For those who ‘think’ “the word” is a person

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  • #220022
    Ed J
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    Quote (Baker @ Oct. 16 2010,02:11)

    Ed, yes Gods Holy Spirit was also in Jesus, but that those not make The Word of God the Holy Spirit.  

    Peace And Love Irene


    Hi Irene,

    Why Not? Why do you have so much trouble understanding what The Bible is actually saying?
    Heb.1:1-2 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake(The Word)
    in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these
    last days spoken(The Word) unto us by his Son…

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #220037
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Baker @ Oct. 16 2010,02:11)
    Ed, I guess you don't believe that Christ preexisted either?
    Peace And Love Irene


    Hi Irene,

    Yes, Irene; we all preexisted our flesh!
    Thanks very much for your concern in this matter!
    2Tm.1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling,
    not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace,
    which was given [[[us]]] in Christ Jesus before the world began, (John 15:27)

                             “The Word” in us!

    John 15:27 And ye also shall bear witness (by the HolySpirit),
    because [[[ye]]] have been with me from the beginning.
    Acts 12:24 But “The word” of God grew and multiplied.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #220038
    terraricca
    Participant

    all

    Posted: Oct. 15 2010,22:23

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    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 16 2010,03:31)
    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 15 2010,19:44)
    edj

    yes we have to do all we can to be obedient to the scriptures the word of God,so we may be in the first resurection

    Pierre

    Hi Terraricca,

    Can't make up your mind now as to what “The Word” is;
    the Scriptures or a person?

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    edj

    you should know that THE WORD as per John 1;1 is Christ,

    now see and learn;;

    Ge 15:1 After this, THE WORD of the LORD came to Abram in a vision:
    “Do not be afraid, Abram.
    I am your shield,
    your very great reward

    Nu 3:16 So Moses counted them, as he was commanded by THE WORD of the LORD.
    Nu 3:51 Moses gave the redemption money to Aaron and his sons, as he was commanded by THE WORD of the LORD.

    1Sa 3:7 Now Samuel did not yet know the LORD? The WORD of the LORD had not yet been revealed to him.
    1Sa 15:10 Then the WORD of the LORD came to Samuel

    1Ki 13:9 For I was commanded by the word of the LORD? ‘You must not eat bread or drink water or return by the way you came

    1Ki 13:9 For I was commanded by the word of the LORD? ‘You must not eat bread or drink water or return by the way you came

    Ps 33:4 For the word of the LORD is right and true;
    he is faithful in all he does

    Jn 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

    THOSE ARE ENCONTERS WITH THE WORD OF GOD, NOT THE SCRIPTURES,

    NOW THIS ARE THE WORDS SPOKEN;1Ki 12:24 ‘This is what the LORD says: Do not go up to fight against your brothers, the Israelites. Go home, every one of you, for this is my doing.’ ” So they obeyed the word of the LORD and went home again, as the LORD had ordered

    1Ki 17:16 For the jar of flour was not used up and the jug of oil did not run dry, in keeping with the word of the LORD spoken by Elijah

    1Ch 10:13 Saul died because he was unfaithful to the LORD? he did not keep the word of the LORD and even consulted a medium for guidance

    2Ch 36:12 He did evil in the eyes of the LORD his God and did not humble himself before Jeremiah the prophet, who spoke the word of the LORD

    Ezr 1:1 In the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, in order to fulfill the word of the LORD spoken by Jeremiah, the LORD moved the heart of Cyrus king of Persia to make a proclamation throughout his realm and to put it in writing:

    Isa 28:14 Therefore hear the word of the LORD, you scoffers
    who rule this people in Jerusalem.

    Ac 11:1 The apostles and the brothers throughout Judea heard that the Gentiles also had received the word of God.
    Ac 12:24 But the word of God continued to increase and spread

    DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE EDJ CAN YOU ??

    Pierre

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    PR
    i am just a fisherman

    #220041
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Terraricca,

    When the Scripture says: The Word of the LORD came unto them,
    what makes you 'think' that means a person?
    Please do try to explain!

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #220166
    Baker
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 16 2010,05:08)
    Hi Terraricca,

    When the Scripture says: The Word of the LORD came unto them,
    what makes you 'think' that means a person?
    Please do try to explain!

