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- May 30, 2018 at 6:26 am#829738JodiParticipant
Anthony,
God DNA? What are you talking about?
DNA is a creation of God, everything on earth and earth itself God created through combinations of elements from the periodic table, ingredients of which He created.
He has different recipes so to speak, and there is one recipe that makes up a human, and there are variations within, but all have the same elements that define them as a human. He can give humans immortality and if you are a perfected human, one who fully follows the path and will of God, you are given immortality for an eternity.
Jesus was made of human DNA, to deny this is to completely deny the man that brought us redemption.
You have been reduced to speculating absurdities not found in scripture because you are trying to fit a false Jesus created by pagans into scripture!
Apparently “of the SEED of David” is pure vanity to you.
Please tell me how Acts 13 fits in with your theology?
May 30, 2018 at 7:08 am#829739AnthonyParticipantPlease I know God created DNA God gievs immortality after the resurrectionodi no sooner even if you think your perfect Jodi.you deny scripture that come right out and say that Jesus pre-existed with His Father. What kind of cult you in to, you think playing with God’s word is Ok. later Jodi I’ll send you just scripture proofing that Jesus was with Him in the beginning you won’t believe them your crafty. are Gene and Nick your followers.
May 30, 2018 at 7:16 am#829740AnthonyParticipantman has seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he has declared him.”
- John 1:18
“… Not that any man [no man] has seen the Father,save he which is of God,he [Jesus Himself] has seen the Father.’”
- John 6:46
Questions: When did Jesus “see” the Father? I see no indication in the New Testament narratives or Gospels that Jesus at any time “saw” the Father anytime after His birth and before His death, do you? Flesh and blood cannot see God. We know that from John 1:18 from commentary by the apostle John. We know that Jesus saw the devil because He was tempted by him. 6 Did Jesus “see” the Father AFTER His birth when He was flesh and blood? If so, then show me.
May 30, 2018 at 7:21 am#829741JodiParticipantAnthony,
Adam and Eve had immortality until they sinned. Jesus was given immortality for eternity.
May 30, 2018 at 7:22 am#829742NickHassanParticipantHi Anthony,
God loves you.
He wants to show you everything.
But you need to receive of His Spirit to begin the journey.
Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.
Matt 5.6
If anyone in thirsty let him come to me and drink. He who believes in me, as the scriptures said
’From his innermost being will flow rivers of living water’
But this he spoke of the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were yet to receive..
Jn 7.37
Know your needs.
May 30, 2018 at 7:23 am#829743AnthonyParticipantHello you still there I’m waiting your pretty quick with deception
May 30, 2018 at 7:25 am#829744NickHassanParticipantHi Jodi,
Yes Adam and Eve had the opportunity to eat from the tree of life till access to it was taken away.
May 30, 2018 at 7:27 am#829745NickHassanParticipantHi Anthony,
If you have become accustomed to bad food then the manna from heaven seems too strange.
May 30, 2018 at 7:31 am#829746LightenupParticipantHi Jodi,
I’m sorry if I missed your answer to my question which I will repeat here. I asked it on May 25th.
Hi Jodi,
I am not asking you who is Jesus spiritual Father after his baptism. I am asking you who is his spiritual Father before baptism, if it wasn’t God. You seem to be saying that God was only Jesus’ spiritual Father after baptism and not before because you say that Jesus was only the Son of God after his baptism, not before. Please tell me who’s spiritual son was he before he got baptized at the Jordan and became the spiritual son of God.
Please keep it as simple and short as you can, there is no reason for a lengthy answer with this. Thanks, LU
May 30, 2018 at 7:31 am#829747NickHassanParticipantHi Anthony,
By the use of his spiritual eyes.
Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father.
May 30, 2018 at 7:34 am#829748AnthonyParticipantNick please you come right out and deny scripture too show me when Jesus saw the Father end his birth till his death on the cross show me Nick there not there are they out right deny scripture.
May 30, 2018 at 7:40 am#829749AnthonyParticipantShow me without peeps and mumers. Don’t play with God word. Show me Nick or anyone
May 30, 2018 at 7:46 am#829750NickHassanParticipantHi Anthony,
Only God can show you what you want to see.
He is close to every man and He wants you to seek.
We can only poorly reflect to others what he shows to us
May 30, 2018 at 7:49 am#829751JodiParticipantAnthony,
You do realize that this passage was written after people saw Jesus raised from the dead right?
17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.Jesus the Christ (the only man to be anointed with God’s Spirit, being born AGAIN of water and of the Spirit without measure) sits at the right hand of God as the SON of MAN, and is returning as the SON of MAN. When the author wrote this Jesus was SITTING at the right hand of God, and the author knew it. He is currently in the presence of God, as Jesus himself said that to reach the Kingdom of God you have to be BORN AGAIN of water and of the Spirit. This Jesus the CHRIST had declared God to them.John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born? 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Mark 1:10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:
We even have Moses being referenced in this passage, and what did Moses say,Acts 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.What did Jesus say,Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted*, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, 19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
A pre-existent son didn’t declare God to the people, the anointed man of the seed of David DECLARED God and His Kingdom.Anthony do you have scripture that speaks of a pre-existing son being born of water and of the Spirit?I believe the scripture that speaks of the MAN born of the seed of David that was then begotten by God at the river when he was around 30 years old. Did you know that research has established that the human brain is fully developed around the age of 30? There are several reasons WHY God had declared to king David that on a CERTAIN DAY He would beget the SEED of DAVID with His Spirit and call that seed His Son.May 30, 2018 at 8:02 am#829752NickHassanParticipantHi Anthony,
Man wants to understand first before he trusts. He is desperately reliant on his eyes and on his mind.
