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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 24 2010,14:16) Bump for Ed, since he got distracted by SF. 
JA would sure be interested in knowing that “Son of God” and “Satan” have the same number value, for he thinks Satan was God's “real” firstborn. Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 20 2010,19:43) I believe “Jesus“=74 was a real flesh and blood person who was filled with the HolySpirit,
Hi Ed,Then it was Jesus, not the Holy Spirit, who “became flesh” and dwelled among us, right?
mike
Hi Mike,If you're going to quote me, you need to be accurate; OK? “Son of God”=95 ≠ 'satan'=55
I have started a new thread for questions like JustAskin and SF propose…
Forum » BELIEVERS PLACE » Scripture & Biblical Doctrine » God's “three main feasts” fully explainedThe HolySpirit became fully flesh [ [ [ IN ] ] ] Jesus after his baptism. That is what John 1:14 means.
Let me ask you something; OK?
Did anyone see “Glory” in Jesus prior to his baptism by John the Baptist?Glory(77) = Christ(77)
John 1:14 And the Word(HolySpirit) was made flesh, and dwelt among us(starting at Jesus' baptism),
(and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.Mike: The Bible must be looked at as a whole…
Hebrews 7:28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but
the word of the oath(Isaiah 7:14), which was since the law(Gal.3:17),
maketh the Son(Jesus Christ), who is consecrated for evermore.“FATHER: The Word”(151) = “The LORD JEHOVAH”(151)
HolySpirit(151) bithed Jesus Christ(151)
JEHOVAH GOD(95) = Son of God(95)The HolySpirit shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee:
therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God. (Luke 1:35)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd:
Quote Hi Mike, If you're going to quote me, you need to be accurate; OK? “Son of God”=95 ≠ 'satan'=55
Hi Ed, if YOU'RE going to accuse me of messing up one of your numbers, YOU need to be accurate, OK? I have never quoted your numbers Ed. I was going off what SF said…..and it seems to me that SF actually quoted the posts in question. Ed:
Quote The HolySpirit became fully flesh [ [ [ IN ] ] ] Jesus after his baptism. That is what John 1:14 means.
Okay, so the flesh and blood person of Jesus from Nazareth actually consisted of TWO flesh and blood people then, right? Which one of the two was the only begotten Son of God?And as far as taking scripture as a whole, don't think your comment in “Pre-existent” went unnoticed. Just wait until this conversation develops here, Ed. You'll be able to see that “scriptures as a whole” blow your “Holy Spirit is the Word” theory out of the water.
But for right now, one step at a time.
peace and love,
mikeQuote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 25 2010,14:52) Ed: Quote Hi Mike, If you're going to quote me, you need to be accurate; OK? “Son of God”=95 ≠ 'satan'=55
Hi Ed, if YOU'RE going to accuse me of messing up one of your numbers, YOU need to be accurate, OK? I have never quoted your numbers Ed. I was going off what SF said…..and it seems to me that SF actually quoted the posts in question. Ed:
Quote The HolySpirit became fully flesh [ [ [ IN ] ] ] Jesus after his baptism. That is what John 1:14 means.
Okay, so the flesh and blood person of Jesus from Nazareth actually consisted of TWO flesh and blood people then, right? Which one of the two was the only begotten Son of God?And as far as taking scripture as a whole, don't think your comment in “Pre-existent” went unnoticed. Just wait until this conversation develops here, Ed. You'll be able to see that “scriptures as a whole” blow your “Holy Spirit is the Word” theory out of the water.
But for right now, one step at a time.
peace and love,
mike
HI Mike,Col:3:10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
Eph.4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
Once you have fully put on the new man, do you then consisted of TWO flesh and blood people?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2010,15:07) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 25 2010,14:52) Ed: Quote Hi Mike, If you're going to quote me, you need to be accurate; OK? “Son of God”=95 ≠ 'satan'=55
Hi Ed, if YOU'RE going to accuse me of messing up one of your numbers, YOU need to be accurate, OK? I have never quoted your numbers Ed. I was going off what SF said…..and it seems to me that SF actually quoted the posts in question. Ed:
Quote The HolySpirit became fully flesh [ [ [ IN ] ] ] Jesus after his baptism. That is what John 1:14 means.
