For the Lord your God is God of gods

[terraricca]

K

show me that i do not stick to scriptures ,don’t just say it ;show it show were in scriptures i failed to present the truth

[terraricca]

wakeup

I have explained the WORD OF GOD, but could not be understood by all of you.
Jesus said: Only HE whom the SON will reveal HIM.
Seek the God you suppose to worship in truth.

you don’t understand what you say here above ,and try to convince others ? in what ?

how do you think Jesus make his father known to others ?

[GeneBalthrop]

Terricca……I do not believe i am to smart for you, that simply is not true, i never thought that. What i will say though, is your just not being open minded to anything we say. Thats not our fault, we want to dialoge with you, but you start to personally attack us, when we disagree with you and present our views, then you ridclue us by saying we are to smart for you, then add futher insult by saying, you go by the bible, like we don’t.

Do you honestly think that is the kind of attitude we as christian brothers and sister should have toward each other. Look even if we disagree on somethings, we still can be kind and concederate toward each other can’t we?. I am sorry if i have offended you, that is not and never was my intent Pierre.

peace and love to you and yours. …………………gene

[kerwin]

T,

I already revealed it to you but you do not believe.

[terraricca]

k

I TOLD YOU YOU WHERE SMARTER THAN ME FOR YOU SEE THINGS I DO NOT

[kerwin]

T,

That has nothing to do with being smarter.  It has to do with getting in touch with your hunger and thirst to be righteous as God is righteous.  Jesus calls us to seek God’s kingdom and his righteousness.

[Wakeup]

It is written in scripture, all you have to do is seek.
A little guide for you. Seek sealed.

wakeup.

[terraricca]

K

T,

That has nothing to do with being smarter. It has to do with getting in touch with your hunger and thirst to be righteous as God is righteous. Jesus calls us to seek God’s kingdom and his righteousness.

DT 10:17 “ For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe.
PS 136:2 Give thanks to the God of gods,
For His lovingkindness is everlasting.
DA 2:47 The king answered Daniel and said, “Surely your God is a God of gods and a Lord of kings and a revealer of mysteries, since you have been able to reveal this mystery.”
DA 11:36 “Then the king will do as he pleases, and he will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will speak monstrous things against the God of gods; and he will prosper until the indignation is finished, for that which is decreed will be done.

WHO ARE THE GODS OVER WHICH THE TRUE GOD JEHOVAH HIS GOD OVER ?

T,

I already revealed it to you but you do not believe.

you have revealed me anything so far ;but have said many things that are of your personal opinions answer my question i do not need your opinion stick to the scriptures as it was written ,

thanks

[GeneBalthrop]

Terricca…….THEY ARE THE “FALSE” GOD’S, PEOPLE HAVE CREATED IN THEIR MINDES. THERE IS “ONLY” ONE “TRUE” GOD. GOD HIMSELF SAID THER WERE “NO” OTHER GOD’S, HE EVEN SAID HE LOOKED FOR ONE AND FOUND NONE, DOESEN’T THAT MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU? You say you go by the word of God, but then you deny his very own words. We need to put all the scriptures together to get the true balance to subjects, and if youput all tge scriptures together that speak about God, you will see that there is only one true God, and all other So-called God’s, big or little are FALSE GOD’S.

peace and love to you and yours Pierre …………… gene

[terraricca]

gene

Terricca…….THEY ARE THE “FALSE” GOD’S

please stop being stupid ;Obama his president of the usa would that mean that all the other existing presidents are false presidents ? do you really don’t understand that a tittle as many owners but not all are on top ;

are you so ignorant that you cannot understand that simple logic from scriptures ?

[kerwin]

T,

I pointed out that the context of Deuteronomy 17 is about righteousness and not about angels or foreign gods.   I also pointed out that god can mean someone that is like God in some way or ways and not like him in all ways.

I did not address the other passages you quoted because they have different context and as the context changes the meaning of words can change.  A polytheist who states “Jehovah you God is god of gods” can mean a whole different thing than a monotheist who states the same words.  Daniel 2:7 may be an example of the earlier though I am not absolutely sure the king was a polytheist.

[GeneBalthrop]

TERRICCA….There is a big difference between what a president is and what a God is. For one, a true GOD IS A DEITY, A PRESIDENT IS NOT, God can create things into existence out of nothing, a president can’t. The true God is omnipresent, all powerful, worthy of worship, a president is not worthy of worship. Not a single scripture call a man a God, not even one. False GOD’S YES BUT TRUE OR REAL GOD’s NO NOT ONE.

God himself said this, “FOR GOD IS NOT A MAN THAT HE SHOULD LIE, NOR A SON OF MAN THAT HE SHOULD SIN.”

DID YOU NOTICE HE SAID A GOD IS “NOT” A “SON OF MAN” ,JESUS SAID HE WAS “THE SON OF MAN”, AROUND 80 TIMES IN SCRIPTURES. So that rules him out.

Pierre why call me STUPID, because I disagree with your personal inturpetion of what scriptures say. Do i do that to you?

peace and love to you and yours. ………………gene

[kerwin]

To whomever it concerns,

1. (plural)

   1. rulers, judges

   2. divine ones

   3. angels

   4. gods

2. (plural intensive – singular meaning)

   1. god, goddess

   2. godlike one

   3. works or special possessions of God

   4. the (true) God

   5. God

These are what the blue letter bible claim the uses of elohim are in Scripture but some here disagree.  They say that despite these experts the Hebrew word elohim does not mean human rulers or judges.  They say despite these experts testimony it does not mean godlike one.  They make these claims but do not offer any real evidence to support their claim.  Why do they choose to do so?  What spirit is driving them?  Is it from God or from the Devil?

