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[jammin]

yes you are not president, you are not master or whatever but all of you have the same form or nature and that is HUMAN or MAN.

as a man, you are not almighty, you are not all knowing, you are not all powerful etc.
even if you are the president of the US, still you are not all powerful, all knowing, etc etc. bec human nature is limited!

but the nature of GOD is not the same as human. GOD is all knwing , all powerful, eternal, etc etc.

study hard boy LOL

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Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,19:11)

yes you are not president, you are not master or whatever but all of you have the same form or nature and that is HUMAN or MAN. as a man, you are not almighty, you are not all knowing, you are not all powerful etc. even if you are the president of the US, still you are not all powerful, all knowing, etc etc. bec human nature is limited! but the nature of GOD is not the same as human. GOD is all knwing , all powerful, eternal, etc etc. study hard boy LOL

J

yes it is the same with God almithy ,the nature is one thing the power is another ,

the reason why Christ has the same nature than his father nature( not power)is because God the father has created him directly while all other creation was done through Christ the son,

so that none other than Christ has the nature of God ,but all are more related to Christ than God in their nature ,

this is what Paul explained in Col;1 14-20

it takes understanding to know the power and love of God and Christ ,

but christ is a god but diffinetly not God almithy

[jammin]

no. the nature of GOD is all powerful and that is the nature of the father and the son.
obama is a president of the US. is he all powerful by nature?
yes or no?

[terraricca]

Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,19:28)

no. the nature of GOD is all powerful and that is the nature of the father and the son. obama is a president of the US. is he all powerful by nature? yes or no?

J

you have to stop to blind yourself on the nature of things ,

in the sea their are many fish not all are one ton you have many of one onze,and not all are 10 foot long some are one inch long

BUT THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME NATURE,THEY ARE FISH,

WHAT YOU TRY TO CONVINCE US WITH IS THAT GOD ALMITHY HAS CREATED A SON EQUAL TO HIMSELF

THIS IS NOT WHAT SCRIPTURES ARE TEACHING

[942767]

Quote (jammin @ June 13 2012,11:42)

thomas said Jesus is GOD. paul said he has the form of GOD, meaning he is GOD greek says monogenes theos – God the only son. i believe what the bible says

Jessu said that the was ascending to his Father and the disciples Father and to his God and our God.

Here it is, do your believe Jesus?

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11 Mary stood outside near the tomb, crying. As she cried, she bent down to look into the tomb. 12 She saw two angels dressed in white, seated where the body of Jesus had been, one at the head and one at the foot. 13 The angels asked her, “Woman, why are you crying?” She replied, “They have taken away my Lord, and I don’t know where they’ve put him.” 14 As soon as she had said this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, but she didn’t know it was Jesus. 15 Jesus said to her, “Woman, why are you crying? Who are you looking for?” Thinking he was the gardener, she replied, “Sir, if you have carried him away, tell me where you have put him and I will get him.” 16 Jesus said to her, “Mary.” She turned and said to him in Aramaic, “Rabbouni” (which means Teacher). 17 Jesus said to her, “Don’t hold on to me, for I haven’t yet gone up to my Father. Go to my brothers and sisters and tell them, ‘I’m going up to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.

(CEB)

From your favorite translation. So, what do you say, Do you believe Jesus or not?

Love in Christ,
Marty

[jammin]

i believe that.
i believe that jesus called the father GOD

the bible also says that the father called his son GOD

Hebrews 1:8

Common English Bible (CEB)

8 But he says to his Son,

God, your throne is forever
and your kingdom’s scepter is a rod of justice.

[942767]

Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,13:21)

i believe that. i believe that jesus called the father GOD the bible also says that the father called his son GOD Hebrews 1:8 Common English Bible (CEB) 8 But he says to his Son, God, your throne is forever        and your kingdom’s scepter is a rod of justice.

Hi Jammin:

Yes, of course, Jesus called God his Father, but he also, said that he was returning to his Father and to our Father and to his God and our God, and by this statement he said that he is not our God.

And God does call his Son God, but He said to “the Son” he saith, thy throne O God (this is capitalized by the translators, and so, I capitalized it, but there were no capital letters in the manuscripts)….