Okay, so the flesh and blood person of Jesus from Nazareth actually consisted of TWO flesh and blood people then, right? Which one of the two was the only begotten Son of God?And as far as taking scripture as a whole, don't think your comment in “Pre-existent” went unnoticed. Just wait until this conversation develops here, Ed. You'll be able to see that “scriptures as a whole” blow your “Holy Spirit is the Word” theory out of the water.
But for right now, one step at a time.
peace and love,
mike
HI Mike,Col:3:10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
Eph.4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
Once you have fully put on the new man, do you then consisted of TWO flesh and blood people?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjyou quote scriptures you do not understand.
Col:3:10 And have put on the NEW man, which is renewed IN KNOWLEDGE after the image of him that created him:
DO YOU SEE IT NOW???IT IS THE KNOWLEDGE OF CHRIST AND GOD THAT BY APPLYING THE WORDS IN THE SCRIPTURES THAT MAKE YOU A NEW MAN.GET IT??
Eph.4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness
AND WEN YOU HAVE DONE YOU SELFCONTROL AND PRODUCE THE DEEDS OF TRUTH AND RIGHTEOUSNESS YOU NOW BECOME HOLY LIKE CHRIST LIKE THE APOSTLES LIKE YOUR FATHER IN HEAVEN.YOU GOT IT
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 23 2010,19:05) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 23 2010,23:17) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 23 2010,16:09) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 23 2010,21:06) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 23 2010,09:06) edj you say;;Hi Terraricca,
Was I not clear enough for you?
Doing God's will is what a Christian is;
and Christians have a wholesome tongue!God bless
ed j (Joshua 22:34)Doing God's will is what a Christian is; wrong ;it is what Christians DO, there is a difference ,i hope you understand the difference?
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,Please do explain the difference for us all at h-net!
God bless
ed j (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjlook in your numbers
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,I guess you admit then that there is no difference; huh?
ed j (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjtrue believers will not ask that question they know
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,When your opinion is asked for you don't give it,
BUT when it is not asked for is when you give it ? ? ?Why is that? Please explain?
Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2010,15:49) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 23 2010,19:05) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 23 2010,23:17) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 23 2010,16:09) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 23 2010,21:06) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 23 2010,09:06) edj you say;;Hi Terraricca,
Was I not clear enough for you?
Doing God's will is what a Christian is;
and Christians have a wholesome tongue!God bless
ed j (Joshua 22:34)Doing God's will is what a Christian is; wrong ;it is what Christians DO, there is a difference ,i hope you understand the difference?
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,Please do explain the difference for us all at h-net!
God bless
ed j (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjlook in your numbers
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,I guess you admit then that there is no difference; huh?
ed j (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjtrue believers will not ask that question they know
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,When your opinion is asked for you don't give it,
BUT when it is not asked for is when you give it ? ? ?Why is that? Please explain?
edjdid you still don't know ??
it is what Christians DO,
Lk 6:46 “Why do you call me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ and do not DO what I say?
Ex 12:24 “Obey these instructions as a lasting ordinance for you and your descendants
Ex 19:5 Now if you obey me fully and keep my covenant, then out of all nations you will be my treasured possession. Although the whole earth is mine,
Mt 23:3 So you must obey them and DO everything they tell you.
Lk 11:28 He replied, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and obey it.”
do you now understand ?
Pierre
HI Terraricca,
A Christian is one that does God's will,
that is what I said all along!eD j (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2010,17:08) HI Terraricca, A Christian is one that does God's will,
that is what I said all along!eD j (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjyou said;;Doing God's will is what a Christian( is)
look at the word you used ,it should have been ,DO,
Pierre
Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 26 2010,11:06) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2010,17:08) HI Terraricca, A Christian is one that does God's will,
that is what I said all along!eD j (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjyou said;;Doing God's will is what a Christian( is)
look at the word you used ,it should have been ,DO,
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,They mean the same thing!
Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2010,18:18) Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 26 2010,11:06) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2010,17:08) HI Terraricca, A Christian is one that does God's will,
that is what I said all along!eD j (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjyou said;;Doing God's will is what a Christian( is)
look at the word you used ,it should have been ,DO,
Pierre
Hi Terraricca,They mean the same thing!
edji am not a expert ,but i know the difference between being and doing,
your answers make you not believable,
Pierre
Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2010,08:07) HI Mike, Col:3:10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
Eph.4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
Once you have fully put on the new man, do you then consisted of TWO flesh and blood people?
Hi Ed,I don't get the comparison.
Paul speaks of giving up lying, cheating, stealing, etc. in favor of becoming a better person whose actions are more in line with the righteousness of God.“New self”, or “new man” only refers to becoming a better “you”.
mike
Hi Ed,
I had asked: Okay, so the flesh and blood person of Jesus from Nazareth actually consisted of TWO flesh and blood people then, right? Which one of the two was the only begotten Son of God?
You answered my questions with a question. Could you answer them DIRECTLY now?
mike
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 26 2010,11:36) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2010,08:07) HI Mike, Col:3:10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
Eph.4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
Once you have fully put on the new man, do you then consisted of TWO flesh and blood people?
Hi Ed,I don't get the comparison.
Paul speaks of giving up lying, cheating, stealing, etc. in favor of becoming a better person whose actions are more in line with the righteousness of God.“New self”, or “new man” only refers to becoming a better “you”.
mike
Hi Mike,You don't see the comparison I make?
When Jesus was himself baptized by the HolySpirit,
what makes you think that makes two flesh and blood people?
Putting on the new man is letting the HolySpirit have our flesh to represent God in.Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink;
but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the HolySpirit.God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2010,11:49) When Jesus was himself baptized by the HolySpirit,
what makes you think that makes two flesh and blood people?
Well Ed,Jesus was already a flesh and blood person before the Jordan, right? So if the Holy Spirit/Word BECAME a flesh and blood person in the person of Jesus, wouldn't the human body of Jesus be holding TWO flesh and blood people inside it?
Or did the Holy Spirit “meld” into one with Jesus?
mike
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 26 2010,13:09) Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2010,11:49) When Jesus was himself baptized by the HolySpirit,
what makes you think that makes two flesh and blood people?
Well Ed,Jesus was already a flesh and blood person before the Jordan, right? So if the Holy Spirit/Word BECAME a flesh and blood person in the person of Jesus, wouldn't the human body of Jesus be holding TWO flesh and blood people inside it?
Or did the Holy Spirit “meld” into one with Jesus?
mike
Hi Mike,The same way you do not become two
flesh and blood people when you put on the new man.Why is this so hard for you to understand?
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2010,13:38) Or did the Holy Spirit “meld” into one with Jesus?
Hi Mike,John 10:30 I and my Father are one.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Oct. 26 2010,13:38) Hi Mike, The same way you do not become two
flesh and blood people when you put on the new man.Why is this so hard for you to understand?
What is your answer to my question, Ed? Is your answer, “NO, Jesus remained one flesh and blood person.” ?mike
Hi Mike,
John 1:14 is referring to Jesus after his baptism by John,
this is what John 10:30 refers to as well.Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 26 2010,13:09) Or did the Holy Spirit “meld” into one with Jesus? John 10:30 I and my Father(HolySpirit) are one.
John 1:10 He(HolySpirit) was in the world,
and the world was made by him(HolySpirit),
and the world knew him(HolySpirit) not.John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word(HolySpirit),
and the Word was with God(HolySpirit),
and the Word was God(HolySpirit).Do you see the similarity in these two verses?
The world still does not recognize the “HolySpirit”!“Father: The Word” = “HolySpirit”
Acts 12:24 …”The Word”(HolySpirit) of God grew and multiplied.
John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee,
that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.Eph.4:4-6 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; One Lord,
one faith, one baptism, One God and Father of all, who
is above all, and through all, and in you all.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 28 2010,15:38) Okay Ed, Then which one was the “Son of God”? Jesus, or the Holy Spirit?
mike
HI Mike,The HolySpirit is GOD (Acts 5:3-4), and Jesus is God's Son (Luke 1:35) just as The Bible states.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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