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- April 28, 2012 at 8:41 am#295339jamminParticipant
the term might be partakers of divine nature is not the same as being in the form of GOD.
do you understand this? LOLi think you must go back to grade 1 and study hard boy LOL
April 28, 2012 at 8:42 am#295340jamminParticipantdid peter say in 2 pet that you have the “FORM OF GOD?” or did he say that you might be partakers of divine nature?
April 28, 2012 at 8:49 am#295344Ed JParticipantQuote (jammin @ April 28 2012,19:41) the term might be partakers of divine nature is not the same as being in the form of GOD.
do you understand this? LOLi think you must go back to grade 1 and study hard boy LOL
Hi Jammin,2:5 τουτο γαρ φρονεισθω εν υμιν ο και εν χριστω ιησου
2:6 ος εν μορφη θεου υπαρχων ουχ αρπαγμον ηγησατο το ειναι ισα θεω(Phil 2:5-6) 2:5 This understanding is in you in Christ Jesus:
2:6 In the form that God exists, think it not robbery to be considered equal.Kinda backs up what 2Peter 1:4 says, huh?
“Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises:
that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature,
having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. (2 Peter 1:4)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgApril 28, 2012 at 9:19 am#295346jamminParticipantyes edj,
did peter said in 2 pet that you exist in the form of GOD or you might be partakers in divine nature?
April 28, 2012 at 9:44 am#295350Ed JParticipantQuote (jammin @ April 28 2012,20:19) yes edj, did peter said in 2 pet that you exist in the form of GOD or you might be partakers in divine nature?
Hi Jammin,Both verses that you are citing are posted in my last post.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgApril 28, 2012 at 9:46 am#295351jamminParticipantdid peter say that you exist in the form of GOD?
April 28, 2012 at 9:57 am#295353Ed JParticipantQuote (jammin @ April 28 2012,20:46) did peter say that you exist in the form of GOD?
Hi Jammin,Speak English, what are “YOU” trying to say?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgApril 28, 2012 at 10:25 am#295355jamminParticipantis that an arabic word???
in 2 pet 1.4, what did peter say
1. do you exist in the form of GOD
2. you might be partakers of divine naturepls choose your answer.
April 28, 2012 at 11:08 am#295360Ed JParticipantHi Jammin,
I have the nature of the “New Man”; this is available to you as well!
Ephesians 4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God
is created in righteousness and true holiness. (see 2Peter 1:4)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgApril 28, 2012 at 1:33 pm#295366jamminParticipantill repeat
in 2 pet 1.4, what did peter say1. do you exist in the form of GOD
2. you might be partakers of divine naturepls choose your answer.
April 28, 2012 at 2:00 pm#295372mikeboll64BlockedQuote (jammin @ April 28 2012,01:58) mike you dont understand what im saying.
i did not say that the son is also the father. just like you mike, your father is not you. you are also not your father but you 2 have the same nature, MAN.the father is truly GOD by nature, the son is also truly GOD by nature.
I do understand what you're saying, jammin.I agree that my father is MAN, and since I share his nature, I am also MAN. But we could equally say that my father is a man, and since I share his nature, I am also a man, right?
Jehovah is a god, and since his Son shares His nature, he is also a god. But of those two gods mentioned, only one of them is God Most High, who created the heavens, the earth, and everything in them. Jesus is not that One, but the Son OF that One.
Surely you understand that even though I share a nature with my father, we are two completely different BEINGS/ENTITIES, right? So why, when it comes to Jesus and the One who begot him, do you nonsensically claim that this particular Father and Son ARE the same exact BEING/ENTITY?
Has there ever been a father and a son who have been the same exact BEING? Is that the case with any human being you know? If WE are not made in a way that a father is the same BEING as his son, and WE are made in the image of God, then why would you make the unscriptural and unsubstantiated claim that God and His Son are the same BEING?
Also, do you know of any son who existed from the moment his father existed? Or do sons ALWAYS come later in time than their fathers? Why then, would you assume that Jesus the Son of God didn't also come later in time than the Father who begot him?
So I do truly understand what you're trying to say. It's just that I don't see any scriptural or logical reason for you to make these claims.
April 28, 2012 at 7:41 pm#295391NickHassanParticipantHi MB,
Neither is polytheism of faith.April 28, 2012 at 7:45 pm#295392mikeboll64BlockedThat's just what theologians say, Nick. The actual scriptures speak of many gods, over which Jehovah is the Most High God.
April 28, 2012 at 7:49 pm#295394NickHassanParticipantHi MB,
You choose to stay in this teaching because you know Jesus of Nazareth was not a man in heaven and you have to find a place for him there?April 28, 2012 at 8:02 pm#295399mikeboll64BlockedHow does that comment even come close to addressing the point I made, Nick? Sometimes I think you are truly daft.
Tell me: DOES the Bible teach of many gods? YES or NO?
DOES the Bible teach that Jehovah is the God OF the other gods? YES or NO?
If you ever get to the point that you can force yourself to begin speaking according to the actual scriptures, you and I might have something worthwhile to talk about. Until then, you are a clanging cymbal.
April 28, 2012 at 8:22 pm#295403NickHassanParticipantHi MB,
Is Jesus Christ greater than the angels?
If you are in him are you too?If so why do you call them your gods?
April 28, 2012 at 8:31 pm#295404mikeboll64BlockedNick,
If you aren't going to address the points and questions addressed to you AFTER you mouth off in one of your famous, condescending, nonsensical comments, then perhaps you shouldn't make the comment in the first place.
April 28, 2012 at 9:30 pm#295408NickHassanParticipantHi MB,
Are you seated with Christ ABOVE the gods you mention?April 29, 2012 at 1:09 am#295427jamminParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ April 29 2012,01:00) Quote (jammin @ April 28 2012,01:58) mike you dont understand what im saying.
i did not say that the son is also the father. just like you mike, your father is not you. you are also not your father but you 2 have the same nature, MAN.the father is truly GOD by nature, the son is also truly GOD by nature.
I do understand what you're saying, jammin.I agree that my father is MAN, and since I share his nature, I am also MAN. But we could equally say that my father is a man, and since I share his nature, I am also a man, right?
Jehovah is a god, and since his Son shares His nature, he is also a god. But of those two gods mentioned, only one of them is God Most High, who created the heavens, the earth, and everything in them. Jesus is not that One, but the Son OF that One.
Surely you understand that even though I share a nature with my father, we are two completely different BEINGS/ENTITIES, right? So why, when it comes to Jesus and the One who begot him, do you nonsensically claim that this particular Father and Son ARE the same exact BEING/ENTITY?
Has there ever been a father and a son who have been the same exact BEING? Is that the case with any human being you know? If WE are not made in a way that a father is the same BEING as his son, and WE are made in the image of God, then why would you make the unscriptural and unsubstantiated claim that God and His Son are the same BEING?
Also, do you know of any son who existed from the moment his father existed? Or do sons ALWAYS come later in time than their fathers? Why then, would you assume that Jesus the Son of God didn't also come later in time than the Father who begot him?
So I do truly understand what you're trying to say. It's just that I don't see any scriptural or logical reason for you to make these claims.
so you accept that you and your father have the same nature.now what is the nature of MAN? do you know mike the answer?
April 29, 2012 at 1:13 am#295428NickHassanParticipantHi Jammin,
The same nature that Jesus of Nazareth had. - AuthorPosts
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