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T8: It’s not that the amount of molecules don’t matter, it’s just that it is double. Are you saying it is like the richer scale where a 7. 0 quake is double compared to a 6.8? In other words not an even incremental increase.
Here’s a thought, why don’t you do a little research and figure it out. I have tried to explain it to you and provided enough links that you can do the math for yourself.
Ok, on the first video his number one proof is that the horizon looks flat. Hmm. Sounds like that’s a score for the biblical cosmological side and not the globe.
But it gets better. The second point is the “curve calculator”. Remember that thing WE tried to get YOU to look at t8? Anyway, there are too many posts on here where we have proven that what we can observe contradicts the globe earth math. A prime example is Mike’s latest video from the Salton Sea! That is a firsthand observation that the curve calculator doesn’t work with biblical cosmology.
Next the ship over the horizon, yawn, How many times do we need to debunk this claim?
The Chicago skyline is still being claimed to be a mirage? Even after Rob Skiba charted a boat with a captain and filmed the entire journey to prove it was NO mirage? But I guess when you are trying to simply uphold an agenda rather than find the truth it doesn’t matter that much.
Not real impressed with the first video, nothing new with much outdated and debunked material. Not sure if I’ll waste any time on the rest. We’ll see.
T8: The points made in these videos completely debunks the Flat Earth. There is no come back from here for Team Flat Earth. Team Globe wins.
Great… we can finally settle the matter then! But first, a litmus test…
Go through the videos and eliminate every “proof” that regular people like you and I can’t verify for ourselves. Then if there’s anything left, pick the best and lay it on us. Let’s find out if it stands up to a little scrutiny.
In the meantime, I’m still waiting to hear why NASA’s vacuum chamber needs 8 foot thick concrete and steel walls when the ISS only needs quarter inch aluminum.
Mike…..Come on, I know by now you surely know the earth is round. These last 4 posts T8 posted prove beyond a doubt that the earth is round. I believe you have come to see that a while back. It’s time you come over and get involved with the other threads going on here. Put you mind to work on the thing that really matters brother.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
T8…..thanks for all the time you have taken to help us all better understand this subject.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Gene, flat earth has led more hard core atheists to God than anything in recent history. I think that’s important, don’t you?
Mike…..What ever leads anyone to God the Father is Good, so perhaps some good did come from all this, if anyone followed all this flat earth stuff, to it conclusions, probably do have a lot better understanding about our earth and our Great creator, at least they should.
I like the fact you do look at both sides of things, even when we descuss scriptures, you seem open and are seeking truth.
I believe T8 has layed out for us all a clearer understanding, so I give him a lot of credit on this even though I don’t always agree with him on some other scriptural topics.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
Fair enough, Gene. But remember that these hard core atheists who believed in Big Bang, evolution, and called us idiots for believing in a Creator didn’t just turn their entire worldview around on a whim. They were fighting the flat earth even harder than you, because they realized it meant there WAS a Creator – and they had been 100% wrong about EVERYTHING, and now had to eat crow AND repent! 😊 So surely you can understand that they didn’t come to their conclusion easily. There are only two kinds of people… those who believe in a globe earth, and those who have researched it for themselves and discovered the truth. The Bible supports the latter group.
Gene, I’m glad that you have found something that you believe is solid truth about this topic. Would you be willing to open up one of those truths to a debate? Which is the strongest point to you?
I went to a new congregation last week and they are a biblical cosmologist congregation! It was a great experience. In the scriptures (that were not even related to that topic) it was apparent that the truth of the biblical cosmology was everywhere to be seen.
I would be very sad to think I had to deny Scripture to “fit in” with the church I attended.
Look at Psalms 19:
The heavens are telling of the glory of God;
And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands.
2 Day to day pours forth speech,
And night to night reveals knowledge.
3 There is no speech, nor are there words;
Their voice is not heard.
4 Their line has gone out through all the earth,
And their utterances to the end of the world.
In them He has placed a tent for the sun,
5 Which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber;
It rejoices as a strong man to run his course.
6 Its rising is from one end of the heavens,
And its circuit to the other end of them;
And there is nothing hidden from its heat.So we can clearly see that from Scripture the sun runs his course. It rises. It has a circuit.
