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Quote (jammin @ May 17 2012,20:57) did he see God face to face ACCORDING TO THE VERSE mike? yes or no?
Seemingly, jammin. But did God tell Moses that no man can see Him and live? YES or NO?Do we have a contradiction in scripture? Or will you accept Hosea's explanation that the ancient Hebrews often referred to representatives of God as “God”?
Here, read his words in 12:3-4 again………….
………and with his dynamic energy he contended with God. 4 And he kept contending with an angel and gradually prevailed.Did Jacob contend with God Himself? Or with an angel? Or could it be that by contending with God's representative, it could be said said that he contended with God?
Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,14:09) Quote (942767 @ May 14 2012,13:51) Quote (jammin @ April 07 2012,00:10) i answered that alraedy. are you blind LOL what answer do you want? a yes or no only?
1.no.
2.the bible says mother of the “LORD. “that is my answer.
Hi Jammin:Is Mary the mother of “God the Son”?
the son is GOD.. yes! mary is the mother of the LORD> Christ is Lord and God!thomas said that in john 20.28
my Lord and my God
Hi Jammin:Mary is the mother of “the Son of God”:
Quote 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Luk 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Luk 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
There is no scripture that calls Jesus “God the Son” is there?
The scripture states that God is eternal, and therefore, He has no mother or father.
The scripture also calls Jesus the “last Adam”, and states that “he is the express image of God's person”.
When he ascended into heaven he stated that he was going to his God and our God.
Quote Jhn 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and your God. Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (mikeboll64 @ May 19 2012,14:40) Quote (jammin @ May 17 2012,20:57) did he see God face to face ACCORDING TO THE VERSE mike? yes or no?
Seemingly, jammin. But did God tell Moses that no man can see Him and live? YES or NO?Do we have a contradiction in scripture? Or will you accept Hosea's explanation that the ancient Hebrews often referred to representatives of God as “God”?
Here, read his words in 12:3-4 again………….
………and with his dynamic energy he contended with God. 4 And he kept contending with an angel and gradually prevailed.Did Jacob contend with God Himself? Or with an angel? Or could it be that by contending with God's representative, it could be said said that he contended with God?
do not answer question mike. i still have a question for you
did jacob see God face to face? yes or no?Quote (942767 @ May 20 2012,09:36) Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,14:09) Quote (942767 @ May 14 2012,13:51) Quote (jammin @ April 07 2012,00:10) i answered that alraedy. are you blind LOL what answer do you want? a yes or no only?
1.no.
2.the bible says mother of the “LORD. “that is my answer.
Hi Jammin:Is Mary the mother of “God the Son”?
the son is GOD.. yes! mary is the mother of the LORD> Christ is Lord and God!thomas said that in john 20.28
my Lord and my God
Hi Jammin:Mary is the mother of “the Son of God”:
Quote 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Luk 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Luk 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
There is no scripture that calls Jesus “God the Son” is there?
The scripture states that God is eternal, and therefore, He has no mother or father.
The scripture also calls Jesus the “last Adam”, and states that “he is the express image of God's person”.
When he ascended into heaven he stated that he was going to his God and our God.
Quote Jhn 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and your God. Love in Christ,
Marty
that is just your imagination. the bible says Christ is GOd the only son (monogenes theos in greek )john 1.18
John 1:18Common English Bible (CEB)
18 No one has ever seen God.
God the only Son,
who is at the Father’s side,
has made God known.Quote (jammin @ May 20 2012,07:47) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 19 2012,14:40) Quote (jammin @ May 17 2012,20:57) did he see God face to face ACCORDING TO THE VERSE mike? yes or no?
Seemingly, jammin. But did God tell Moses that no man can see Him and live? YES or NO?Do we have a contradiction in scripture? Or will you accept Hosea's explanation that the ancient Hebrews often referred to representatives of God as “God”?
Here, read his words in 12:3-4 again………….
………and with his dynamic energy he contended with God. 4 And he kept contending with an angel and gradually prevailed.Did Jacob contend with God Himself? Or with an angel? Or could it be that by contending with God's representative, it could be said said that he contended with God?
do not answer question mike. i still have a question for you
did jacob see God face to face? yes or no?
NO, Jacob did NOT see God face to face.Jacob saw and wrestled with an angel of God, whom he referred to as “God”, since it was a representative of God.
These are the questions you said you answered, but I have not seen your answers:
1. In Rev 4:11, who did John see sitting on the throne? (From Ed J)
2. God Most High has a Son named Jesus. Does Jesus have a Son named Jesus? YES or NO?
Quote (jammin @ May 21 2012,00:49) Quote (942767 @ May 20 2012,09:36) Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,14:09) Quote (942767 @ May 14 2012,13:51) Quote (jammin @ April 07 2012,00:10) i answered that alraedy. are you blind LOL what answer do you want? a yes or no only?
1.no.
2.the bible says mother of the “LORD. “that is my answer.
Hi Jammin:Is Mary the mother of “God the Son”?
the son is GOD.. yes! mary is the mother of the LORD> Christ is Lord and God!thomas said that in john 20.28
my Lord and my God
Hi Jammin:Mary is the mother of “the Son of God”:
Quote 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Luk 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Luk 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
There is no scripture that calls Jesus “God the Son” is there?
The scripture states that God is eternal, and therefore, He has no mother or father.
The scripture also calls Jesus the “last Adam”, and states that “he is the express image of God's person”.
When he ascended into heaven he stated that he was going to his God and our God.
