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Hi Jammin,
So there are several possible meanings and only you can show which is true?
What an important role in teaching you have.
Who appointed you?Quote (jammin @ April 27 2012,00:39) read carefully your verse. “might be” partakers of divine nature is not the same as being in the nature of GOD
How do you define the term: “divine nature” then?Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 26 2012,00:57) The blind stumble over this and only until the veil is taken off of their faces and their eyes are opened by the Spirit of revelation can they know the truth.
Keith,Jesus is the one who told us he was less than his own God (who also happens to be OUR one God). Even after being exalted to the highest position he has ever held, he is at the right hand OF God – not God Himself. And he is still a servant OF God – not God Himself.
Also, if one is “the image OF” another, then it is clear that one is NOT that other. So if Jesus is the image OF God, that tells us he is NOT God.
And you could only use John 14:9 as proof that Jesus is God…………IF………….. you consider Jesus to be “the Father”. Do you?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 28 2012,14:09) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 26 2012,00:57) The blind stumble over this and only until the veil is taken off of their faces and their eyes are opened by the Spirit of revelation can they know the truth.
Keith,Jesus is the one who told us he was less than his own God (who also happens to be OUR one God). Even after being exalted to the highest position he has ever held, he is at the right hand OF God – not God Himself. And he is still a servant OF God – not God Himself.
Also, if one is “the image OF” another, then it is clear that one is NOT that other. So if Jesus is the image OF God, that tells us he is NOT God.
And you could only use John 14:9 as proof that Jesus is God…………IF………….. you consider Jesus to be “the Father”. Do you?
Hi Mike,Why do you always add the word “himself”, as if that adds
more power to your words; when is GOD ever not “himself”?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ April 28 2012,14:09) Quote (WorshippingJesus @ April 26 2012,00:57) The blind stumble over this and only until the veil is taken off of their faces and their eyes are opened by the Spirit of revelation can they know the truth.
Keith,Jesus is the one who told us he was less than his own God (who also happens to be OUR one God). Even after being exalted to the highest position he has ever held, he is at the right hand OF God – not God Himself. And he is still a servant OF God – not God Himself.
Also, if one is “the image OF” another, then it is clear that one is NOT that other. So if Jesus is the image OF God, that tells us he is NOT God.
And you could only use John 14:9 as proof that Jesus is God…………IF………….. you consider Jesus to be “the Father”. Do you?
that does not mean that Christ is not equal with GOD “by nature”paul said that Christ is equal with GOD. he IS GOD BY NATURE!
just like you and your father, you father is greater than you mike but you are still MAN. you and your father have the same nature, MAN.
your father is truly MAN, you are truly MAN>Christ is truly GOD by nature mike.
but the son is not the father. the father is not the son but they have the same nature, GODQuote (Ed J @ April 28 2012,00:15) Quote (jammin @ April 27 2012,00:39) read carefully your verse. “might be” partakers of divine nature is not the same as being in the nature of GOD
How do you define the term: “divine nature” then?
give me the verse boy and ill tell you the meaningQuote (jammin @ April 27 2012,23:11) paul said that Christ is equal with GOD. he IS GOD BY NATURE!
No he didn't. Paul said that Jesus was existing in the FORM OF God. The Greek word refers to the outward appearance of a person or thing.Quote (jammin @ April 27 2012,23:12) Christ is truly GOD by nature mike.
but the son is not the father. the father is not the son but they have the same nature, GOD
jammin,Jesus is the Son of God. He is never called “God the Son” in any scripture. This shouldn't be that hard, man.
Is the son of the President of the USA also the President of the USA? Or is he THE SON OF the President?
Think it out, dude. Is the Son of God the very God he is the Son of?
There is but ONE God Most High, and Jesus is not Him, but His SON. (Mark 5:7, Luke 1:32)Quote (jammin @ April 28 2012,16:14) Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2012,00:15) Quote (jammin @ April 27 2012,00:39) read carefully your verse. “might be” partakers of divine nature is not the same as being in the nature of GOD
How do you define the term: “divine nature” then?
give me the verse boy and ill tell you the meaning
Hi Jammin,Here, I have used it in a sentence for you…
The “divine nature” of the LORD is with us.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ April 28 2012,16:28) Quote (jammin @ April 27 2012,23:12) Christ is truly GOD by nature mike.
but the son is not the father. the father is not the son but they have the same nature, GOD
jammin,Jesus is the Son of God. He is never called “God the Son” in any scripture. This shouldn't be that hard, man.
Is the son of the President of the USA also the President of the USA? Or is he THE SON OF the President?
Think it out, dude. Is the Son of God the very God he is the Son of?
There is but ONE God Most High, and Jesus is not Him, but His SON. (Mark 5:7, Luke 1:32)
the president is truly MAN. the son of the president is also truly MAN by nature mike.Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2012,16:46) Quote (jammin @ April 28 2012,16:14) Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2012,00:15) Quote (jammin @ April 27 2012,00:39) read carefully your verse. “might be” partakers of divine nature is not the same as being in the nature of GOD
How do you define the term: “divine nature” then?
give me the verse boy and ill tell you the meaning
Hi Jammin,Here, I have used it in a sentence for you…
The “divine nature” of the LORD is with us.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
give me the versemike you dont understand what im saying.
i did not say that the son is also the father. just like you mike, your father is not you. you are also not your father but you 2 have the same nature, MAN.the father is truly GOD by nature, the son is also truly GOD by nature.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 28 2012,16:24) Quote (jammin @ April 27 2012,23:11) paul said that Christ is equal with GOD. he IS GOD BY NATURE!
No he didn't. Paul said that Jesus was existing in the FORM OF God. The Greek word refers to the outward appearance of a person or thing.
you dont understand greek mike. you must study first greek,Quote (jammin @ April 28 2012,18:57) Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2012,16:46) Quote (jammin @ April 28 2012,16:14) Quote (Ed J @ April 28 2012,00:15) Quote (jammin @ April 27 2012,00:39) read carefully your verse. “might be” partakers of divine nature is not the same as being in the nature of GOD
How do you define the term: “divine nature” then?
give me the verse boy and ill tell you the meaning
Hi Jammin,Here, I have used it in a sentence for you…
The “divine nature” of the LORD is with us.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
give me the verse
2Pt.1:4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises:
that by these ye might be partakers of the “divine nature”, having
escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.it says “might be”
that is not your nature. through God's given promises, you “might be” partakers of his divine nature.not your nature boy, but GOD's nature.
Quote (jammin @ April 28 2012,19:33) it says “might be”
that is not your nature. through God's given promises, you “might be” partakers of his divine nature.not your nature boy, but GOD's nature.
Hi Jammin,Since you say: Christ having God's “divine Nature” makes him God,
do we then also become God when we have God's “divine nature”?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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