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed, you simple don't want to know the truth, that is just to bad….Those Scriptures that Pierre gave shows clearly,that The Word of the LORD is a person. The Word of the LORD came to Samuel???? if The Word of the LORD is not a person, what you claim, how can that come to Samuel…..Someone had to bring it to Samuel…… Jesus who preexisted did as The Word of God. Just like you ignored Rev. 19:13-16 to bad for you……Peace Irene

    #220191
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 16 2010,12:08)
    Hi Terraricca,

    When the Scripture says: The Word of the LORD came unto them,
    what makes you 'think' that means a person?
    Please do try to explain!

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    it is the spirit who tells me that,but he never told me to have numbers,

    you have to believe that the scriptures are the word of God,

    and to me you have not proved this,(according to you quotes)

    #220221
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Baker @ Oct. 17 2010,08:46)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 16 2010,05:08)
    Hi Terraricca,

    When the Scripture says: The Word of the LORD came unto them,
    what makes you 'think' that means a person?
    Please do try to explain!

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed, you simple don't want to know the truth, that is just to bad….Those Scriptures that Pierre gave shows clearly,that The Word of the LORD is a person.  The Word of the LORD came to Samuel???? if The Word of the LORD is not a  person, what you claim, how can that come to Samuel…..Someone had to bring it to Samuel…… Jesus who preexisted did as The Word of God.  Just like you ignored Rev. 19:13-16 to bad for you……Peace Irene


    HI Irene,

    The Word is the HolySpirit!
    We agree the HolySpirit is not “a person”.
    The same way God's word can come to any prophet.
    How did God's word come to you, did someone bring it to you?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #220222
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 17 2010,10:21)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 16 2010,12:08)
    Hi Terraricca,

    When the Scripture says: The Word of the LORD came unto them,
    what makes you 'think' that means a person?
    Please do try to explain!

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    it is the spirit who tells me that,but  he never told me to have numbers,

    you have to believe that the scriptures are the word of God,

    and to me you have not proved this,(according to you quotes)


    Hi Terraricca,

    The spirit 'told you' than when “The Word” of the LORD
    came to the prophets, it was a person that came?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #220306
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 17 2010,10:21)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 16 2010,12:08)
    Hi Terraricca,

    When the Scripture says: The Word of the LORD came unto them,
    what makes you 'think' that means a person?
    Please do try to explain!

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    it is the spirit who tells me that,but  he never told me to have numbers,

    you have to believe that the scriptures are the word of God,

    and to me you have not proved this,(according to you quotes)

    ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Edit)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
    Hi Terraricca,

    The spirit 'told you' that when… “The Word” of the LORD came to the prophets …it was a person that came?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #220323
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 18 2010,21:23)

    Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 17 2010,10:21)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 16 2010,12:08)
    Hi Terraricca,

    When the Scripture says: The Word of the LORD came unto them,
    what makes you 'think' that means a person?
    Please do try to explain!

    Ed J
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    it is the spirit who tells me that,but  he never told me to have numbers,

    you have to believe that the scriptures are the word of God,

    and to me you have not proved this,(according to you quotes)

    ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Edit)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
    Hi Terraricca,

    The spirit 'told you' that when… “The Word” of the LORD came to the prophets …it was a person that came?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    edj

    why is it you always feed on others ,and then distributed to others,just like it is your knowledge??

    all those prophets either sit with the word (Jesus)
    or were in the spirit (vision) by the word (Jesus)

    understanding comes from believing

    Pierre

    #220345
    kerwin
    Participant

    Ed J.

    I believe all modern versions of scripture are flawed at one point or another since I have no proof that either those that translate them or transcribe the various manuscripts they are based on was guided by the Spirit of God.

    I do know that Jehovah is mentioned in verse 3 but that is not answer the question I asked. I asked for an interpretation of the AKJV of Psalms 138:2 that made logical sense and is consistent with the rest of scripture. There may be one but it is not coming to my mind.

    Ending the conversation does not enlighten me to what you understand that scripture to mean.

    #220346
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Kerwin,

    The AKJV can be proven to be accurate in Psalm 138:2…
    Psalm 138:2 I will worship toward thy holy temple, and praise thy name for thy loving-
    kindness and for thy truth: for thou hast magnified “thy word” above all thy name.
    …because most modern versions are void of God's name.

