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- June 10, 2012 at 11:57 pm#301957Ed JParticipant
PIERRE
I show it to you and you denied it.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgJune 11, 2012 at 1:29 am#301969terrariccaParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 11 2012,17:57) PIERRE I show it to you and you denied it.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
edjyou did not show anything ; you must have dreamed
June 11, 2012 at 11:08 am#302012jamminParticipantQuote (terraricca @ June 09 2012,09:44) Quote (jammin @ June 08 2012,22:10) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 08 2012,09:36) Quote (jammin @ June 07 2012,06:52) do you have the form of MAN? yes or no? if yes, are not you a MAN?
YES, jammin.I am A man.
Now, are we ready to investigate whether Paul thought Jesus was God Almighty or not?
you agree that you have the form of MAN
therefore you are a MANChrist has the form of GOD
he is a GOD and not godlike his father. the father is a GOD!
WQuote like his father. the father is a GOD! this is not true ;it shows that God the father could be a God among gods ,what is NOT so,
God the father ,his the only(stand alone) mighty God his son his A GOD because his father his GOD ,all others are just gods but leaser gods
just as all men are not born equal so all Gods are not equal
the bible says that.there is no difference between GOD and a GOD.
GOd is not the same as god.
just like you terrarica,
you are MAN by nature.
you a MANJune 11, 2012 at 11:10 am#302013jamminParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ June 11 2012,03:18) Quote (jammin @ June 05 2012,22:16) paul is referring to the nature as GOD and not as MAN paul knows that Christ is God by nature.
Galatians 4:8
Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods.jammin,
The word “nature” in the above scripture is the Greek word “phusis”. It seems that “phusis” actually DOES mean “nature”. So why didn't Paul use that word in Phil 2? Why did he instead use a word that means “outward appearance”?
read the commentaries of the bible scholars about phil 2.6
i already posted some but you are not accepting the truthyou said you have the form of MAN. you are MAN
you accept that but when it comes to the form of GOD, you cant accept that Christ is God
your logic is nonsense
June 11, 2012 at 9:14 pm#302029942767ParticipantQuote (terraricca @ June 07 2012,08:12) Quote (942767 @ June 07 2012,12:47) Hi Jammin: You say:
Quote 942767, the bible says that the fathr and the son have the same nature and that is GOD
just like you and your father
you are 2 persons but one in form or nature and that is MANI agree that the Father (God) and the Son have the same nature which originated from the Father. Jesus said that when we have seen him we have seen the Father. And then he tells us that it is through his works obedience to God, and so this is the divine nature of God that is made made manifest to humanity through the life of the Son, and it is that same divine nature that is being formed in us God's children. God made man in his own image, the first Adam was made a living soul, like God in that he is a living person, with a mind, a will, and emotiions, the last Adam is the “express image of God's person” through the life that he lives in obedience to God's Word.
Quote 1 From Paul, a slave of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for God’s good news. 2-3 God promised this good news about his Son ahead of time through his prophets in the holy scriptures. His Son was descended from David. 4 He was publicly identified as God’s Son with power through his resurrection from the dead, which was based on the Spirit of holiness. This Son is Jesus Christ our Lord. (CEB)
Again, this says God's Son and the Son of God, NOT GOD THE SON.
My father and I are two distinct individuals, just as God and His Son, but we may or may not share the same nature which is what I have become through the life that I live. If I as my father's son obey his teachings, people who know that he is my Father may say about me “that I am a chip off the old block”.
Love in Christ,
Marty
MartyQuote I agree that the Father (God) and the Son have the same nature which originated from the Father same in nature does not mean ,equality in that nature,I hope you do understand this
No, he is not equal to God, but yes, he is the same in the devine nature, the scripture states that he is “the express image of God's person”.There is “Only One God”.
Love in Christ,
MartyJune 11, 2012 at 11:07 pm#302032Ed JParticipantJune 11, 2012 at 11:53 pm#302038terrariccaParticipantQuote (jammin @ June 12 2012,05:08) Quote (terraricca @ June 09 2012,09:44) Quote (jammin @ June 08 2012,22:10) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 08 2012,09:36) Quote (jammin @ June 07 2012,06:52) do you have the form of MAN? yes or no? if yes, are not you a MAN?
YES, jammin.I am A man.