Quote Jhn 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and your God. Love in Christ,
Marty
that is just your imagination. the bible says Christ is GOd the only son (monogenes theos in greek )john 1.18
John 1:18Common English Bible (CEB)
18 No one has ever seen God.
God the only Son,
who is at the Father’s side,
has made God known.
Hi Jammin:Scripture must be line upon line and precept upon precept, and monogenes theos, although some manuscripts may have it that way is not consistent with other scriptures that state that Jesus is the “Son of God” not “God the Son”.
This is what God revealed to humanity through the Apostle Peter:
Quote Mat 16:13 ¶ When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? Mat 16:14 And they said, Some [say that thou art] John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
Mat 16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
Mat 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Mat 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Other manuscripts have it “monogenes huis”, and is consistent with what God has revealed to humanity in the revelation given to us by the above scriptures.
And this scripture states that there is “One God”:
Quote Eph 4:4 [There is] one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all.
Love in Christ,
MartyHi Jammin:
Quote
John 3:16Common English Bible (CEB)
16 God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who believes in him won’t perish but will have eternal life.
This scripture also is not consistent with “monogenes theos” is it?
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (mikeboll64 @ May 21 2012,01:45) Quote (jammin @ May 20 2012,07:47) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 19 2012,14:40) Quote (jammin @ May 17 2012,20:57) did he see God face to face ACCORDING TO THE VERSE mike? yes or no?
Seemingly, jammin. But did God tell Moses that no man can see Him and live? YES or NO?Do we have a contradiction in scripture? Or will you accept Hosea's explanation that the ancient Hebrews often referred to representatives of God as “God”?
Here, read his words in 12:3-4 again………….
………and with his dynamic energy he contended with God. 4 And he kept contending with an angel and gradually prevailed.Did Jacob contend with God Himself? Or with an angel? Or could it be that by contending with God's representative, it could be said said that he contended with God?
do not answer question mike. i still have a question for you
did jacob see God face to face? yes or no?
NO, Jacob did NOT see God face to face.Jacob saw and wrestled with an angel of God, whom he referred to as “God”, since it was a representative of God.
These are the questions you said you answered, but I have not seen your answers:
1. In Rev 4:11, who did John see sitting on the throne? (From Ed J)
2. God Most High has a Son named Jesus. Does Jesus have a Son named Jesus? YES or NO?
no???then make your own bible mike
LOLGenesis 32:30
New International Version (NIV)
30 So Jacob called the place Peniel,[a] saying, “It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.”
no mike. the angel of God is God himself. that is the son of the father who is himself God.
rev 4.11 – GOD
2. we are talking about the nature. if your father is man by nature, you are also man by nature.
the father is God by nature, the son is also God by nature.God the only son (monogenes theos) study greek mike. you cant understand me bec you do not know greek,
Quote (942767 @ May 21 2012,09:15) Quote (jammin @ May 21 2012,00:49) Quote (942767 @ May 20 2012,09:36) Quote (jammin @ May 14 2012,14:09) Quote (942767 @ May 14 2012,13:51) Quote (jammin @ April 07 2012,00:10) i answered that alraedy. are you blind LOL what answer do you want? a yes or no only?
1.no.
2.the bible says mother of the “LORD. “that is my answer.
Hi Jammin:Is Mary the mother of “God the Son”?
the son is GOD.. yes! mary is the mother of the LORD> Christ is Lord and God!thomas said that in john 20.28
my Lord and my God
Hi Jammin:Mary is the mother of “the Son of God”:
Quote 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. Luk 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
Luk 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Luk 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.
There is no scripture that calls Jesus “God the Son” is there?
The scripture states that God is eternal, and therefore, He has no mother or father.
The scripture also calls Jesus the “last Adam”, and states that “he is the express image of God's person”.
When he ascended into heaven he stated that he was going to his God and our God.
Quote Jhn 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and [to] my God, and your God. Love in Christ,
Marty
that is just your imagination. the bible says Christ is GOd the only son (monogenes theos in greek )john 1.18
John 1:18Common English Bible (CEB)
18 No one has ever seen God.
God the only Son,
who is at the Father’s side,
has made God known.
Hi Jammin:Scripture must be line upon line and precept upon precept, and monogenes theos, although some manuscripts may have it that way is not consistent with other scriptures that state that Jesus is the “Son of God” not “God the Son”.
This is what God revealed to humanity through the Apostle Peter:
Quote Mat 16:13 ¶ When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? Mat 16:14 And they said, Some [say that thou art] John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
Mat 16:15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
Mat 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Mat 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed [it] unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Other manuscripts have it “monogenes huis”, and is consistent with what God has revealed to humanity in the revelation given to us by the above scriptures.
And this scripture states that there is “One God”:
Quote Eph 4:4 [There is] one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6 One God and Father of all, who [is] above all, and through all, and in you all.
Love in Christ,
Marty
truly Christ is the son of GOd. but the bible also says that he is God the only son.the father is God by nature
the son is also God by nature.just like you and your father.
your father is man by nature. you are also man by nature. you are not an animalare you blind?
i posted the verse so many times
John 1:18Common English Bible (CEB)
18 No one has ever seen God.
God the only Son,
who is at the Father’s side,
has made God known.monogenes means only son, begotten
monogenes theos means begotten GOD or God the only son.
ΚΑΤΑ ΙΩΑΝΝΗΝ 1:18 (john 1.18)
18 θεον ουδεις εωρακεν πωποτε μονογενης θεος ο ων εις τον κολπον του πατρος εκεινος εξηγησατο
you should study greek for you to know the meaning of this verse
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