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- March 27, 2015 at 11:43 pm#791814sonofGodParticipant
It is clear that God speaks of there being other gods.
Who are these gods? Are they all good or are they all bad or some good some bad?
Certainly, God gives the title of god to men. He even speaks of He making Moses a god to Pharaoh. Exodus 7:1
the word “god” or elohim or theos when defined as being a title not a name of one being only clarifies many issues.
For indeed Jesus is given the title of “god” in Hebrews 1:8 but that is simply a title of respect like Sarah calling Abraham lord, I Peter 3:6
One definition for god that I find works however it is used in scripture is as follows: a title given to someone of perceived or genuine superiority in power, authority or function
Thus god is used of the Creator, the God, of Moses, of believers with responsibility and authority to represent God, the children of the most high God, Jesus Christ and false gods, whether they be idols or the devils they represent
March 28, 2015 at 2:21 am#791829kerwinParticipantSonofGod,
That is what I hear.
March 28, 2015 at 2:58 am#791830GeneBalthropParticipantSonofgod……..GOD TOLD MOSES HE WOULD BE IN GOD PLACE TO ARONAND THE PEOPLE OF ISREAL, HENEVE SAID HE WAS A GOD AT ALL.
DEU 32:15-21
21..THEY HAVE MOVED ME TO JEALOUSY with that which is “NOT GOD”; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are “NOT A PEOPLE”; i will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.
Notice what GOD SAID , HE WOULD DO WHAT? PROVOKE THEM WITH ANGE ALSO, WITH THOSE WHICH ARE “NOT” A PEOPLE AND A FOOLISH NATION , WHY BECAUSE THEY PROVKED HIM TO JEALIOUSELY AND ANGE BY CALLING THOSE THINGS GOD, THAT ARE “NOT” GODS.
peace and love to you and yours. ……………….gene
THERE ARE NO OTHER GOD’S BUT THE ONE AND “ONLY” TRUE GOD. HOW FAR WILL YOU PEOPLE GO TO IGNOR THE WORDS OF GOD AND JESUS CHRIST, BE CAREFUL LEST YOU PROVOKE THE HOLY AND “ONLY” TRUE GOD TO ANGER AND HE TURN AGAINST YOU and DEAL WITH YOUR FOLLY, ALSO.peace and love to you and yours. ……………..gene
March 28, 2015 at 6:43 am#791831NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
You cannot stand the use of god as scripture uses the word.
And of course you must be right
March 28, 2015 at 9:04 am#791832GeneBalthropParticipantNick……ARE YOU ANGRY AT ME OR YOU SIMPLY CANNOT ENDURE THE WORD OF GOD? THOSE QUOTED SCRIPTURES WERE NOT MY WORDS. I PERSONELLY DON’T CARE IF YOU CAN’T STAND THE TRUTH,YOU ONLY HARMING YOURSELF. IMO
peace and love to you and yours. ………………gene
March 28, 2015 at 9:28 am#791834bodhithartaParticipantIt seems the point is this: There is only ONE TRUE GOD and therefore all references of anyone or anything being called God is metaphor or analogy it can be anything but be TRUE according to the scriptures but this goes also for the term Son of God it has no literal meaning because God does not have children in the sense that we have children so it is a term of endearment and rank of superiority, this is why Jesus corrected the jews when he said:
John 10:34-3621st Century King James Version (KJ21)
34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said “Ye are gods”’?
35 If He called them gods unto whom the Word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken),
36 do ye say of Him whom the Father hath sanctified and sent into the world, ‘Thou blasphemest,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’?
Jesus is clearly saying how can he blaspheme when he is not even taking the privilege of calling himself what others have been called in the past, he would never dare call himself God
March 28, 2015 at 9:32 am#791835NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
No point in wasting energy on a man committed to teaching his own ideas and resistant to the truth of scripture
March 28, 2015 at 9:35 am#791836NickHassanParticipantHi GB
LIFE IS IN THE SPIRIT OF MAN Eternal life??
AND THAT SPIRIT IS OF GOD,OR HAVEN’T YOU READ WHERE SCRIPTURE SAY IF GOD WERE TO RETRACT HIS SPIRIT “ALL” FLESH WOULD DIE TOGETHER ?
The spirit of man comes from God and returns to God.
The Spirit of eternal life was offered by Jesus in Jn7 but you rob yourself by denying this.
March 28, 2015 at 9:36 am#791837kerwinParticipantBodhitharta,
I agree but that understanding troubles Gene and so he denies it even though he has no basis for that denial.
March 28, 2015 at 9:37 am#791838NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
You are so wrapped up in carnal life you have missed the point of the mission of Jesus offering eternal life in the Spirit.