Now, are we ready to investigate whether Paul thought Jesus was God Almighty or not?
you agree that you have the form of MAN
therefore you are a MANChrist has the form of GOD
he is a GOD and not godlike his father. the father is a GOD!
WQuote like his father. the father is a GOD! this is not true ;it shows that God the father could be a God among gods ,what is NOT so,
God the father ,his the only(stand alone) mighty God his son his A GOD because his father his GOD ,all others are just gods but leaser gods
just as all men are not born equal so all Gods are not equal
the bible says that.there is no difference between GOD and a GOD.
GOd is not the same as god.
just like you terrarica,
you are MAN by nature.
you a MAN
JQuote there is no difference between GOD and a GOD. GOd is not the same as god.
just like you terrarica,
you are MAN by nature.
you a MANI am over 70 years old and I am a man
my son is 47 and he is a man
my friend is 25 and he is a man
my son ,son is just born he also is a man
I Am 5;11 my son is 5;10 ; my friend 6;4 and my son ,son is only days old but if it comes beyond the name MAN we are very different in all regards
so all man even if they are called man this is only true the their nature,
so it is with God almighty being the ONLY GOD THAT CREATE,HOLD EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER,all other gods are subject to the almighty God even if they are called gods ,got it
June 12, 2012 at 1:14 pm#302144jamminParticipantQuote (Ed J @ June 12 2012,10:07) Jammin, Christ is God's son.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
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yes and he is God the only son942767,
yes there is.
the father and the son have the same nature, and that is Godthey have ONE nature,. GOD
June 12, 2012 at 1:15 pm#302146jamminParticipantQuote (terraricca @ June 12 2012,10:53) Quote (jammin @ June 12 2012,05:08) Quote (terraricca @ June 09 2012,09:44) Quote (jammin @ June 08 2012,22:10) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 08 2012,09:36) Quote (jammin @ June 07 2012,06:52) do you have the form of MAN? yes or no? if yes, are not you a MAN?
YES, jammin.I am A man.
Now, are we ready to investigate whether Paul thought Jesus was God Almighty or not?
you agree that you have the form of MAN
therefore you are a MANChrist has the form of GOD
he is a GOD and not godlike his father. the father is a GOD!
WQuote like his father. the father is a GOD! this is not true ;it shows that God the father could be a God among gods ,what is NOT so,
God the father ,his the only(stand alone) mighty God his son his A GOD because his father his GOD ,all others are just gods but leaser gods
just as all men are not born equal so all Gods are not equal
the bible says that.there is no difference between GOD and a GOD.
GOd is not the same as god.
just like you terrarica,
you are MAN by nature.
you a MAN
JQuote there is no difference between GOD and a GOD. GOd is not the same as god.
just like you terrarica,
you are MAN by nature.
you a MANI am over 70 years old and I am a man
my son is 47 and he is a man
my friend is 25 and he is a man
my son ,son is just born he also is a man
I Am 5;11 my son is 5;10 ; my friend 6;4 and my son ,son is only days old but if it comes beyond the name MAN we are very different in all regards
so all man even if they are called man this is only true the their nature,
so it is with God almighty being the ONLY GOD THAT CREATE,HOLD EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER,all other gods are subject to the almighty God even if they are called gods ,got it
all of you have one nature and that is MANjust like christ and the father, the have ONE nature and that is GOD
June 12, 2012 at 3:11 pm#302150942767ParticipantHi Jammin:
You say:
Quote yes and he is God the only son Give me the scripture that states this and I will believe you otherwise you are adding to what the scripture states.
Love in Christ,
MartyJune 12, 2012 at 3:26 pm#302152terrariccaParticipantQuote (jammin @ June 13 2012,07:15) Quote (terraricca @ June 12 2012,10:53) Quote (jammin @ June 12 2012,05:08) Quote (terraricca @ June 09 2012,09:44) Quote (jammin @ June 08 2012,22:10) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 08 2012,09:36) Quote (jammin @ June 07 2012,06:52) do you have the form of MAN? yes or no? if yes, are not you a MAN?
YES, jammin.I am A man.
Now, are we ready to investigate whether Paul thought Jesus was God Almighty or not?
you agree that you have the form of MAN
therefore you are a MANChrist has the form of GOD
he is a GOD and not godlike his father. the father is a GOD!
