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[mikeboll64]

Yet that whole passage is about Jesus. He is mentioned by name in verse 11, and verse 14 is still talking about Jesus. It is saying that JESUS partook of flesh.

But you have even bigger problems with this chapter, Nick. You say the Word is God Himself, because that's how you illogically understand John 1:1, right?

So who did God give the children to in verse 13? Himself?

One little string, and the whole thing comes unraveled, huh Nick.

[NickHassan]

So you say MB,
But are you correct?

[mikeboll64]

I'm merely pointing out what the scripture actually says. Is the scripture correct, Nick?

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2012,18:46)

So you say MB, But are you correct?

Nick

why you don't tell him with scriptures that he is wrong ,???

[NickHassan]

Hi,
A body was prepared for the Word.
Hebrews 10:5
Therefore, when He comes into the world, He says, “ SACRIFICE AND OFFERING YOU HAVE NOT DESIRED, BUT A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED FOR ME;

[NickHassan]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2012,11:45)

Yet that whole passage is about Jesus.  He is mentioned by name in verse 11, and verse 14 is still talking about Jesus.  It is saying that JESUS partook of flesh. But you have even bigger problems with this chapter, Nick.  You say the Word is God Himself, because that's how you illogically understand John 1:1, right? So who did God give the children to in verse 13?  Himself? One little string, and the whole thing comes unraveled, huh Nick.

Hi MB,
What passage are you speaking of?

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2012,19:00)

Hi, A body was prepared for the Word. Hebrews 10:5 Therefore, when He comes into the world, He says, “ SACRIFICE AND OFFERING YOU HAVE NOT DESIRED, BUT A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED FOR ME;

nICK

Ps 98:1 Sing to the LORD a new song,
for he has done marvelous things;
his right hand and his holy arm
have worked salvation for him.
Ps 98:2 The LORD has made his salvation known
and revealed his righteousness to the nations.
Ps 98:3 He has remembered his love
and his faithfulness to the house of Israel;
all the ends of the earth have seen
the salvation of our God.

Rev 14:3 And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth.

JN 20:17 Jesus *said to her, “Stop clinging to Me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, ‘I ascend to My Father and your Father, and My God and your God.’ ”

Col 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
Col 1:16 For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him.
Col 1:17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy.
Col 1:19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him,

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2012,19:09)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2012,11:45) Yet that whole passage is about Jesus.  He is mentioned by name in verse 11, and verse 14 is still talking about Jesus.  It is saying that JESUS partook of flesh. But you have even bigger problems with this chapter, Nick.  You say the Word is God Himself, because that's how you illogically understand John 1:1, right? So who did God give the children to in verse 13?  Himself? One little string, and the whole thing comes unraveled, huh Nick. Hi MB, What passage are you speaking of?

Hebrews 2 that you brought up.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 20 2012,19:00)

Hi, A body was prepared for the Word. Hebrews 10:5 Therefore, when He comes into the world, He says, “ SACRIFICE AND OFFERING YOU HAVE NOT DESIRED, BUT A BODY YOU HAVE PREPARED FOR ME;

WHO prepared a body for WHO?

Did God prepare a body for Himself? If the Word was truly God Himself, as you say, then there is no other way.

[NickHassan]

Hi MB
Hebrews 2
Give Heed
1 For this reason we must pay much closer attention to [a]what we have heard, so that we do not drift away from it. 2 For if the word spoken through angels proved unalterable, and every transgression and disobedience received a just [c]penalty, 3 how will we escape if we neglect so great a salvation? [d]After it was at the first spoken through the Lord, it was confirmed to us by those who heard, 4 God also testifying with them, both by signs and wonders and by various [e]miracles and by [f]gifts of the Holy Spirit according to His own will.
Earth Subject to Man
5 For He did not subject to angels [g]the world to come, concerning which we are speaking. 6 But one has testified somewhere, saying,
“WHAT IS MAN, THAT YOU REMEMBER HIM?
OR THE SON OF MAN, THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HIM?
7 “YOU HAVE MADE HIM [h]FOR A LITTLE WHILE LOWER THAN THE ANGELS;
YOU HAVE CROWNED HIM WITH GLORY AND HONOR,
AND HAVE APPOINTED HIM OVER THE WORKS OF YOUR HANDS;
8 YOU HAVE PUT ALL THINGS IN SUBJECTION UNDER HIS FEET.”

For in subjecting all things to him, He left nothing that is not subject to him. But now we do not yet see all things subjected to him.

Jesus Briefly Humbled
9 But we do see Him who was made [j]for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone.
10 For it was fitting for Him, for whom are all things, and through whom are all things, in bringing many sons to glory, to perfect the [k]author of their salvation through sufferings. 11 For both He who sanctifies and those who are [l]sanctified are all from one Father; for which reason He is not ashamed to call them brethren, 12 saying,

“I WILL PROCLAIM YOUR NAME TO MY BRETHREN,
IN THE MIDST OF THE CONGREGATION I WILL SING YOUR PRAISE.”

13 And again,

“I WILL PUT MY TRUST IN HIM.”

And again,

“BEHOLD, I AND THE CHILDREN WHOM GOD HAS GIVEN ME.”