March 28, 2015 at 10:11 am#791840GeneBalthropParticipantNICK…….NOW YOU KNOW WHAT I AM WRAPED UP IN? AS I HAVE SAID YOU HAVEN’T A CLUE OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, BECAUSE I COMPLETERLY DISAGREE WITH YOU, ON THIS DOES NOT MEAN, I AM WRAPED UP IN CARNAL LIVING AND MISSED ANYTHING. BUT YOUR CARNAL ACCUSITORY SPIRIT EXIBITS A SPRITUAL ATRIBUTE THAT SEEMS TO HAVE POSSED YOU. Look i could careless what you think about me, i don’t have to answer to a WANTA BE KNOW IT ALL LIKE YOURSELF.
YOU OFFER NO RATIONAL DIALOGUE AT ALL, JUST FOAMING OFF AT THE MOUTH WITH AN ACCUSITORY SPIRIT. SAYING NOTHING THAT PROVES ANYTHING TO AMYONE.
peace and love to you and yours. …………………gene
March 28, 2015 at 10:56 am#791843kerwinParticipantGene,
You are in denial which means that unconscious and conscious processes in you see a reason why excepting the facts that the word god has more than one definition is you is an immediate threat to you while the threat that if you do not repent is a lesser and more distant threat to you.
I hope you have to adjust to the truth but urge you to seek to adjust quickly because no one knows the times.
Here is a blog from Dr. Sanity about denial.
March 28, 2015 at 11:12 am#791846bodhithartaParticipantHi Kerwin
It seems to me that Gene is saying the same thing, that there are no other gods, right?
March 29, 2015 at 3:43 am#791910GeneBalthropParticipantBD….. KERWIN AND NICK TAL OUT OF BOTH SIDES OF THEIR MOUTHS, ON THE ONE HAND THEY WILL SAY THERE IS “ONLY ONE TRUE” GOD, OUT OF THE OTHER SIDE THEY BELIEVE IN UNMUERBAL “little” gods, they change the size of the wording of god, from upper case to lower case, to try to make the word seem different in meaning, THEY DO NOT REALIZE THAT ALL ORIGINAL TEXT WERE WRITTEN IN UPPER CASE WRITING, AND THE WORDIN ORIGINALLY CARRED THE SAME MEANING.
SO THEY LIE, THEY HAVE NOT ACCEPTED THAT THERE IS TRULY “ONLY” “ONE” “TRUE” GOD. THEY BELIEVE IN THE MULTIPLISITY OF GOD’S. Therefore they are not of the truth. THEY ARE UNABLE TO TELL WHEN JESUS SAID, THEY WERE GOD’S HE WAS REFERENCINGS THAT THEY WERE GOD’S POSSESIONS, TO WHOM GOD SENT HIS WORDS TO.
NO THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE WAY THEY VIEW GOD AND ME, THAT IS FORSURE .IMO
peace and love to you and yours. ……………….gene
March 29, 2015 at 6:38 am#791925kerwinParticipantbodhitharta,
Hi Kerwin
It seems to me that Gene is saying the same thing, that there are no other gods, right?
His error is not in the amount of Gods he confesses but rather in corrupting the truth by denying parts of the truth. In this case he corrupts the meaning of the word god and so corrupts verses of Scripture that contain it. Sometime the corruption does no significant harm that I can see but that is not always the case.
March 29, 2015 at 7:10 am#791930NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
WE lie?
And you call us accusers?
March 30, 2015 at 12:13 pm#792025GeneBalthropParticipantNick…..well then let’s straighten it out of , do you believe there is ONLY “ONE” TRUE GOD” or NOT? If you say yes I will appoligze if not then you are lying against what JESUS said. And it will be JESUS’ own words that calls you a liar not me.
peace and love to you and yours……………..gene
March 30, 2015 at 12:22 pm#792027NickHassanParticipantHi BD,
Why work from theory?
Do you not know the Father and the Son?
March 30, 2015 at 12:26 pm#792029GeneBalthropParticipantKerwin…….Well let’s talk about how the word GOD, has more then one definition, explain those definitions to us if you truly know of any. The only thing I recall you ever saying that the word just means power, and if that is what you and Nick believe the anything that has power is a God, right”
Come on and step up to the plate put your definitions for the word God, for God the Father, JESUS, and us all to see. Simply write them out clearly for us all to see and understand.
I say if there is ONLY ONE “TRUE” GOD, then ALL OTHER ARE “FALSE” Gods. That is my position, now let’s see your and Nicks, maybe he can help you find others Gods for us all to believe in.
peace and love to you and yours…………gene
March 30, 2015 at 12:32 pm#792032NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
Do you not fellowship with the Father and the Son?
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