asked Danny:
how was it that
Jesus was obedient and still is obedient and will return and be obedient?
Sorry for budding in here, Jesus is not the head of the YHVH unity, the head of the Unity is His Father. Of course He would obey the head of the YHVH Unity, He always has been a perfect son. He is obediently reigning over the whole earth at the moment.
Btw, the only begotten Son of God obediently founded the present earth and made the heavens and created all thing in heaven and on the earth which He founded.
The Unity of YHVH (Father, Son, together with their Spirit) alone created all things.
April 3, 2021 at 3:04 am#870046GeneBalthropParticipantJodi….A PERFECT POST to Danny, that is “exactly” right. When will these people start to see and understand that, Jesus is and was and always will be a human being, Just as he came in his only existence. Jesus is the “first” human being, to be begotten from the grave to eternal life. We have to achieve eternal life the exact same way he did, we must all be born again and then “kept” by God the Father for evermore. Without being “kept” by God no one can have eternal life. Because eternal life is being “kept” by God the Father, “forever.”
That is why it says, “may the LORD , bless you “and” “keep you”.
God the father is not only the giver and taker of life, He is also the “keeper”, of life as well. Fear GOD, and keep his commandments. Just as the man Jesus Christ our brother did.The “man” Jesus Christ, is our brother, a true human wittiness to this, and gave us testimony about it all. He is the first of “many”.
peace and love to you and yours……….gene
April 3, 2021 at 3:29 am#870047GeneBalthropParticipantTo all here , Jodi is a shining light here, who explains things in great detail, listen to her because the Spirit of truth is giving her, great understanding. Let the truth set you free from all these false Churches “indoctrination’s ” which, over the years have “corrupted ” the words and truth of God.
peace and love to you all and yours……….gene
April 3, 2021 at 4:23 am#870049LightenupParticipantGene,
You and Jodi don’t have a Bible translation that agrees with you. How can we have a Biblically based discussion when you believe all Bible translations are wrong?
You both live in your own world of delusion and twist the scriptures to conform to YOUR WORD, not God’s word. Wake up! There’s a reason you can’t find a Biblical translation that agrees with you!
April 3, 2021 at 6:17 am#870050JodiParticipantHi LU,
What you said contradicts so many scriptures, you very much so lean on your private interpretations rather than applying scripture with scripture.
Please explain Jesus being raised from the dead and receiving by promise the Holy Spirit? Please explain that likewise according to a promise unto Jesus’s father David, Jesus on that day was begotten by God and received the mercies promised unto David? Please explain why Paul identifies the Son according to prophecy, by the promises given to David?
Please explain why we are told that Jesus will sit on his father David’s throne according to the flesh?
Please explain how it is that we are to be judge by a human whom God ordained, and how we see that he as the promised son of Jesse judges us according to the Spirit of YHVH that is upon him?
Please explain how it is that we are told that YHVH’s word from the beginning was not that a hybrid one of a kind being would execute His purpose but a human being would, a human of the seed of David would fulfill all of YHVH’s will?
Please explain how it is we are told that it is a Son of Man returning in the glory of His Father and our Father, His God and our God?
Please explain why Paul says that each man is raised in an order and Christ is the first and those that are his will be raised at his return where we will be made into a heavenly man as he is?
Please explain how this passage fits your doctrine, Eph 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man (anthropos HUMAN BEING), unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
Please explain,
YHVH said that He was TO ANOINT (Chrio) the son of Jesse, a resting of the Spirit of YHVH upon him, but that is NOT why the son of Jesse is called THE ANOINTED (Christos)? Really???
Please explain what Jesus meant when he said that they are not of the world as he is not of the world and as he was sent out into the world they were sent out into the world?
Please explain, Jesus says that we will be baptized with the baptism that he was baptized with and that we will drink of the cup that he drinks of and Paul tells us that it is of the One Spirit that we are to drink of? Don’t forget that Jesus was raised having received by promise the Holy Spirit. Don’t forget that Jesus said to enter God’s kingdom a man must be born of the Spirit, and that when Jesus was raised according to a promise he was on that day begotten of God. Don’t forget that YHVH had promised David’s son that He WOULD settle this son into His House. Don’t forget it is the Son of Man that sits at YHVH’s right hand.
Please explain how we are heirs of God, JOINT HEIRS with Christ, what do we inherit from God that Jesus likewise inherited? Don’t forget that we are promised to receive the Spirit so that we can walk in all of God’s ways. Don’t forget that Jesus was raised from the dead receiving by promise the Holy Spirit.
We are directly told how it is we are made Sons of God, we are given the very image of what it means to be a Son, one who has the Spirit bearing witness to our spirit and one who is led by the Spirit. Now if we are likewise told that we are to be made in the image of an already existing Son so that he could become a firstborn of many brethren, we already know what the image of this Son is that we are to be made into, Paul directly already gave us this image! Do you deny this?
How strange it is that at the moment the Spirit descended upon Jesus to abode within him God declared this man to be His Son. How weird that Jesus is said to have left the river Jordan having been filled with the Spirit and that he was being LED by the Spirit. How weird that Jesus taught that God was in him and that He was following the will of God instead of following the will of his own spirit. How weird that we are told that Jesus went about doing good because God was in him. So weird isn’t it, as all these things equate to the VERY IMAGE OF WHAT MAKES ONE A SON OF GOD according to Paul. Even more weird is that Jesus was the son of David and God had promised that He would make David’s son into His own Son.