In John 10 we have this:

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34 Jesus replied, “Isn’t it written in your Law, I have said, you are gods?” 35 Scripture calls those to whom God’s word came gods, and scripture can’t be abolished. 36 So how can you say that the one whom the Father has made holy and sent into the world insults God because he said, ‘I AM GOD'S SON’?

(CEB)

Again, he said that he is God's Son. Do you believe him or not?

Love in Christ,
Marty

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Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,19:28)

no. the nature of GOD is all powerful and that is the nature of the father and the son. obama is a president of the US. is he all powerful by nature? yes or no?

J

do you think that wen you talk the same amonth of people listen as wen Obama USA president talks ?

this as nothing the do with the nature see same nature but not the same power ,

[jammin]

Quote (942767 @ June 15 2012,13:34)

Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,13:21) i believe that. i believe that jesus called the father GOD the bible also says that the father called his son GOD Hebrews 1:8 Common English Bible (CEB) 8 But he says to his Son, God, your throne is forever        and your kingdom’s scepter is a rod of justice. Hi Jammin: Yes, of course, Jesus called God his Father, but he also, said that he was returning to his Father and to our Father and to his God and our God, and by this statement he said that he is not our God. And God does call his Son God, but He said to “the Son” he saith, thy throne O God (this is capitalized by the translators, and so, I capitalized it, but there were no capital letters in the manuscripts)…. In John 10 we have this: Quote 34 Jesus replied, “Isn’t it written in your Law, I have said, you are gods?” 35 Scripture calls those to whom God’s word came gods, and scripture can’t be abolished. 36 So how can you say that the one whom the Father has made holy and sent into the world insults God because he said, ‘I AM GOD'S SON’? (CEB) Again, he said that he is God's Son.  Do you believe him or not? Love in Christ, Marty

if im going to follow your argument, you should accept that the father is god and not GOD
i believe that he is the son of GOD. i also believe that he is GOD by nature.
the bible says that. i believe that the father called him GOD.
i believe that he called his father GOD

study hard boy LOL

believe it or not,
the son is GOD

[jammin]

Quote (terraricca @ June 15 2012,13:47)

Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,19:28) no. the nature of GOD is all powerful and that is the nature of the father and the son. obama is a president of the US. is he all powerful by nature? yes or no? J do you think that wen you talk the same amonth of people listen as wen Obama USA president talks ? this as nothing the do with the nature see same nature but not the same power ,

do not explain
just answer my question first

the nature of GOD is all powerful and that is the nature of the father and the son.
obama is a president of the US. is he all powerful by nature?
yes or no?

[942767]

Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,13:54)

Quote (942767 @ June 15 2012,13:34) Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,13:21) i believe that. i believe that jesus called the father GOD the bible also says that the father called his son GOD Hebrews 1:8 Common English Bible (CEB) 8 But he says to his Son, God, your throne is forever        and your kingdom’s scepter is a rod of justice. Hi Jammin: Yes, of course, Jesus called God his Father, but he also, said that he was returning to his Father and to our Father and to his God and our God, and by this statement he said that he is not our God. And God does call his Son God, but He said to “the Son” he saith, thy throne O God (this is capitalized by the translators, and so, I capitalized it, but there were no capital letters in the manuscripts)…. In John 10 we have this: Quote 34 Jesus replied, “Isn’t it written in your Law, I have said, you are gods?” 35 Scripture calls those to whom God’s word came gods, and scripture can’t be abolished. 36 So how can you say that the one whom the Father has made holy and sent into the world insults God because he said, ‘I AM GOD'S SON’? (CEB) Again, he said that he is God's Son.  Do you believe him or not? Love in Christ, Marty if im going to follow your argument, you should accept that the father is god and not GOD i believe that he is the son of GOD. i also believe that he is GOD by nature. the bible says that. i believe that the father called him GOD. i believe that he called his father GOD study hard boy LOL believe it or not, the son is GOD

Hi Jammin:

And so, according to you there are two God's?

How then are you going to reconcile what you believe with the following scriptures?

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1Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

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Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 ONE GOD, AND FATHER OF ALL, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

Of course, these quotes are from the KJV. Does the CEB state something different than this?

