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  • #281588
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2012,18:15)
    Hi MB,
    The Spirit of God is one.


    One with God?

    #281590
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Yes MB,
    And one with the many diverse manifestations of the Spirit in creation.
    That all may be one in Him.

    #281593
    terraricca
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 29 2012,18:31)
    Hi T,
    What are you trying to say?
    I guess judgement is in there somewhere?


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    ASK YOURSELF WHAT IS IT THAT YOU TRY TO SAY

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 29 2012,18:15)
    Hi MB,
    The Spirit of God is one.

    #281594
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Jn 17.20-24
    Rom 12.5
    1 cor 6.17
    1 cor 12.12-20
    eph 2.18
    eph 4.4-6

    #281596
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2012,18:44)
    Yes MB,
    And one with the many diverse manifestations of the Spirit in creation.
    That all may be one in Him.


    Okay. But verses like John 17:20-24 speak of many different BEINGS becoming one in unity with God. It does not speak of many beings becoming God Himself, but unifying their will with God's will, and being led by God's Spirit.

    What I'm driving at is: Is the Spirit of God a separate being/person/individual from God the Father, to where it has it's own agenda, free will, mind, feelings, etc?

    #281600
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 27 2012,18:54)
    Hi MB,
    Is the Spirit of Elijah in John of the Spirit of God?


    No. All spirit is of God. There is no spirit said to be OF the Spirit of God. For some reason, you are making God's Spirit into a separate being, with spirits of its own.

    What scriptures teach you of such a thing?

    #281610
    NickHassan
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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 29 2012,11:58)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 28 2012,18:44)
    Yes MB,
    And one with the many diverse manifestations of the Spirit in creation.
    That all may be one in Him.


    Okay.  But verses like John 17:20-24 speak of many different BEINGS becoming one in unity with God.  It does not speak of many beings becoming God Himself, but unifying their will with God's will, and being led by God's Spirit.

    What I'm driving at is:  Is the Spirit of God a separate being/person/individual from God the Father, to where it has it's own agenda, free will, mind, feelings, etc?


    Hi MB,
    The Spirit of God is IN God and OF God.
    How could God have another BEING of HIM?

    God is ONE

    #281812
    mikeboll64
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    Okay then Nick. If that is the case, John 6:38 refutes your current understanding.

    38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me.

    If this was God speaking through Jesus, then who “sent Him”?

    If this was the Spirit of Christ speaking through Jesus, then how does something that is of God (a part of Him) have it's own will?

    It is clear to me that Jesus himself said these words, and therefore is the one who came down from heaven to do the will of his God.

    #281814
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Why would you expect the WORD to not serve God?
    The Spirit of Christ spoke.

    #281820
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    But see, now you're making them separate beings from God again.  If a spirit can speak of its own initiative, then it has its own mind, will, feelings, etc.  That makes it an individual BEING, separate from God. If the Word can SERVE God, then the Word must be something SEPARATE FROM God.

    #281822
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Separate beings?
    The Word was God.

    God's Spirit is interestingly complex and includes the Spirit of Christ.
    ONE with the Spirit of God in God.

    #281825
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 29 2012,19:34)
    Hi MB,
    Separate beings?
    The Word was God.


    Was the Word sent by God to do his own will? Or the will of God who sent him?

    #281826
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    The Word that was with God was made flesh and dwelt among us.
    Jesus Christ was in the form of God but emptied himself becoming as a servant.

    #281829
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Yes Nick. That is clearly what the scriptures teach. Now, could you address my point?

    #281830
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    The same relationship in the Spirit of God between God and the Word that existed in the beginning continues in Christ Jesus.
    “We will come to you..”

    #281837
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    The Spirit of the Father does not serve the Father.
    The Spirit of the Son does in the same Holy Spirit.

    #281838
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi mB,
    The Spirit of the Father does not help us worship the Father.[Rom8]
    The Spirit of the Son does in the same Holy Spirit.

    #281842
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    We can fellowship with the Father and the Son in the one Spirit.[2Jn9, 1 Jn1]

    #281844
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 01 2012,19:51)
    Hi MB,
    The same relationship in the Spirit of God between God and the Word that existed in the beginning continues in Christ Jesus.
    “We will come to you..”


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    The same relationship in the Spirit of God between God and the Word that existed in the beginning continues in Christ Jesus.

    you start to sound like Kathy

    relationship ,get your scriptures out ,because you start to trip on your own words

    #281845
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    2 Corinthians 13:14
    The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all.

    In that one Spirit we can commune with the Father and the Lord

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