Firstborn of/over all creation

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  • #387316
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,
    Yes when you receive power you will see.

    #387317
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    So they saw him ENTER HEAVEN?

    #387321
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2014,08:04)
    Hi T,
    So they saw him ENTER HEAVEN?


    N

    Ac 1:11 “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”

    have a look what scriptures says

    #387322
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2014,08:03)
    Hi T,
    Yes when you receive power you will see.


    N

    see what ???

    #387325
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Can you see heaven?

    #387328
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2014,08:14)
    Hi T,
    Can you see heaven?


    N

    yes I can ,but not all the heavenS

    #387330
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    So not the highest heaven we were discussing?

    #387333
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2014,08:20)
    Hi T,
    So not the highest heaven we were discussing?


    N

    as for what it was discussed you did not say that it is the heaven of God almighty that you discuss with us ,

    you did not mention it no were ,

    but if you want to discuss it I be pleased to do so ,

    #387338
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 05 2014,19:36)
    No what is written is quite sufficient.


    Agreed. And what is written is that Jesus was the son of Mary – according to the flesh – just like I said.

    And that Jesus was existing in the form of God before he was made into the likeness of a human being – just like I said.

    And that Jesus is the one who said the words of John 6:38 – just like I said.

    I'm not doing any ADDING to the scriptures, Nick…………. you are.

    #387342
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    You say
    “And that Jesus was existing in the form of God before he was made into the likeness of a human being “

    Scripture does not say Jesus
    It says Jesus CHRIST.

    Now tell us when the anointing Spirit began?

    #387498
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 06 2014,08:44)
    Hi MB,
    You say
    “And that Jesus was existing in the form of God before he was made into the likeness of a human being “

    Scripture does not say Jesus
    It says Jesus CHRIST.

    Now tell us when the anointing Spirit began?


    NICK

    FROM START TO FINISH

    Ge 3:15 And I will put enmity
    between you and the woman,
    and between your offspring and hers;
    he will crush your head,
    and you will strike his heel.”

    #387536
    942767
    Participant

    Hi Mike:

    So you stumble at the following:

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    In John 6, Jesus said, “I came down from heaven……… What if you see me ascend to where I was before?”

    You know the son of man did ascend into heaven after his resurrection, but how did he come down from heaven? He did not come down as he “son of man” did he? He, his flesh was conceived of the Holy Ghost in the womb of the virgin Mary. This is how his body and his soul originated, before this he was foreordained and was with the Father as someone to be manifest to us at a specific point in time to be offered as a sacrifice for the sins of humanity to reconcile all men unto Himself, and it was. His spirit was formed by the Word of God that was with the Father, and was spoken to humanity through him in the time of his ministry on earth, and he obeyed it, the Word of God, without sin unto death on the cross. It was the Father dwelling within him that spoke to humanity. God knew that he would do this from the foundation of the world.

    There is scripture to back up these statements.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #387537
    942767
    Participant

    Hi Pierre:

    What about the virgin Mary, was she born in sin?

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #387538
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi 94,
    Are there exceptions to jb 25?

    “How then can a man be just with God?
    Or how can he be clean who is born of woman?
    5 “If even the moon has no brightness
    And the stars are not pure in His sight,
    6 How much less man, that maggot,
    And the son of man, that worm!”

    #387540
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi 94,
    The catholics reason Mary must have been perfect to bear Jesus.
    The call her the mother of God and worship her.

    But Jesus was an overcomer
    rev 3.21

    #387542
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2014,16:39)
    Hi 94,
    Are there exceptions to jb 25?

    “How then can a man be just with God?
    Or how can he be clean who is born of woman?
    5 “If even the moon has no brightness
    And the stars are not pure in His sight,
    6 How much less man, that maggot,
    And the son of man, that worm!”


    Hi Nick:

    We all as infants were born in innocence, including the Lord, but all men born of the sperm of man have sinned, including the virgin Mary. Now if the church preaches the doctrine of “orignal sin” which states that “all men were born sinners”, and Jesus was born of a woman who was a sinner, then wouldn't he also be tainted?

    The Catholic church realizes this and states that “the virgin Mary was born sinless”. They do this do protect their “false doctrine”.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #387544
    NickHassan
    Participant

    hi 94,
    Innocence is not having submitted to inner lusts [Jas]
    The glory of Jesus is that he never sinned.
    Instead he overcame sin in the flesh

    #387546
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2014,17:31)
    hi 94,
    Innocence is not having submitted to inner lusts [Jas]
    The glory of Jesus is that he never sinned.
    Instead he overcame sin in the flesh


    That is true Jesus was born in innocence, and was tempted every way that we were but did not sin, and consequently, overcame sin, death, and the grave, and because he lives for an eternity, we can also overcome sin, death, and the grave by his word, and his blood.

    Isaiah 53 states:

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    6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #387547
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi 94,
    Rom6
    Romans 6:12
    Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.

    #387553
    942767
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 07 2014,17:49)
    Hi 94,
    Rom6
    Romans 6:12
    Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.


    These scriptures are speaking to born again believers. When we were in the world prior to being born again, we through the life that we lived from the time we left the womb until we were born again, we became servants of sin and the devil, and developed all sorts of lusts of the flesh.

    For all that is in the world:

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    1 John 2:14 I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.

    15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

    16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

    17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

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