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Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 01 2012,17:01) Hi MB,
If scripture can say the Word was with God and the Word was God that won't fit into your boxes.
Truth is bigger than our boxes.
It fits in my “box” just nicely, Nick. Because I'm not blinded by the Trinitarian translation of “the Word was THE SAME GOD HE WAS WITH”.
I know it could mean the Word was “mighty”. I know it could mean the Word was “a god”. But people like you won't even entertain the possibilty of these LEGITIMATE translations of 1:1c, because you have been blinded by the god of this age. (The god of this age is yet another god who has been WITH God in the past.)
Hi MB,
We should rather hear what God says instead of trying to force divine wisdom into human logic.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2012,17:02) Hi MB,
When men started assigning the word BEING to the Spirit of God trinity folly was born.
Nno that is not how it started trinity is very old stuff ,but if God is NOT a SPIRIT BEING WHAT HIS HE
?he as a soul, character,will,power without measure,wisdom,knowledge without limits,LOVE,he ears ,talks,
Hi MB,
It is only by imposing the concept of a BEING on the Word that your confusion arises.
The Spirit is complex and we know almost nothing about God's waysQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 01 2012,17:06) Hi MB,
So you say two GODS?
or more?
1 Cor 8:5
For even if there are those called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many gods and many lords),How many does scripture say, Nick?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2012,17:05) Hi MB,
We should rather hear what God says instead of trying to force divine wisdom into human logic.
NJn 3:27 To this John replied, “A man can receive only what is given him from heaven.
Jn 3:28 You yourselves can testify that I said, ‘I am not the Christ but am sent ahead of him.’
Jn 3:29 The bride belongs to the bridegroom. The friend who attends the bridegroom waits and listens for him, and is full of joy when he hears the bridegroom’s voice. That joy is mine, and it is now complete.
Jn 3:30 He must become greater; I must become less.
Jn 3:31 “The one who comes from above is above all; the one who is from the earth belongs to the earth, and speaks as one from the earth. The one who comes from heaven is above all.DO YOU BELIEVE SCRIPTURES NICK
??I must make a correction. John 1:1c cannot be translated as “and the Word was mighty”, because that would require the adjectival form of the Greek word “theos”.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2012,17:08) Hi T,
Must we understand God or would it not be better to KNOW HIm?
Nthis also you have it wrong
IT IS WAY BETTER TO BE KNOWN BY GOD OR CHRIST BECAUSE IF YOU ARE NOT KNOWN TO EITHER OF THEM YOU SURELY DO NOT LIVE,
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 02 2012,17:15) Hi T,
Any stone you can find you throw.
But you still are way off.
Nprove it ,don't just send me opinions
Quote IT IS WAY BETTER TO BE KNOWN BY GOD OR CHRIST BECAUSE IF YOU ARE NOT KNOWN TO EITHER OF THEM YOU SURELY DO NOT LIVE, Bad understanding at the BEST.
Paganism at the WORST.
God Bless
MarlinQuote (Marlin1 @ Mar. 02 2012,19:33) Quote IT IS WAY BETTER TO BE KNOWN BY GOD OR CHRIST BECAUSE IF YOU ARE NOT KNOWN TO EITHER OF THEM YOU SURELY DO NOT LIVE, Bad understanding at the BEST.
Paganism at the WORST.
God Bless
Marlin
Marlinyou to have to prove it ,your opinion is just garbage
If you are known by one you are known by the other. For I and my Father are ONE.
So just as I said, bad understanding or Paganism (if you believe they are two different Spirits)
Hope this helps
Marlin
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