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yes of course. but it does not mean that the son is not almighty.
almighty is one of the nature of GOd.
as God, you are all powerful, all knowing, all mighty etc.you should study the nature of God.
Quote (jammin @ May 24 2012,05:05) yes of course. but it does not mean that the son is not almighty.
Of course it DOES mean that, jammin.If the ONLY Almighty God has a Son named Jesus, and Jesus DOESN'T have a Son named Jesus, then Jesus is neither almighty nor the ONLY Almighty God.
mike,
the nature of God is all mighty
the nature of MAN is not all mighty.
you are not God mike by nature but MAN.
Quote (942767 @ May 25 2012,07:20) Hi Jammin: From whom does this divine nature originate?
Love in Christ,
Marty
God by nature is eternalQuote (jammin @ May 26 2012,07:53) mike, the nature of God is all mighty
Will those of human descent that some day partake in divine nature become “Almighty” by doing so?the meaning of the verse is participating in the life of GOD
2 pet 1.4
English Revised Version
whereby he hath granted unto us his precious and exceeding great promises; that through these ye may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped from the corruption that is in the world by lust.gill's exposition of the entire bible
that by these you might be partakers of the divine nature; not essentially, or of the essence of God, so as to be deified, this is impossible, for the nature, perfections, and glory of God, are incommunicable to creatures; nor, hypostatically and personally, so as the human nature of Christ, in union with the Son of God, is a partaker of the divine nature in him; but by way of resemblance and likeness, the new man or principle of grace, being formed in the heart in regeneration, after the image of God, and bearing a likeness to the image of his Son, and this is styled, Christ formed in the heart, into which image and likeness the saints are more and more changed, from glory to glory, through the application of the Gospel, and the promises of it, by which they have such sights of Christ as do transform them, and assimilate them to him; and which resemblance will be perfected hereafter, when they shall be entirely like him, and see him as he is:Hi Jammin,
Just as well you are around to explain what these verses mean.
Funny that it always suits your dogmas though.Quote (jammin @ May 27 2012,00:54) Quote (942767 @ May 25 2012,07:20) Hi Jammin: From whom does this divine nature originate?
Love in Christ,
Marty
God by nature is eternal
Hi Jammin:And so, when you speak of God's divine nature you are referring to the fact that He is eternal?
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (jammin @ May 27 2012,07:53) mike, the nature of God is all mighty
the nature of MAN is not all mighty.
you are not God mike by nature but MAN.
Jbut not all men are kings,nor president neither ,
and not all are born in Africa,or France,but all are born on earth ,right
so someone born on earth as a connection to earth ,and someone born of the spirit of God has a connection to God,right
but the one that came down from God has a greater connection to God than to the earth ,right
Another well written post, Pierre.
It seems that jammin spends a lot of time HIDING BEHIND this “nature” claim. To me, that seems odd when scripture doesn't even specify that Jesus and God are of the same nature. (And yes, jammin, we all realize that you like to FORCE Phil 2 to say “nature”, despite the fact that the Greek word “morphe” really means “outward appearence of a person or thing”. It just seems weak to me that you would try to base your doctrine upon this one little “nature” argument, while at the same time completely IGNORING all the many CLEARLY WRITTEN scriptures that prohibit Jesus from being the God he is the Son of.
)Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2012,12:06) Another well written post, Pierre. It seems that jammin spends a lot of time HIDING BEHIND this “nature” claim. To me, that seems odd when scripture doesn't even specify that Jesus and God are of the same nature. (And yes, jammin, we all realize that you like to FORCE Phil 2 to say “nature”, despite the fact that the Greek word “morphe” really means “outward appearence of a person or thing”. It just seems weak to me that you would try to base your doctrine upon this one little “nature” argument, while at the same time completely IGNORING all the many CLEARLY WRITTEN scriptures that prohibit Jesus from being the God he is the Son of.
)Quote (jammin @ May 28 2012,01:24) divine nature is the nature of God
The scripture states that:Quote 1Jo 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love Could that be the divine nature that Jesus and we as God's children of which we are partakers? GOD IS LOVE!
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (terraricca @ May 28 2012,04:40) Quote (jammin @ May 27 2012,07:53) mike, the nature of God is all mighty
the nature of MAN is not all mighty.
you are not God mike by nature but MAN.
Jbut not all men are kings,nor president neither ,
and not all are born in Africa,or France,but all are born on earth ,right
so someone born on earth as a connection to earth ,and someone born of the spirit of God has a connection to God,right
but the one that came down from God has a greater connection to God than to the earth ,right
not all men are kings ,president etc etc.
but they all have the same nature, MANand the nature of man is limited.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2012,05:06) Another well written post, Pierre. It seems that jammin spends a lot of time HIDING BEHIND this “nature” claim. To me, that seems odd when scripture doesn't even specify that Jesus and God are of the same nature. (And yes, jammin, we all realize that you like to FORCE Phil 2 to say “nature”, despite the fact that the Greek word “morphe” really means “outward appearence of a person or thing”. It just seems weak to me that you would try to base your doctrine upon this one little “nature” argument, while at the same time completely IGNORING all the many CLEARLY WRITTEN scriptures that prohibit Jesus from being the God he is the Son of.
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you do not know greek mikeyes morphe means form
but it also means naturestudy greek. go to school mike
Quote (942767 @ May 28 2012,09:24) Quote (jammin @ May 28 2012,01:24) divine nature is the nature of God
The scripture states that:Quote 1Jo 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love Could that be the divine nature that Jesus and we as God's children of which we are partakers? GOD IS LOVE!
Love in Christ,
Marty
2 pet 1.4
says that we can participate in the life of GODthat is the meaning of might be partakers of his divine nature
2 Peter 1:4
The Message (MSG)
Don't Put It Off
3-4Everything that goes into a life of pleasing God has been miraculously given to us by getting to know, personally and intimately, the One who invited us to God. The best invitation we ever received! We were also given absolutely terrific promises to pass on to you—your tickets to participation in the life of God after you turned your back on a world corrupted by lust.Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible
that by these you might be partakers of the divine nature; not essentially, or of the essence of God, so as to be deified, this is impossible, for the nature, perfections, and glory of God, are incommunicable to creatures; nor, hypostatically and personally, so as the human nature of Christ, in union with the Son of God, is a partaker of the divine nature in him; but by way of resemblance and likeness, the new man or principle of grace, being formed in the heart in regeneration, after the image of God, and bearing a likeness to the image of his Son, and this is styled, Christ formed in the heart, into which image and likeness the saints are more and more changed, from glory to glory, through the application of the Gospel, and the promises of it, by which they have such sights of Christ as do transform them, and assimilate them to him; and which resemblance will be perfected hereafter, when they shall be entirely like him, and see him as he is:
Quote (jammin @ May 28 2012,20:11) Quote (terraricca @ May 28 2012,04:40) Quote (jammin @ May 27 2012,07:53) mike, the nature of God is all mighty
the nature of MAN is not all mighty.
you are not God mike by nature but MAN.
Jbut not all men are kings,nor president neither ,
and not all are born in Africa,or France,but all are born on earth ,right
so someone born on earth as a connection to earth ,and someone born of the spirit of God has a connection to God,right
but the one that came down from God has a greater connection to God than to the earth ,right
not all men are kings ,president etc etc.
but they all have the same nature, MANand the nature of man is limited.
Jthey are the most powerfull animal
on earthcompered to God they have none
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