For Jammin

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ May 09 2012,18:40)

Quote (Ed J @ May 09 2012,16:51) Hi Jammin, (Question #7 define “divine nature”) do you accept this definition of “divine nature”? Divine nature: having the nature of the Godhead. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org give me the verse and ill explain it to you

Hi Jammin, I'm NOT ASKING YOU TO EXPLAIN the verse, but instead if you agree on the definition of “divine nature”.    
Do you agree on the definition of divine nature (posted in my quote in blue)? Here's the verse it's taken from…

“According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through
the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: Whereby are given unto us exceeding
great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the “divine nature”,
having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.” (2 Peter 1:3-4)

If not HOW DO YOU DEFINE “divine nature”?

[jammin]

“might be”
do you understand that term>? LOL

now what is the meaning of 2 pet 1.4? it means that believers were given PROMISES – THESE ARE THE TICKETS TO PARTICIPATION IN THE LIFE OF GOD!
DIVINE NATURE HERE MEANS LIFE OF GOD!

2PET 1.4 MSG
The best invitation we ever received! We were also given absolutely terrific promises to pass on to you—your tickets to participation in the life of God after you turned your back on a world corrupted by lust.

[jammin]

now, answer mine

1).what did john said??

did he say the word is the son of GOD or the holy spirit?
————————————————

2).just pick your answer

wht did peter say in 2 pet 1.4

1.do you exist in the form of God
2. you might be partakers of divine nature.

choose 1 or 2 for your answer

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ May 09 2012,21:34)

Quote (Ed J @ May 09 2012,19:25) Quote (jammin @ May 09 2012,18:40) Quote (Ed J @ May 09 2012,16:51) Hi Jammin, (Question #7 define “divine nature”) do you accept this definition of “divine nature”? Divine nature: having the nature of the Godhead. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org give me the verse and ill explain it to you Hi Jammin, I'm NOT ASKING YOU TO EXPLAIN the verse, but instead if you agree on the definition of “divine nature”.     Do you agree on the definition of divine nature (posted in my quote in blue)? Here's the verse it's taken from… “According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the “divine nature”, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.” (2 Peter 1:3-4) If not HOW DO YOU DEFINE “divine nature”? DIVINE NATURE HERE MEANS LIFE OF GOD!

Hi Jammin,

Are you saying that “divine nature” defines as “the life of God”?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[jammin]

that's what the bible says

2PET 1.4 MSG
The best invitation we ever received! We were also given absolutely terrific promises to pass on to you—your tickets to participation in the life of Godafter you turned your back on a world corrupted by lust.

[jammin]

now, answer mine

1).what did john said??

did he say the word is the son of GOD or the holy spirit?
————————————————

2).just pick your answer

wht did peter say in 2 pet 1.4

1.do you exist in the form of God
2. you might be partakers of divine nature.

choose 1 or 2 for your answer

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ May 09 2012,21:45)

that's what the bible says 2PET 1.4 MSG The best invitation we ever received! We were also given absolutely terrific promises to pass on to you—your tickets to participation in the life of Godafter you turned your back on a world corrupted by lust.

Hi Jammin,

What do you mean by this? explain??
Are you suggesting we become GOD?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Hi Jammin,

We need to talk about one thing at a time,
with everything being clear; no assumptions.
I can't assume we are defining words the same.
Because clearly you are defining words differently.
We're now discussing the meaning of divine nature.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[jammin]

Quote (Ed J @ May 09 2012,21:56)

Quote (jammin @ May 09 2012,21:45) that's what the bible says 2PET 1.4 MSG The best invitation we ever received! We were also given absolutely terrific promises to pass on to you—your tickets to participation in the life of Godafter you turned your back on a world corrupted by lust. Hi Jammin, What do you mean by this? explain?? Are you suggesting we become GOD? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

did peter say we become GOD?
no!

he said
2PET 1.4 MSG
The best invitation we ever received! We were also given absolutely terrific promises to pass on to you—your tickets to participation in the life of Godafter you turned your back on a world corrupted by lust.

means not the substance of the Godhead, but the partaking of those qualities, by which the image of God is restored in us.

the divine nature-not God's essence, but His holiness, including His “glory” and “virtue,” 2Pe 1:3; the opposite to “corruption through lust.”

2 Peter 1:3-4

Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)
God Has Given Us Everything We Need

3 Jesus has the power of God. And his power has given us everything we need to live a life devoted to God. We have these things because we know him. Jesus chose us by his glory and goodness,

read the context boy LOL

now, answer mine

1).what did john said??

did he say the word is the son of GOD or the holy spirit?
————————————————

2).just pick your answer

wht did peter say in 2 pet 1.4

1.do you exist in the form of God
2. you might be partakers of divine nature.

choose 1 or 2 for your answer

[NickHassan]

Hi Jammin,
Of course Jesus did not become God either.
He is the Son of God

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ May 10 2012,11:24)

Quote (Ed J @ May 09 2012,21:56) Quote (jammin @ May 09 2012,21:45) that's what the bible says 2PET 1.4 MSG The best invitation we ever received! We were also given absolutely terrific promises to pass on to you—your tickets to participation in the life of Godafter you turned your back on a world corrupted by lust. Hi Jammin, What do you mean by this? explain?? Are you suggesting we become GOD? God bless Ed J means not the substance of the Godhead, but the partaking of those qualities, by which the image of God is restored in us. the divine nature-not God's essence, but His holiness, including His “glory” and “virtue,” 2Pe 1:3; the opposite to “corruption through lust.”

Hi Jammin,

Thanks for your explanation of what you believe “divine nature” means!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ May 10 2012,11:24)

what did john said?? did he say the word is the son of GOD or the holy spirit?