[terraricca]

K

These are what the blue letter bible claim the uses of elohim are in Scripture but some here disagree. They say that despite these experts the Hebrew word elohim does not mean human rulers or judges. They say despite these experts testimony it does not mean godlike one. They make these claims but do not offer any real evidence to support their claim. Why do they choose to do so? What spirit is driving them? Is it from God or from the Devil?

i am so tired ; when God himself says he HIS THE GOD OF GODS ; WOULD THAT MEAN HE IS A MAN FROM MAN ;OR MAN ABOVE MAN and so all those scriptures do not talk about God almighty jehovah is that what you are telling me ?????????????

YOU REALLY DON’T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I TRY TO TELL YOU FOR YEARS ,

[terraricca]

gene

you mist the point ,you cannot see simple things ,for you mix all things in one basket ,

[terraricca]

K

T,

I pointed out that the context of Deuteronomy 17 is about righteousness and not about angels or foreign gods. I also pointed out that god can mean someone that is like God in some way or ways and not like him in all ways.

I did not address the other passages you quoted because they have different context and as the context changes the meaning of words can change. A polytheist who states “Jehovah you God is god of gods” can mean a whole different thing than a monotheist who states the same words. Daniel 2:7 may be an example of the earlier though I am not absolutely sure the king was a polytheist.

then you show scriptures and beside it you show what it should be okay ;see it when you done

[GeneBalthrop]

Terricca…….i am only showing what GOD HIMSELF SAID, HE CLEARLY SAID HE LOOKED FOR OTHER GOD’S AND FOUND NONE. EXCEPT FOR “FALSE” GOD’S.

Exo 34:13…. BUT you shall destory their alters, brea their images, and cut down their goves: For thou shall worship no other god; for the LORD, WHOSE NAME IS JEALOUS GOD. 15, Least you makea covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice; 16, and you and their daughters, unto thy sons go a whoring, after their gods. 17 You shall make you no molten gods.

peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene

[GeneBalthrop]

Terrica……as i have said before,the word GOD, does not represent a person at all, no persons, or things.
The word GOD,REPRESENTS A “RELATIONSHIP” WITH ANYTHING THAT EXSTS, THEREFORE ANYTHING CAN BE A GOD TO ANYONE, THERE CAR, THEIR HOME, THEIR WIFE , THEIR MONEY. It makes no difference what it is, becuse the word God, IS “ONLY” DESCRIBING A “RELATIONSHIP”, NOT ANY BEING OR THING AT ALL. JUST THE RELATIONSHIP YOU HAVE WITH THOSE THINGS.

WE “ONLY” HAVE ONE THING THAT HAS THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH “US” (true believers) THAT IS, THE LORD, “YEHWEH”, HE AlONE IS THE “ONLY” TRUE GOD, FOR US, WHO BELIEVE THAT IS, AND WE RECONIZE NO OTHER SO-CALLED GOD’S, BIG OR LITTLE, They are “ALL” “FALSE” GOD’S TO US WHO BELIEVE IN THE “ONLY” TRUE GOD.

TO ACT LIKE THEIR ARE OTHER “True” God’s, big or little is nothing but pure, IDOLATRY. And NO IDOLATAR, belongs to the KINGDOM OF GOD. You can take that to the bank Pierre, you have followed Mike into the same rabbit whole he went into. IMO

peace and love to you and yours. ……………….gene

[kerwin]

T,

I am discussion one Scripture,  Deuteronomy 17.  I am taking about the context, them meaning of words, and basically the language used in that passage.  I have use a source to reveal the language use in Scripture.   The last is the third post down on this page, page 3.  You can see for yourself that experts agree that elohim is used to mean among other things 1) rulers or judges, 2) godlike one.

As to a passage in Scripture

Psalm 82:6Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

⁶ I have said, Ye are gods;
and all of you are children of the most High.

At this point

1) You can disagree with the experts.  If you have no evidence then it is just disbelief that is not based on evidence.

2) You can choose to disregard the context.    An action that is once more evidence of disbelief

You have not made a case I understand for your disbelief.  All I understand of what you say sounds like an emotional response.

[GeneBalthrop]

Terricca….. Psa 82:6 I say you are God’s; and all of you are childern of the most high.

This is written in a possessive sense. Another words they were God’s own people and as a result they we’re all considered considered his childern. He was not addressing them as God’s themselves. That would be going against his very own words if that were the case. Why would he tell them to have no other God’s besides him and then turn around and call them, themselves God’s.

Pierre, all of this stemed from Mike’s false teachings about other TRUE GOD’S, you bought into it brother, along with some other false teachings of his. Mike needed us to believe in more then one God, because of his teaching that Jesus was a preexiting God, and in that way push his John 1:1 dogmas of JESUS being the God mentioned there. So he need to create the possibility of more then one true God by introducing the big and little God thing. I have proven here before that All scripture was originally written in upper case lettering, and there was no wording of a big God and a little god, in any of our original texts.

peace and love to you and yours Pierre………………..gene

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