Love in Christ,
Marty

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Quote (terraricca @ June 15 2012,13:47) Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,19:28) no. the nature of GOD is all powerful and that is the nature of the father and the son. obama is a president of the US. is he all powerful by nature? yes or no? J do you think that wen you talk the same amonth of people listen as wen Obama USA president talks ? this as nothing the do with the nature see same nature but not the same power , do not explain just answer my question first the nature of GOD is all powerful and that is the nature of the father and the son. obama is a president of the US. is he all powerful by nature? yes or no?

J

ok, again how could i know that the nature of God almithy is so powerful ?

were do you get that info ?

[jammin]

Quote (942767 @ June 15 2012,14:11)

Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,13:54) Quote (942767 @ June 15 2012,13:34) Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,13:21) i believe that. i believe that jesus called the father GOD the bible also says that the father called his son GOD Hebrews 1:8 Common English Bible (CEB) 8 But he says to his Son, God, your throne is forever        and your kingdom’s scepter is a rod of justice. Hi Jammin: Yes, of course, Jesus called God his Father, but he also, said that he was returning to his Father and to our Father and to his God and our God, and by this statement he said that he is not our God. And God does call his Son God, but He said to “the Son” he saith, thy throne O God (this is capitalized by the translators, and so, I capitalized it, but there were no capital letters in the manuscripts)…. In John 10 we have this: Quote 34 Jesus replied, “Isn’t it written in your Law, I have said, you are gods?” 35 Scripture calls those to whom God’s word came gods, and scripture can’t be abolished. 36 So how can you say that the one whom the Father has made holy and sent into the world insults God because he said, ‘I AM GOD'S SON’? (CEB) Again, he said that he is God's Son.  Do you believe him or not? Love in Christ, Marty if im going to follow your argument, you should accept that the father is god and not GOD i believe that he is the son of GOD. i also believe that he is GOD by nature. the bible says that. i believe that the father called him GOD. i believe that he called his father GOD study hard boy LOL believe it or not, the son is GOD Hi Jammin: And so, according to you there are two God's? How then are you going to reconcile what you believe with the following scriptures? Quote 1Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Quote Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 ONE GOD, AND FATHER OF ALL, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. Of course, these quotes are from the KJV.  Does the CEB state something different than this? Love in Christ, Marty

the term of the bible is nature GOD
there are no two GODS.

do you have two nature HUMAN?
LOL

the father and the son have only one nature, and that is nature GOD
Philippians 2:6

New International Reader's Version (NIRV)

6 In his very nature he was God.

Philippians 2:6

New International Version (NIV)

6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,

study hard boy

[jammin]

T,

answer me first

obama is a president of the US. is he all powerful by nature?
yes or no?

[terraricca]

Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,22:02)

T, answer me first obama is a president of the US. is he all powerful by nature? yes or no?

J

what makes you not the president ??

and yet you have the same nature why is that ?

what is the nature of God

you can not answer my questions right

[jammin]

the nature of GOD
-all mighty
-all knowing
-eternal
-omnipresence
-uniqueness
-self existent
-holiness

now, answer my question

is obama (president of the US) all powerful by nature?
yes or no?

[terraricca]

Quote (jammin @ June 16 2012,04:05)

the nature of  GOD -all mighty -all knowing -eternal -omnipresence -uniqueness -self existent -holiness now, answer my question is obama (president of the US) all powerful by nature? yes or no?

J

then what is the nature of man ?

[mikeboll64]

Quote (jammin @ June 14 2012,20:54)

if im going to follow your argument, you should accept that the father is god and not GOD

jammin,

Why should the One called “the God OF gods” be the same as one of the gods He is the God OF?

[942767]

Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,15:01)

