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[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Yes men have feared death more than anything.
For the Jews the view of Sheol in scripture was not encouraging.
But we have the awaiting mansions of Christ if we die before his imminent return

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 25 2012,11:00)

Hi T, Yes men have feared death more than anything. For the Jews the view of Sheol in scripture was not encouraging. But we have the awaiting mansions of Christ if we die before his imminent return

N

it is all conditional,to our faithfulness to our God ,if not you have nothing

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
No if we are in Christ we have to reject him to lose our reward.
2 tim 2 11-13

The mercy of God is great.
Our striving cannot improve His blessing but reveals our doubts.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 25 2012,11:55)

Hi T, No if we are in Christ we have to reject him to lose our reward. 2 tim 2 11-13 The mercy of God is great. Our striving cannot improve His blessing but reveals our doubts.

N

again do not deceive yourself ;

2Ti 2:11 Here is a trustworthy saying:
If we died with him,
we will also live with him;
2Ti 2:12 IF WE ENDURE, (SEE THIS “IF”)
we will also reign with him.
If we disown him,
he will also disown us;
2Ti 2:13 if we are faithless,
he will remain faithful,
for he cannot disown himself.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 23 2012,20:29)

Hi MB, Quite so. And just as princes are born to be King they await their appointed time.

Princes are born princes. They are not said to be born kings. Jesus WAS said to have been born King of the Jews. And Savior. And Christ. And Lord.

Nick, I have no option but to believe what the scriptures teach me. If you do not believe those same scriptures, then we'll have little in common – as has been evidenced by our discussions.

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Yes but endurance is just survival.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
…prince of princes [Dan 8.25]
…Messiah the prince [Dan 9.25]
…the prince of life [Acts 3.15]
…a prince and a saviour [Acts 5.31]

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 25 2012,14:08)

Hi T, Yes but endurance is just survival.

N

2Ti 2:11 Here is a trustworthy saying:
If we died with him,

SEE THE “if”

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Yes martyrdom or dying in him is security.
Hold fast to what you have.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 24 2012,14:14)

Hi MB, …prince of princes [Dan 8.25] …Messiah the prince [Dan 9.25] …the prince of life [Acts 3.15] …a prince and a saviour [Acts 5.31]

Nick,

Matthew 2:2
and asked, “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star in the east and have come to worship him.”

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Indeed Jesus was born in Bethlehem.

No other claimant to his future kingdom existed.

And when he was anointed he preached it and men poured in.
Lk 16.16

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 24 2012,21:25)

No other claimant to his future kingdom existed.

So then Jesus was literally born king – just like the scripture says – right?

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Prophetically yes.
Just as the rest of Ps 2 had yet to happen.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 25 2012,10:52)

Hi MB, Prophetically yes. Just as the rest of Ps 2 had yet to happen.

No Nick,

The words, “where is the one who WAS BORN KING” do not speak of a prophecy.

And in Ps 2, it is a case of God HAS DONE this, and in the future, because of the “this” he already did, this other stuff WILL HAPPEN.

The fact that God already begot a Son unto Himself has no bearing on the things that haven't yet happened.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
The WORD was with God and the Word was God.
You are best equipped to decide when prophetic scripture applies?

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
The Law and the prophets were in force till the time of John[Lk16.16]
THEN the kingdom was preached.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 25 2012,11:08)

You are best equipped to decide when prophetic scripture applies?

Obviously better equipped than you are.

Nick, I'm truly tired of you. You say nothing of value. You spout little condescensions to everyone here, as if you are our great, knowledgable teacher or something. But you are just arrogant – that's all.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
Perhaps you may be.
But we serve truth and not ourselves do we not?

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 26 2012,11:17)

Hi MB, Perhaps you may be. But we serve truth and not ourselves do we not?

N

this would be like if we tell thing that are not true to the scriptures we would then be proliferate lies to all ,right

and this would of our own making right

so to prevent this of happening we should make sure that it is in scriptures and not our imagination right

yes to all,

[NickHassan]

Absolutely T,
All must be very careful.
But theology and logic tend to get elevated over scripture.

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