However, to believe the current “science” we would have to deny such clear Scripture and make excuses such as we could not know about such things so God had to speak in “our language”. But this could not be the case because there are many other examples where the scriptures speak of scientific things that have not been discovered until our recent generations.
So the bottom line is who do you decide to believe?
Excellent posts, D4T! I was also thinking about asking Gene which of the fantastic proofs T8 has offered is the most compelling… but I knew from past experience that it wouldn’t go anywhere. It’s fantastic that you found such a congregation as the one you described. Hopefully they follow accurate Biblical teachings on the other matters as well.
Mike……You mean you are still not convience the earth is Round? Yet. All the last 4 vido posts are apsolutely right. I thought you were intellegent enough to understand them, maybe I was mistaking, they were so clear and easely provable.
ARE YOU STILL A BELIEVER IN A FLAT EARTH?
Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
Mike…..Every point he made was apsolutely right. Why can’t you understand them, is it not because you already have a mind set that lets nothing anyone says against the flat earth therioies in, you blocked and dismiss it before you can even think about it. IMO
I THOUGHT YOU WERE MORE OPEN MINDED THEN THIS, O WELL I GUESS I WAS WRONG.
Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
Gene, if every point was absolutely right, then it should be no problem for you to just pick one, right? So why haven’t you done what I’ve asked?
(D4T, now you know why I didn’t bother before. Gene will never pick a point to discuss. He will just keep repeating that all the globe points are correct and leave it at that.)
I’ve seen it over and over! He never will because then he would have to defend what he is blindly accepting. t8 does the same thing in a similar way. He will address a point but when the facts don’t fit his agenda he will just ignore them. Both are the epitome of indoctrination.
Pick one Gene.
Facts or poorly understood ideas?
I have debunked for myself many of your points and these are not usually brought up anymore.
Sure I haven’t debunked all things, but that requires time and dedication. I give what spare time I have, so not going to cover everything.
And you are the guys who ignore facts considering you are making this your prime mission in life instead of the Kingdom.
I pointed out how you take examples of pressure and apply it to reverse example. That is, you use small containers with less pressure surround by an ocean of higher pressure to prove the opposite condition which is high pressure surrounded by an ocean of lower pressure.
I gave a car tyre as a fair example of the facts, you give a coke can with lower pressure sitting in the massive atmosphere of higher pressure.
Further, those videos debunk many of your points that I haven’t already debunked if you bother to watch them. It gives fair animations to understand what is going on.
I find you guys hide behind the fact that many people cannot really visualize your 2D examples in 3D. When I have actually bothered to do so by bring out soccer balls, I debunked you.
Just because we don’t have time to debunk everything you say, do not mistake that for your view point being correct. I also have little to no time to debunk the hollow earth or advanced civilizations on Antarctica, and of course any sensible person is not going to think that is proof of these being real.
t8, did you know that the only thing you debunked was your ability to understand the facts?
Did you know that 14.7 psi equals 10 tons of force per square meter (760 tor).
The railroad tanker cars that you see collapse has only 3.4 psi on the interior.
The pressure at 100 km (62 miles) which is called the Karman Line [where “space” is supposed to begin] is .000002 psi or (10(-3) tor)
The strongest vacuum chamber is said to go to (10(-6) tor) which is 1,000 times stronger than that of the “where space begins” Karmen Line.
The vacuum on the moon is said to be (10(-11) tor) which is 100,000,000 times stronger than the Karman Line! [Yes, that’s one hundred million times stronger!)
And then there are “other things” that must be taken into account if the moon mission is to be believed with the facts that NASA tells us. I’m sorry but they can’t have it both ways. Watch the video and see what you think – in fact think for yourself.
By the way t8 and Gene, the vacuum on the moon given to us by NASA’s numbers equates to -2,000,000,000 psi! That’s negative 2 billion psi!
T8, what particular point have you debunked? Name just one. Then name the very best proof in your latest “I’m too lazy to look at this for myself, so I just spam the thread with videos I didn’t even watch/understand” offering and let’s discuss it.
And finally, I’m STILL waiting for your answer to WHY NASA’s vacuum chamber needs 8 foot thick concrete and steel walls. What is your answer?
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