Peter caught a glimpse when he walked on the water but as soon as he needed to know how he sank.
Did the true followers of the Lord understand what he meant when he said his flesh was real food?
No. But their strength of belief in God and the Son held them till the Spirit later gave them light.
jn 6.61
…“Does this cause you to stumble. What then if you see the Son of Man ascending to where he was before?
It is the Spirit that gives life; the words I have spoken to you are spirit and are life’
6.67
So Jesus said to the 12
’You do not want to go away also, do you?’
Simon Peter answered him
’ Lord, to whom shall we go? You have words of eternal life. We have believed and come to know that you are the Holy One Of God’
May 30, 2018 at 8:09 am#829753AnthonyParticipantWhen did Jesus seen the Father, didn’t your read what I sent. that should be enough. Show me from the time of his birth in till His death on the cross. show me that one thing. K. what don’t you know, about what I’m saying!
May 30, 2018 at 8:32 am#829754JodiParticipantAnthony,
John 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. 46 Not that any man hath seen the Father, save he which is of God, he hath seen the Father.
That which is of God has seen the Father,
1 John 3:
7 Little children, let no one lead you astray; he who is doing the righteousness is righteous,
9 every one who hath been begotten of God, sin he doth not, because his seed in him doth remain, and he is not able to sin, because of God he hath been begotten. 10 In this manifest are the children of God
23 and this is His command, that we may believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, seed –“of divine energy of the Holy Spirit operating within the soul by which we are regenerated”Must you forget, or do you deny Anthony that Jesus the seed of David was born of God on a CERTAIN DAY?
John 6:
61 When Jesus knew in himself that his disciples murmured at it, he said unto them, Doth this offend you? 62 What and if ye shall see the Son of man ascend up where he was before? 63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh* profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.John 16:16 A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father. 17 Then said some of his disciples among themselves, What is this that he saith unto us,A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again,a little while, and ye shall see me: and,Because I go to the Father? 18 They said therefore, What is this that he saith,A little while? we cannot tell what he saith.19 Now Jesus knew that they were desirous to ask him, and said unto them, Do ye enquire among yourselves of that I said, A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me?20 Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice: and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.21 A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world. 22 And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.Jesus was on the earth and he died but he rose from the dead and appeared to many, this is HOW his disciples would SEE him ascend where he was before.Upon reading the below scripture Anthony keep in mind that it is the man of the seed of David that was born of the Father at the river,John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.7 If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us.9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.John 1030 I and my Father are one. 31 Then the Jews took up stones again to stone him. 32 Jesus answered them,Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me? 33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. 34 Jesus answered them,Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? 35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?The word of God came by the one that was sanctified, born of the Spirit at the river where afterwards Jesus was sent out to the world to preach about His Father. If you see Jesus in truth you have seen the Father, because the Spirit of the Father lives in Jesus. Jesus was able to see the Father within himself, as the Father was in him.May 30, 2018 at 8:33 am#829755NickHassanParticipantHi Anthony,
God is invisible so Jesus of Nazareth, and you and I cannot see Him
The Spirit of Christ proceeded forth and came from God.
Why do you think the Spirit did not know God?
Those anointed of God, like Jesus Christ, can SEE God spiritually.
Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God. Matt 5.8
May 30, 2018 at 8:38 am#829756AnthonyParticipantNo man has seen Godat any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he has declared him.”
John 1:18
“… Not that any man [no man] has seen the Father, save he which is of God, he [Jesus Himself] has seen the Father.’”
John 6:46
Questions: When did Jesus “see” the Father? I see no indication in the New Testament narratives or Gospels that Jesus at any time “saw” the Father anytime after His incarnation and before His death, do you? Flesh and blood cannot see God. We know that from John 1:18 from commentary by the apostle John. We know that Jesus saw the devil because He was tempted by him. 6 Did Jesus “see” the Father AFTER His incarnation, when He was flesh and blood? If so, then show me.
May 30, 2018 at 8:43 am#829757JodiParticipantAnthony,
Can we establish that the scriptures speak of Jesus being born of God at the river? That from that DAY he was begotten of God, and that the Father was in him through His Spirit that was GIVEN with NO LIMITATION? That when scripture speaks of His Only Begotten Son being sent it is from this DAY?
If Jesus says that to see him is to see the Father, then it is FACT that Jesus saw the Father within himself, on the day that he was sanctified with the Father’s Spirit, he saw the Father continuously until he died, and then again now that he is raised from the dead.
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