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- October 4, 2019 at 2:39 pm#847947ProclaimerParticipant
Explain this if Space doesn’t exist
Way more interesting than your angular sun and moon videos Mike.
October 4, 2019 at 8:00 pm#847950ProclaimerParticipantAnother point totally debunked
Another win for Team Globe as Team Flat have failed to address the following image which shows by their logic that the sun’s altitude is less than 50 metres above sea level.
I think all the Flat Earth arguments have been debunked. If not, which ones are outstanding?
October 11, 2019 at 4:01 pm#847989ProclaimerParticipantFunny As
Seriously though, this is a really bad witness for the true faith.
Imagine how many people are turned off God or the Bible because of foolishness like this.
The true cost to lies is souls.
October 12, 2019 at 3:30 am#847990GeneBalthropParticipantT8…..Good post, it is sad to me that some people seem predesposed to conspiracy theories, the mind without the spirit of truth can reason in ways that the person without it, create their own logic reasonings . That is why the spirit of truth Is so important , it guides our minds into true realities. It does actually sadens me to hear these self decieved people go on pushing away fact, and replacing it wth fiction. My hope is that God the Father would send them the spirit of truth, that can change their cognisity of what is the truth and what is a lie.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene
October 12, 2019 at 8:31 am#847991Dig4truthParticipantI’m not sure if you noticed that the video you posted claimed the Bible was a load of s***. In fact they said you can not use it for pretty much anything. Furthermore, I have to assume you are not ignorant to their foul mouth. Is this the level you have to stoop to to try to disprove a biblical concept? Why not just answer the question, “where’s the curve”?
October 12, 2019 at 12:02 pm#847992ProclaimerParticipantSeriously Dig, dumb Christians have turned off many with regards to the gospel, Bible, and God. These unwise Believers are more interested in conspiracy theories than they are about the souls of men. Every soul that is lost is a tragedy.
Yes, the guy cusses alot, but the point of the video being posted here is to show the damage you guys are doing to the hopes and aspirations for the Kingdom.
A truthful witness saves lives, but one who breathes out lies is deceitful.
October 14, 2019 at 1:29 am#848019Dig4truthParticipantYou didn’t even address the fact that they said the Bible could not be taken as scientific. Really? The Creator doesn’t know how things work? You are the one that has rejected the Scripture. Sun on day 4, earth before the sun, the sun moves and not the earth, the earth is around 6,000 years old, Adam was a literal first man, etc.
She said she is challenging them to find the curve, and he said they are challenging us to find the flat. Well brother we have found the flat! Now where is the curve?
We have done repeated experiments and the curve is not there, at least in the way they tell us it is. Now I suggest you do some work and get off your high horse and bring some evidence to the game. Otherwise just join a group that sits around and complains about other people that are actually accomplishing things.
And if you think Christians are dumb what does that say about you and your comprehension of the scriptures? Either believe the Scripture or not, get off the fence.
October 14, 2019 at 9:32 am#848022ProclaimerParticipantYou didn’t even address the fact that they said the Bible could not be taken as scientific.
That perfectly fits in with my argument. These guys know little about the Bible and of course when people say the world is flat because the Bible says so, then they will think it is a book of myths or false science that is like believing in Bigfoot.
Then when the Bible says God exists, he lives us, and sent us a messiah to save us from our own sins, then what do you think they will think of that message? It is relegated next to the false notion of a flat earth.
No good comes from a lie and a false witness deceives men.
The gospel is about the power to save men. What happens if you also tell the list that the same book teaches the Earth is flat? The worse part is you have zero scriptures for this hypothesis. You are doing more damage than you know. And we are all judged by our own words and teachings.
October 14, 2019 at 10:38 am#848023mikeboll64BlockedD4T, it appears as if T8 is one of those educated Christians (at the 2:17 mark) who prefer praise from men to praise from the one who actually made this world and described it to us in his written word.
T8, pay close attention to what your high priest says at the beginning of his speech. He’s talking about you as one of those who use reverse-interpretation to force a scientism view of the world back into God’s Holy Scriptures…
October 14, 2019 at 11:26 am#848025ProclaimerParticipantThere will always be those who think the Bible is not truth. Flat Earthers are not helping them right?