Quote (942767 @ June 15 2012,14:11) Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,13:54) Quote (942767 @ June 15 2012,13:34) Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,13:21) i believe that. i believe that jesus called the father GOD the bible also says that the father called his son GOD Hebrews 1:8 Common English Bible (CEB) 8 But he says to his Son, God, your throne is forever        and your kingdom’s scepter is a rod of justice. Hi Jammin: Yes, of course, Jesus called God his Father, but he also, said that he was returning to his Father and to our Father and to his God and our God, and by this statement he said that he is not our God. And God does call his Son God, but He said to “the Son” he saith, thy throne O God (this is capitalized by the translators, and so, I capitalized it, but there were no capital letters in the manuscripts)…. In John 10 we have this: Quote 34 Jesus replied, “Isn’t it written in your Law, I have said, you are gods?” 35 Scripture calls those to whom God’s word came gods, and scripture can’t be abolished. 36 So how can you say that the one whom the Father has made holy and sent into the world insults God because he said, ‘I AM GOD'S SON’? (CEB) Again, he said that he is God's Son.  Do you believe him or not? Love in Christ, Marty if im going to follow your argument, you should accept that the father is god and not GOD i believe that he is the son of GOD. i also believe that he is GOD by nature. the bible says that. i believe that the father called him GOD. i believe that he called his father GOD study hard boy LOL believe it or not, the son is GOD Hi Jammin: And so, according to you there are two God's? How then are you going to reconcile what you believe with the following scriptures? Quote 1Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Quote Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 ONE GOD, AND FATHER OF ALL, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. Of course, these quotes are from the KJV.  Does the CEB state something different than this? Love in Christ, Marty the term of the bible is nature GOD there are no two GODS. do you have two nature HUMAN? LOL the father and the son have only one nature, and that is nature GOD Philippians 2:6 New International Reader's Version (NIRV) 6 In his very nature he was God. Philippians 2:6 New International Version (NIV) 6 Who, being in very nature[a] God, study hard boy

Oh, then there are not two Gods. It seems that we are making progress, and:

You must mean:

“That Jesus is 'Express image of God's Person'”, and so, why don't you just state what the scripture states.

He is not “God the Son”, otherwise there would be “two Gods”.
He is “THE CHRIST THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD”. (Matthew 16 as revealed by God through the Apostle Peter)

Love in Christ,
Marty

[jammin]

Quote (942767 @ June 16 2012,12:15)

Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,15:01) Quote (942767 @ June 15 2012,14:11) Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,13:54) Quote (942767 @ June 15 2012,13:34) Quote (jammin @ June 15 2012,13:21) i believe that. i believe that jesus called the father GOD the bible also says that the father called his son GOD Hebrews 1:8 Common English Bible (CEB) 8 But he says to his Son, God, your throne is forever        and your kingdom’s scepter is a rod of justice. Hi Jammin: Yes, of course, Jesus called God his Father, but he also, said that he was returning to his Father and to our Father and to his God and our God, and by this statement he said that he is not our God. And God does call his Son God, but He said to “the Son” he saith, thy throne O God (this is capitalized by the translators, and so, I capitalized it, but there were no capital letters in the manuscripts)…. In John 10 we have this: Quote 34 Jesus replied, “Isn’t it written in your Law, I have said, you are gods?” 35 Scripture calls those to whom God’s word came gods, and scripture can’t be abolished. 36 So how can you say that the one whom the Father has made holy and sent into the world insults God because he said, ‘I AM GOD'S SON’? (CEB) Again, he said that he is God's Son.  Do you believe him or not? Love in Christ, Marty if im going to follow your argument, you should accept that the father is god and not GOD i believe that he is the son of GOD. i also believe that he is GOD by nature. the bible says that. i believe that the father called him GOD. i believe that he called his father GOD study hard boy LOL believe it or not, the son is GOD Hi Jammin: And so, according to you there are two God's? How then are you going to reconcile what you believe with the following scriptures? Quote 1Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Quote Ephesians 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 ONE GOD, AND FATHER OF ALL, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. Of course, these quotes are from the KJV.  Does the CEB state something different than this? Love in Christ, Marty the term of the bible is nature GOD there are no two GODS. do you have two nature HUMAN? LOL the father and the son have only one nature, and that is nature GOD Philippians 2:6 New International Reader's Version (NIRV) 6 In his very nature he was God. Philippians 2:6 New International Version (NIV) 6 Who, being in very nature[a] God, study hard boy Oh, then there are not two Gods.  It seems that we are making progress, and: You must mean: “That Jesus is 'Express image of God's Person'”, and so, why don't you just state what the scripture states. He is not “God the Son”, otherwise there would be “two Gods”. He is “THE CHRIST THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD”.  (Matthew 16 as revealed by God through the Apostle Peter) Love in Christ, Marty

did you read my post??

i ask you a qauestion
do you have two nature?
yes or no?

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