WQuote like his father. the father is a GOD! this is not true ;it shows that God the father could be a God among gods ,what is NOT so,
God the father ,his the only(stand alone) mighty God his son his A GOD because his father his GOD ,all others are just gods but leaser gods
just as all men are not born equal so all Gods are not equal
the bible says that.there is no difference between GOD and a GOD.
GOd is not the same as god.
just like you terrarica,
you are MAN by nature.
you a MAN
JQuote there is no difference between GOD and a GOD. GOd is not the same as god.
just like you terrarica,
you are MAN by nature.
you a MANI am over 70 years old and I am a man
my son is 47 and he is a man
my friend is 25 and he is a man
my son ,son is just born he also is a man
I Am 5;11 my son is 5;10 ; my friend 6;4 and my son ,son is only days old but if it comes beyond the name MAN we are very different in all regards
so all man even if they are called man this is only true the their nature,
so it is with God almighty being the ONLY GOD THAT CREATE,HOLD EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER,all other gods are subject to the almighty God even if they are called gods ,got it
all of you have one nature and that is MANjust like christ and the father, the have ONE nature and that is GOD
JChrist is the only one that has a similarity in his nature to Gods nature because all others have been created through him (Christ)
there is only ONE GOD ALMIGHTY THE FATHER OF ALL CREATION
June 12, 2012 at 11:17 pm#302208mikeboll64Blockedjammin,
Like Ed said, Jesus is not God, but his Son.
And like Marty said, if the scriptures don't actually speak of any “God the Son”, then you are adding to them.
These are both good, reliable, simple facts, jammin. You should consider them.
peace,
mikeJune 13, 2012 at 12:42 am#302223jamminParticipantthomas said Jesus is GOD.
paul said he has the form of GOD, meaning he is GODgreek says monogenes theos – God the only son.
i believe what the bible says
June 13, 2012 at 2:03 am#302242terrariccaParticipantQuote (jammin @ June 13 2012,18:42) thomas said Jesus is GOD.
paul said he has the form of GOD, meaning he is GODgreek says monogenes theos – God the only son.
i believe what the bible says
JQuote i believe what the bible says NO YOU DO NOT ;“Father, the time has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you.
Jn 17:2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him.
Jn 17:3 Now this is eternal life: that they may know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.June 13, 2012 at 3:11 am#302250jamminParticipantthat is just your opinion.
yes i believe that there is only one true God the father.
the son is also truly GOD.
one GOD the only son (monogenes theos)thomas said to jesus, my LORD and my GOD! john 20.28
June 13, 2012 at 5:08 am#302256terrariccaParticipantQuote (jammin @ June 13 2012,21:11) that is just your opinion. yes i believe that there is only one true God the father.
the son is also truly GOD.
one GOD the only son (monogenes theos)thomas said to jesus, my LORD and my GOD! john 20.28
JWhat you think is irrelevant to the truth of scriptures,
Christ does not give a opinion in John 17:2-3 it shows who his God and who his Christ ,as you can see they are two different persons,one his father of the other and one his son of the other ,two divinity but not equal in rank,
June 13, 2012 at 12:38 pm#302264jamminParticipantyes they are two different persons BUT one in nature, GOD
just like you and your father. you are two different person but in form or nature, MAN.
your father is MAN
you are also MANthe father is GOD
the son is also GODrank is not nature or form
June 13, 2012 at 2:28 pm#302267terrariccaParticipantQuote (jammin @ June 14 2012,06:38) yes they are two different persons BUT one in nature, GOD just like you and your father. you are two different person but in form or nature, MAN.
your father is MAN
you are also MANthe father is GOD
the son is also GODrank is not nature or form
Jthe NATURE is only a reference or connection ,no more it does not mean equality,it only confirms what the rest of scriptures are saying ,that God was without a son at one point and so alone ,and that creation starts with the son
June 14, 2012 at 11:35 am#302379jamminParticipantwe are equal in nature or form.
we only have one form and that is the form of MAN.do you have any other form terrarica? LOL
June 14, 2012 at 3:37 pm#302392terrariccaParticipantQuote (jammin @ June 15 2012,05:35) we are equal in nature or form.
we only have one form and that is the form of MAN.do you have any other form terrarica? LOL
Jform,is human ,but this does not help you to be king or master ,or president , or what ever ,got it
the form is just an distingtion from other forms or natures ,humans are not animal ,or birds or fish,got it
so Christ is in the form or nature of God but not God almighty just the son of him ,and so is “a god”
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