14 Therefore, since the children share in [m]flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, 15 and might free those who through fear of death were subject to slavery all their lives. 16 For assuredly He does not [n]give help to angels, but He gives help to the [o]descendant of Abraham. 17 Therefore, He [p]had to be made like His brethren in all things, so that He might become a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make propitiation for the sins of the people. 18 For since He Himself was tempted in that which He has suffered, He is able to come to the aid of those who are tempted.

Yes it speaks of the son of MAN.
God used this faithful servant vessel to give MEN an amazing hope.

He calls his brothers his children Jn21.5

[NickHassan]

Hi MB,
God prepared a body for the Word.
The body of Jesus already existed.

Jesus had been conceived, born brought up and disciplined by his Father[Heb12]

He became the Christ at the Jordan anointing

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 21 2012,09:05)

How many lords are there in existence?  One, like Paul says?  Or many, like Paul says?

Hi Mike,

You can't apply an answer form one question to a different question.

“I would have you know, that the head of every man
is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man;
and the head of Christ is God.” (1Cor.11:3)

In the “AKJV Bible” we have LORD,
Lord, and lord; and here's why…

Sarah called Abraham lord.
Christians call Jesus Lord.
We call God “The LORD”.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 21 2012,11:51)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2012,18:46) So you say MB, But are you correct? Nick why you don't tell him with scriptures that he is wrong ,???

Hi Pierre, I have, but he refuses to listen.

It is said: 'the the only thing more powerful than
the word of God are the traditions of men.' (Col.2:22)

The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.

“Ye are even my witnesses.
Is there 'a God' beside me? yea,
there is no God; I know not any.” (Is.44:8)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2012,20:26)

Hi MB, God prepared a body for the Word. The body of Jesus already existed. Jesus had been conceived, born brought up and disciplined by his Father[Heb12] He became the Christ at the Jordan anointing

Nick

are you try to say ;

that “the word” came into Christ ,but it was Christ that give his live is it ???as the son of God ? as the of man ? as the “the Word “?

So Christ is born a man ,but he give shelter to the WORD

what is it ??

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 21 2012,22:07)

Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 21 2012,11:51) Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 21 2012,18:46) So you say MB, But are you correct? Nick why you don't tell him with scriptures that he is wrong ,??? Hi Pierre, I have, but he refuses to listen. It is said: 'the the only thing more powerful than the word of God are the traditions of men.' (Col.2:22) The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate… distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit. “Ye are even my witnesses. Is there 'a God' beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.” (Is.44:8) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
The word came into Jesus anointing him as the Christ. HE WAS FOREVER CHANGED
Every time Christ is mentioned it is in reference to this anointing now as well as the man
Read 1 peter and you will see it is the suffering of CHRIST and the blood of CHRIST that was spilt.

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
The vessel [2Tim 2.30f]of the man Jesus became home to God's Spirit without measure[jn 3.34].
Jesus died [jn19.30]but the Spirit never left him[heb 13.5]

acts 2.22f

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 22 2012,01:22)

Hi T, The word came into Jesus anointing him as the Christ. HE WAS FOREVER CHANGED Every time Christ is mentioned it is in reference to this anointing now as well as the man Read 1 peter and you will see it is the suffering of CHRIST and the blood of CHRIST that was spilt.

Nick

are making this all thing up

Quote

Hi T, The word came into Jesus anointing him as the Christ. HE WAS FOREVER CHANGED Every time Christ is mentioned it is in reference to this anointing now as well as the man Read 1 peter and you will see it is the suffering of CHRIST and the blood of CHRIST that was spilt.

and this ;

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Hi T, The vessel [2Tim 2.30f]of the man Jesus became home to God's Spirit without measure[jn 3.34]. Jesus died [jn19.30]but the Spirit never left him[heb 13.5] acts 2.22f

1) their is no ;30 verse in Tim 2;
2)Jn 3:34 For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God, for God gives the Spirit without limit.(it does not say those words you say;BUT IT SAYS THAT HE AS BEEN SEND FROM GOD ,Jn 3:35 The Father loves the Son and has placed everything in his hands.

3)this i do not understand the connection;from Heb;13;5

Heb 13:4 Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral.
Heb 13:5 Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said,
“Never will I leave you;
never will I forsake you.”
Heb 13:6 So we say with confidence,
“The Lord is my helper; I will not be afraid.
What can man do to me?”
Heb 13:7 Remember your leaders, who spoke the word of God to you. Consider the outcome of their way of life and imitate their faith.

4)1Pe 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,

To God’s elect, strangers in the world, scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia and Bithynia,
1Pe 1:2 who have been chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by his blood:

Grace and peace be yours in abundance.

THIS LETTER IS ADDRESSED TO GOD'S ELECT ONES.

so you are one of the elect ones ,this in not according to God or is it Nick? are you not thinking ahead of your position

5)1Pe 1:3 Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! In his great mercy he has given us new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,

according to verse five it is Christ that has given us NEW BIRTH ,why is that Nick ?

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Yes it is 2 tim 2.20f
Thanks.

We should want to be clay vessels at least.

Is the promise of Acts 2.39 not applicable to you?

Christ Jesus [through his brothers] brings us into the kingdom.

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
God has said he will never leave or forsake his children.
His promises are wonderful and true.

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