How weird that we see the son of Jesse, who is NOT FINISHED completing the will of YHVH, is also existing in the very image of a Son to which Paul described.
April 3, 2021 at 6:30 am#870052Danny DabbsParticipanthow was it that
Jesus was obedient and still is obedient and will return and be obedient?
Because he was a hybrid one of a kind being?
or
Because he was a human who received the Spirit without measure, an
anointing (Chrio- to anoint and therefore be Christos -the anointed), a calling
to righteousness where God held his hand and kept him for to fulfill His
covenant and be for a light?“Therefore, IN ALL THINGS HE HAD TO BE MADE LIKE HIS BRETHREN, that He might be
a merciful and faithful High Priest in things pertaining to God, to make
propitiation for the sins of the people.” Hebrews 2:17Jesus had to be exactly like one of us.
I admit to you that we are not hybrids.
Well, I need to rethink this.April 3, 2021 at 7:25 am#870054Danny DabbsParticipantDanny…..question, in what way did “one mans sin, make “all” men sinners? Why was I made a sinner , because of Adam, ? Better yet in what way , was I “made” a-sinner because of what Adam did? Please try to be clear on this question ok?
Romans 5:18
“So then as through one trespass, all men
were condemned; even so through one act of
righteousness, all men were justified to life.”April 3, 2021 at 8:14 am#870055BereanParticipantJodi
ROMANS 7:24
O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
[25] I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.Rom.8
[1] There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
[2] For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
[3] For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh,God sending HIS OWN Son
in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
[4] That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.You keep trying to misguide (unconsciously I hope) each other with a purely human Christ …..
RECONSIDERS THAT GOD GIVEN HIS OWN SON
HAVE YOU A JODI SON?
IF YES, AND WELL THIS SON IS YOUR OWN SON AND OF HIS FATHERWELL, ROMANS 8 TELLS US THAT GOD SENT HIS OWN SON.
IT IS THE OWN SON OF GOD WHO COME DOWN FROM HEAVEN TO DO THE WILL OF HIS OWN FATHER AND WAS MADE FLESH.
YOU MUST SO GENE ACCEPT THIS FACT IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND FURTHER THE DEPTH OF GOD’S LOVE FOR HUMANITY.GOD GIVEN HIS OWN SON WHO IS “THE IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE GOD” (COLOSSIANS 1:15)
THE REFLECTION OF THE FATHER’S GLORY AND HIS PERSON’S FOOTPRINT (Hebrews 1: 3)
“brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person”April 3, 2021 at 6:08 pm#870056LightenupParticipantJodi,
You said:
What you said contradicts so many scriptures, you very much so lean on your private interpretations rather than applying scripture with scripture.
I’ve said many things, what exactly are you referring to.
On a side note, I find it ironic that you think that I am leaning on my private interpretations when you have exposed yourself as one who knowingly disagrees with all Bible translations, most recently on Hebrews 1 where you change celestial messengers to earthly prophets. There is absolutely no Bible translation that you can go to for support. Your response to that was: “I would argue that translators followed already held doctrines when they rendered their translations and by such they got a lot of things wrong.”
Do you see the irony in your finger pointing at me that I am leaning on my own private interpretations?
April 3, 2021 at 6:38 pm#870057LightenupParticipantHi Jodi,
There are only a few things needed to answer most or all of your “Please explain…” post.
God the Father is the head of the YHVH Unity that includes the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Unity alone created the universe.
The Son emptied Himself of His divine majesty and took the form of a human servant, then was later highly exalted above every name by His own Father; that at the name of Jesus both angels and men, the living and the dead, should pay their adorations, and that every nation should confess that Jesus Christ is the Lord, to the glory of God the father.
YHVH is both God and Lord (not just God)…Jesus is the Lord.
I hope that helps.
LU
April 4, 2021 at 5:18 am#870071Danny DabbsParticipantDanny…..question, in what way did “one mans sin, make “all” men sinners? Why was I made a sinner , because of Adam, ? Better yet in what way , was I “made” a-sinner because of what Adam did? Please try to be clear on this question ok?
Well, I don’t have all the answers.
All I know is that the God of the Bible is just and righteous.April 4, 2021 at 7:16 pm#870074JodiParticipantHi LU,
YOU:
God the Father is the head of the YHVH Unity that includes the Son and the Holy Spirit. The Unity alone created the universe.
ME:
Isaiah 45:5 I am the LORD (YHVH), and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: 6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD (YHVH), and there is none else. 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD (YHVH) do all these things.
I Chronicles 17:10 And since the time that I commanded judges to be over my people Israel. Moreover I will subdue all thine enemies. Furthermore I tell thee that the LORD (YHVH) will build thee an house. 11 And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go to be with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom. 12 He shall build me an house, and I will stablish his throne for ever.13 I will be his father, and he shall be my son: and I will not take my mercy away from him, as I took it from him that was before thee: 14 But I will settle him in mine house and in my kingdom for ever: and his throne shall be established for evermore.
Isaiah 42:5 Thus saith God the LORD (YHVH), he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein: 6 I the LORD (YHVH) have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
LU, scripture speaks directly against you.
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