No good comes from a lie, correct?
False teaching is like a little yeast that spreads through the whole batch of dough!
And all lies have the same source, the Father of Lies.
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
NOTE: I am not saying you are from the Father of Lies, but pointing out that lies come from the Devil. You guys are playing with fire.
October 14, 2019 at 11:29 am#848026ProclaimerParticipantWhen I was an Atheist, most of my views about God were formed by the opinions of others, false teaching at school, and the bad witness of some Christians. Remember that those who claim to be children of God or students of the book are responsible for the witness they give.
Jesus said to his disciples: “Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come.
Go back to fighting for the truth is my advice. Stop wasting your life on end times myths.
October 14, 2019 at 11:31 am#848027mikeboll64BlockedYou just keep following your high priest from that video – the one who says that stars can’t fall to the earth, and says faith and reason can’t be reconciled – and we’ll follow OUR High Priest, who says stars WILL fall to the earth, and that faith the size of a mustard seed can move a mountain.
October 14, 2019 at 11:37 am#848029mikeboll64BlockedBtw, many thousands have come TO the Creator through the Biblical earth movement. You and your high priests of scientism are the stumbling blocks.
October 14, 2019 at 11:44 am#848030mikeboll64BlockedDidn’t you find it telling that even an atheist like NDT recognizes how people like you have to twist the scriptures to fit the scientism view of the world into the scriptures? The “scientists” see what you do and praise you for being so enlightened for forsaking the scriptures in favor of their ridiculous worldview. I only wonder why YOU can’t see what you’re doing – and why.
October 14, 2019 at 12:15 pm#848031ProclaimerParticipantBtw, many thousands have come TO the Creator through the Biblical earth movement. You and your high priests of scientism are the stumbling blocks.
BS. Few, some, but not many. And when they find out the FE is false, then what? They fall away? Foolish teaching and false witness regarding what the Bible says does harm. It reinforces the false narrative that it is an out of date book. I know Atheists who laugh at the FE through Facebook. It makes them feel secure about their sin because they hope there is no God and FE feeds into the lie they are under by showing them that the Bible is wrong.
The worse part is you cannot even point to one verse that teaches a FE but carry on as if the good book teaches it. That is a blatant lie.
Shame on you guys.
October 14, 2019 at 12:17 pm#848032ProclaimerParticipantAnd stop smoking the wacky backy.
October 14, 2019 at 1:17 pm#848033ProclaimerParticipantYou just keep following your high priest from that video
NDT and myself are poles apart. He is an Atheist and myself a Theist.
NDT also believes that plants grow from seeds, so according to your logic, he is your high priest too, (assuming you believe that of course).
I am sure that most people I disagree with believe that the earth is a globe and that oxygen is in the air. That doesn’t put us into some kind of club or group.
October 14, 2019 at 1:20 pm#848035ProclaimerParticipantFurther, NDT probably thinks Christians are fools and FEs only support this narrative.
Can you not see how you are playing into his hands and the hands of the god of this world?
October 14, 2019 at 1:20 pm#848037mikeboll64BlockedDeGrasse Tyson, Wikipedia, and every serious Bible scholar in the world – Christian or secular – knows that the Bible is a flat earth book that teaches of a firmament in which are the sun, moon and stars. These honest scholars also realize that people like you are forced to twist the scriptures in ridiculous ways to force fit the scientism worldview into the scriptures.
Do YOU realize it? Yes or no, please?
Btw, just Google “biblical cosmology” and see what comes up. Because, like your high priest said in that video, ANYONE who takes the scriptures for what they actually say has to admit that it is 100% irreconcilable with the heliocentric model. So there is a divide. There are atheists who believe scientism, Biblical creationists who take scripture at face value, and so-called Christians who want to reconcile both irreconcilable worldviews. And the saddest part is that there has NEVER existed a single shred of empirical scientific evidence for the atheist’s worldview that the third group tries so desperately to force into the Bible.
October 14, 2019 at 1:27 pm#848038mikeboll64BlockedT8, did God stop the movement of the sun and the moon… or the earth?
What is the SCRIPTURAL answer?
And is that also YOUR answer?
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