Hi Jammin, (Question #6)

He said: “The Word” was GOD. (John 1:1)

Do you deny that the “HolySpirit” is GOD?      <– Please answer

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Here's the list of my terms…

GOD:  the creator of the universe.
NATURE:  the physical world collectively.

I will be referring to my terms in our discussions.

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God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[mikeboll64]

jammin,

I don't know why Ed won't just answer your question with the choices you gave.  After all, you quoted what Peter said WORD FOR WORD as one of your choices.    Ed is always trying to avoid being “trapped” or “tricked”, and so he many times is standoffish when it comes to answering direct questions.

I keep telling him that if he speaks only truth, there is no way anyone can “trap” him.  The ONLY correct answer to your question is # 2.  Peter said, “so that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires”

But I have a simple question for you, okay?

jammin, do you believe that Jesus IS the very God he is the Son OF?  Yes or No?

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ May 10 2012,11:24)

just pick your answer wht did peter say in 2 pet 1.4 1.do you exist in the form of God 2. you might be partakers of divine nature. choose 1 or 2 for your answer

Hi Jammin,

Here is the verse, so you can clearly see what is written in this verse,
But it is nevertheless connected to what the Apostle Paul said in Phil.2:5-6
Your attempts to try to get me to detach these interconective meanings is futile.

2) “According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness,
through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: Whereby are given unto us exceeding
great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature,
having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.” (2 Peter 1:3-4)

1) 2:5 τουτο γαρ φρονεισθω εν υμιν ο και εν χριστω ιησου
2:6 ος εν μορφη θεου υπαρχων ουχ αρπαγμον ηγησατο το ειναι ισα θεω

(Phil 2:5-6) 2:5 This understanding is in you in Christ Jesus:
2:6 In the form that God exists, think it not robbery to be considered equal.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 10 2012,13:08)

jammin, I don't know why Ed won't just answer your question with the choices you gave.  After all, you quoted what Peter said WORD FOR WORD as one of your choices.    Ed is always trying to avoid being “trapped” or “tricked”, and so he many times is standoffish when it comes to answering direct questions. I keep telling him that if he speaks only truth, there is no way anyone can “trap” him.  The ONLY correct answer to your question is # 2.  Peter said, “so that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires” But I have a simple question for you, okay? jammin, do you believe that Jesus IS the very God he is the Son OF?  Yes or No?

Hi Mike,

You can see what's written there, I can see what's written there and so can Jammin; so lets not play dumb!
He doesn't need my approval to believe how he interprets the verses any more than you do.

His question is not one of information, not one of agreement, just a feeble attempt
to bully me with restrictive choices.   …and I'm not playing that game, sorry!

I started a thread to explain to YOU why this unsavory tactic
of restrictive answer choices serves no purpose. (Link)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[jammin]

yes mike
edj is not answering my question
so im asking it again to him

edj, answer mine

1).what did john said in john 1.1-18??

did he say the word is the son of GOD or the holy spirit?
————————————————

2).just pick your answer

wht did peter say in 2 pet 1.4

1.do you exist in the form of God
2. you might be partakers of divine nature.

choose 1 or 2 for your answer

[jammin]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 10 2012,13:08)

jammin, I don't know why Ed won't just answer your question with the choices you gave.  After all, you quoted what Peter said WORD FOR WORD as one of your choices.    Ed is always trying to avoid being “trapped” or “tricked”, and so he many times is standoffish when it comes to answering direct questions. I keep telling him that if he speaks only truth, there is no way anyone can “trap” him.  The ONLY correct answer to your question is # 2.  Peter said, “so that through them you may participate in the divine nature and escape the corruption in the world caused by evil desires” But I have a simple question for you, okay? jammin, do you believe that Jesus IS the very God he is the Son OF?  Yes or No?

i believe mike that jesus is the son of GOD. yes it is correct BUT you have to complete what the bible says.

the bible says that Christ is the son of GOD, and he is also GOD by nature.

Philippians 2:6

New International Version (NIV)

6 Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;

[Ed J]

Hi Jammin,

Here is what Phil 2:5-6 really says…

2:5 τουτο γαρ φρονεισθω εν υμιν ο και εν χριστω ιησου
2:6 ος εν μορφη θεου υπαρχων ουχ αρπαγμον ηγησατο το ειναι ισα θεω

(Phil 2:5-6) 2:5 This understanding is in you in Christ Jesus:
2:6 In the form that God exists, think it not robbery to be considered equal.

This is the “divine nature” THAT YOU MIGHT someday hav. (NOTE: see highlighted part)

“According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness,
through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: Whereby are given unto us exceeding
great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature,
having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.” (2 Peter 1:3-4)

That is of course if you ever put on the “New Man”! (Eph.4:24)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)

[Ed J]

Something you share with Mike:

Any answer that is not answered in the way you believe it should.
You call it as not being answered; but that IS REALLY A LIE!

[Ed J]

Quote (jammin @ May 09 2012,01:57)

i already answered your questions edj. but if you want to repeat my anwer then ill repeat it Question #2: are you suggesting that Mary is(?) the mother of God? answer: your question is not specific, bec in the bible the son is GOD by nature. the father is also GOD by nature. who is the GOD you are referring to? the father or the son?

OK back to the REAL questions; not the rhetorical FAKE ones you try to pass of as legit.

Since you call Jesus: “GOD” (NOTE: the creator of the universe.)…
…are you suggesting that Mary is(?) the mother of God?

your question is not specific   …FALSE it is very specific!   …Now will you please answer this question?

(2.A.) who is the GOD you are referring to?   …How many God's are there?   …I know of only one.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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