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- May 11, 2012 at 2:43 pm#297484jamminParticipant
Quote (Ed J @ May 12 2012,00:36) Quote (jammin @ May 12 2012,00:19) nick, 1 Timothy 3:16
Amplified Bible (AMP)
16 And great and important and weighty, we confess, is the hidden truth (the mystic secret) of godliness. He [God] was made visible in human flesh, justified and vindicated in the [Holy] Spirit, was seen by angels, preached among the nations, believed on in the world, [and] taken up in glory.
who is that GOD? father or son?
let me post again 1 tim 3.16
1 Timothy 3:16New Life Version (NLV)
16 It is important to know the secret of God-like living, which is: Christ came to earth as a Man. He was pure in His Spirit. He was seen by angels. The nations heard about Him. Men everywhere put their trust in Him. He was taken up into heaven.
Hi Jammin,Were's the “AKJV Bible” verse in your post?
Are you not interested in God's truth?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
KJV says GOD manifested in the flesh or was manifest in the flesh.that GOD is Christ. the son of GOD is GOD by nature. just like paul said in phil 2.6
that is what the bible says
May 11, 2012 at 4:04 pm#297491Ed JParticipantQuote (jammin @ May 12 2012,01:41) Quote (Ed J @ May 12 2012,00:36) Quote (jammin @ May 12 2012,00:20) the father is God
the son is GOD
Hi Jammin,Referencing GOD: are you suggesting he is both?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
i told you m answer.
the son is God by nature
the father is GOD by naturejust like you and your father,
he is MAN by nature;
you are also man by nature..do you accpt it?
Hi Jammin,The “New Man” has God's divine nature. (see 2Peter 1:4)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 11, 2012 at 4:08 pm#297492Ed JParticipantQuote (Ed J @ May 12 2012,00:36) Quote (jammin @ May 12 2012,00:20) the father is God
the son is GOD
Hi Jammin,Referencing GOD: are you suggesting he is both?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Jammin,So, your answer is “YES” then, right?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 11, 2012 at 4:09 pm#297493Ed JParticipantQuote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,21:24) Quote (jammin @ May 11 2012,21:14) Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,19:07) Hi Jammin, Question #2: First you claim my question is not specific enough, (First post on page)
and now you're claiming you answered; (last post you made)
but NEITHER are really true!(Jammin) GOD: means supreme being
(Ed J,) GOD: the creator of the universe.
For reference, Here is the definitions of “GOD”.You answered a different question, one that I didn't ask?
I didn't ask… 'do you believed the son is GOD by nature.'What I instead asked is:
are you suggesting that Mary is(?) the mother of God?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
are you referring to the son or father?the son is GOD
the father is GOD
Hi Jammin, I'm referring to “GOD”.So, is your answer both “YES” and “NO” then?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Then this answer is both “Yes” ans “No”, right?May 11, 2012 at 4:17 pm#297494Ed JParticipantHi Jammin,
It's a good thing you are not a teacher, because
400 posts later and you only answered 2 questions;
wait a minute, we 'almost' have our third answer now.Getting answers from you
is harder than dentists
working on children.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 11, 2012 at 4:28 pm#297496Ed JParticipantQuote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,19:07) (Question #2) Are you suggesting that Mary is(?) the mother of God?
God bless
Ed JQuote (jammin @ May 12 2012,01:46) GOD is the son of GOD.
Hi Jammin,Great, we now have three answers!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 11, 2012 at 7:42 pm#297522NickHassanParticipantHi Jammin,
The WORD was God and in Jesus too was his Father as Spirit.
Now for those who follow it is written
WE will come to youMay 11, 2012 at 9:18 pm#297546Ed JParticipantHi Jammin, (Question #4)
When we read “The LORD” in the “AKJV Bible”,
is it speaking of [יהוה] YÄ-hä-vā or [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă ?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 12, 2012 at 2:52 am#297588jamminParticipantQuote (Ed J @ May 12 2012,08:18) Hi Jammin, (Question #4) When we read “The LORD” in the “AKJV Bible”,
is it speaking of [יהוה] YÄ-hä-vā or [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă ?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
you are not answering my question boywhat did peter say in 2 pet 1.4
1. do you exst in the form of GOD
2. you might be partakers of divine nature?=————–
also,
do you believe that Christ is GOD by nature? yes or no?
May 12, 2012 at 2:56 am#297594jamminParticipantedj,
John 1:12
New Century Version (NCV)
12 But to all who did accept him and believe in him he gave the right to become children of God.——–
do you accept that you are man by nature jus like your father?May 12, 2012 at 2:57 am#297595jamminParticipantQuote (Ed J @ May 12 2012,03:28) Quote (Ed J @ May 11 2012,19:07) (Question #2) Are you suggesting that Mary is(?) the mother of God?
God bless
Ed JQuote (jammin @ May 12 2012,01:46) GOD is the son of GOD.
Hi Jammin,Great, we now have three answers!