    Does this FACT has no bearing according to you?
    Do you actually think Psalm 138:2 means an elevation of Jesus rather than God's word?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #220388
    kerwin
    Participant

    Ed J.

    I do not believe it is directly speaking of Jesus. My problem is I cannot conceive of a person's word being elevated above themselves. I was hoping you could shed light on how that could be.

    #220395
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 19 2010,13:27)
    Ed J.

    I do not believe it is directly speaking of Jesus. My problem is I cannot conceive of a person's word being elevated above themselves.  I was hoping you could shed light on how that could be.


    Hi Kerwin,

    Elevated above HIS NAME, not himself.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #220402
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 15 2010,20:20)
    Hi Irene,

    Here are the FACTS, according to The Bible…

    “The Word”(Holy Spirit) became fully flesh(in Jesus) at Jesus baptism by John;
    He(Holy Spirit) led Jesus into the wilderness in Luke 4:1 and He(Holy Spirit)
    caused Jesus to return from the wilderness in Luke 4:14! He(Holy Spirit)
    also made Jesus aware that he(Jesus) would have to die on a cross for the sins of mankind!
    This is how “The Word”(Jesus’ Father) was made flesh, and dwelt among us. (John 14:9 / John 1:14)

    John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God:
    for God giveth not the [HolySpirit] by measure unto him(Jesus Christ).


    Hi Ed,

    It sounds like you think the Holy Spirit WAS Jesus, but at the same time, it was IN Jesus.

    Now which is it? Did the Holy Spirit BECOME flesh, which means Jesus WAS the Holy Spirit?

    Or was Jesus a real flesh and blood person who had the Holy Spirit IN him?

    peace and love,
    mike

    #220403
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 19 2010,14:27)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 15 2010,20:20)
    Hi Irene,

    Here are the FACTS, according to The Bible…

    “The Word”(Holy Spirit) became fully flesh(in Jesus) at Jesus baptism by John;
    He(Holy Spirit) led Jesus into the wilderness in Luke 4:1 and He(Holy Spirit)
    caused Jesus to return from the wilderness in Luke 4:14! He(Holy Spirit)
    also made Jesus aware that he(Jesus) would have to die on a cross for the sins of mankind!
    This is how “The Word”(Jesus’ Father) was made flesh, and dwelt among us. (John 14:9 / John 1:14)

    John 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God:
    for God giveth not the [HolySpirit] by measure unto him(Jesus Christ).


    Hi Ed,

    It sounds like you think the Holy Spirit WAS Jesus, but at the same time, it was IN Jesus.  

    Now which is it?  Did the Holy Spirit BECOME flesh, which means Jesus WAS the Holy Spirit?

    Or was Jesus a real flesh and blood person who had the Holy Spirit IN him?

    peace and love,
    mike


    Hi Mike,

    Hope this helps you to understand…

                         Gory(77) = Christ(77)

    John 1:14: And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us(in Jesus Christ),
    (and we beheld his glory(in Jesus), the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #220405
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    That doesn't make any sense Ed.

    If the Holy Spirit dwelt IN Jesus, then the Holy Spirit dwelt IN SOMEONE WHO WAS FLESH. That's a far cry from the Holy Spirit being a flesh and blood being itself, don't you think?

    mike

    #220406
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Mike,

    The “HolySpirit” became flesh in Jesus, now he becomes flesh in us.
    Rom.6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death:
    that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of
    the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #220407
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 19 2010,14:34)
    That doesn't make any sense Ed.

    If the Holy Spirit dwelt IN Jesus, then the Holy Spirit dwelt IN SOMEONE WHO WAS FLESH.  That's a far cry from the Holy Spirit being a flesh and blood being itself, don't you think?

    mike


    Hi Mike,

    Could you use different words,
    I don't follow what you are saying?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #220415
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 19 2010,14:35)
    The “HolySpirit” became flesh in Jesus, now he becomes flesh in us.


    Aren't “spirit” and “flesh” two completely different things? If “spirit” BECOMES “flesh”, then it is no longer “spirit”, right?

    mike

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