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
the son and not the fatherthe son is GOD by nature
phil 2.6
Philippians 2:6New International Version (NIV)
6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,
May 12, 2012 at 3:44 am#297604Ed JParticipantQuote (jammin @ May 12 2012,13:52) Quote (Ed J @ May 12 2012,08:18) Hi Jammin, (Question #4) When we read “The LORD” in the “AKJV Bible”,
is it speaking of [יהוה] YÄ-hä-vā or [יהשוע] YÄ-shü-ă ?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
you are not answering my question boywhat did peter say in 2 pet 1.4
1. do you exst in the form of GOD
2. you might be partakers of divine nature?=————–
also,
do you believe that Christ is GOD by nature? yes or no?
Hi Jammin,Not answering questions within your restrictive confines does not
constitute as a non-answer and is restricting your spiritual growth.Loaded questions cannot be answered 1. or 2.
they must first be unloaded. (Link to thread)I've addressed this post over 15 times now;
answering it in more than 5 different ways.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 12, 2012 at 3:52 am#297606Ed JParticipantQuote (jammin @ May 12 2012,13:56) edj, do you accept that you are man by nature jus like your father?
Hi Jammin,I share the nature of GOD my father being the “New Man”.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 12, 2012 at 6:01 am#297620Ed JParticipantQuote (jammin @ May 12 2012,13:57) the son is GOD by nature
Hi Jammin,Your use of foreign terminology is unclear?
What does 'GOD by nature' even mean?You have said the “Son of GOD” is GOD?
Quote (jammin @ May 12 2012,01:46) GOD is the son of GOD. And we know through biblical record that Mary is Jesus' mother.
1. Are you suggesting that Mary is “Mother Nature”? Or
2. Are you suggesting that Mary is the “Mother of GOD”?Choose 1 or 2
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 12, 2012 at 6:04 am#297621Ed JParticipantOr do you believe both?
May 12, 2012 at 6:10 am#297622Ed JParticipantQuote (Ed J @ May 12 2012,03:09) (Jammin) GOD: means supreme being
(Ed J,) GOD: the creator of the universe.
Hi Jammin,At least it is clear how we define “GOD”.
So we at least have a basis for discussion!God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 12, 2012 at 6:18 am#297624Ed JParticipantQuote (Ed J @ May 10 2012,13:52)
Here's the list of my terms…
GOD: the creator of the universe.
NATURE: the physical world collectively.
I will be referring to my terms in our discussions.
Hi Jammin,I have also defined my
use of the term nature.You have yet to define
your use of this word.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgMay 12, 2012 at 12:18 pm#297648jamminParticipantnature means ineherent qualities or attributes. i have already said this before.. maybe you have an amnesia LOL
answer my quetion boy
what did peter say in 2 pet 1.4
1. do you exst in the form of GOD
2. you might be partakers of divine nature?=————–
also,
do you believe that Christ is GOD by nature? yes or no?
the question is categorical
May 12, 2012 at 2:47 pm#297651mikeboll64BlockedQuote (jammin @ May 10 2012,22:18) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 11 2012,11:30)
I assume that you agree with scripture that there exists only ONE Omniscient Creator of All Things, right? And that One is called “God Most High”, right?Do you think Jesus IS that One…………….or the Son OF that One? It has to be one of the two, not both.
Jesus can either BE God Almighty, or he can be the Son OF God Almighty, who also shares a divine, spirit nature WITH his Father, God Almighty.
Which choice do the scriptures bear out:
1. God Most High?
2. Son OF God Most High?
mikeyou dont understand what you are saying
il give you an exmple,
you and your father have the same nature ,MAN
the nature of man is not eternal. man is created
the nature of man is not all powerful. man is limited
the nature of man is not all knowing. man is limited
etcdo you agree?
jammin,I agree that you and your father share the same nature. But you can either BE the same being as your father, or you can be the son OF your father that shares a nature with your father. So which one are you:
1. The same being as your father?
2. The son OF your father?Also, all powerful, all knowing, and from eternity are not a part of someone's “nature”. If they were, then Jesus couldn't be said to share God's nature, because Jesus is NOT all powerful, all knowing, or from eternity, as this scripture confirms:
Micah 5 NIV
2 “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah,
though you are small among the clans of Judah,
out of you will come for me
one who will be ruler over Israel,
whose origins are from of old,
from ancient times.”4 He will stand and shepherd his flock
in the strength of the LORD,
in the majesty of the name of the LORD his God.Jesus had an ORIGIN, jammin. And even after being exalted to the highest place, he still rules in the STRENGTH OF JEHOVAH, HIS GOD. So he is neither from eternity, nor all powerful. (This scripture brings up another point: Can God Almighty be the God OF God Almighty? Does God Almighty have a God of His own? Only in Bizarro World would that make any sense. )
Please give me a direct answer to my original question, jammin. You have been hounding Ed for weeks because he hasn't answered your question with one of your choices. I have now given you the only two choices there are, please pick one of them. According to the scriptures, is Jesus:
1. God Most High?
2. The Son OF God Most High?May 12, 2012 at 7:57 pm#297670NickHassanParticipantHi Jammin,
You say
“nature means ineherent qualities or attributes.”and
“the son is GOD by nature”So you only know of GOD by NATURE?
If You KNEW HIM all arguments ABOUT HIM would cease.
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