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Hi TC,
Yes the Body of Christ is washed by the Word.
There is no record of the apostles being baptised but Jesus said of them in Jn 15.3
’You are already clean by the Word which I have spoken to you’
Hi Anthony,
That is an interesting insight on Lk 16. What is your source?
So the gentile dogs who fed on the crumbs but are faithful to our God are blessed.
But the sons of Abraham, who ignore the mercy in the law, find flames and agony while they wait for judgement.
TC… I also believe Jesus was raised with glory and honor as we shall be also at our resurection or change at the return of Jesus. I was just addressing the mountain of transfiguration incident that it was indeed a vision of a future wvent.
I believe when a person dies they are truly dead and remain that way till they are resructed and given new (spritural) regenerated bodies. Paul said, a seed abides alone until it is planted, then after planting it is reguvenate in a new body, it is not the exact body that died, but it is an exact copy of that body because the DNA of a seed does not change because it WAS PLANTED is simply reproduced , why, because GOD HAS GIVEN US A BODY AS HE PLEASED WHEN HE MADE US. So while we will recieve new bodies that will endure for ever, because they are spritually regenerated, just as Adam and Eve’s body was and they could have if they never sined lived forever in those bodies, in the resurection our DNA IS THE SAME, if that were not the case, why would Jesus tell his deciples that every hair on their head was numbered, If after we die we no longer need it, why number them?
Where i disagree with Nick is that he believes that people do not truly die, but go to a neither world somewhere, so in a sense he is calling God a liar. Because God said “the soul of him who sins “will” die”, we have all sinned and we all die, “truly” die , God does not lie, what he says does happen.
NICK has other views. I still view him as a brother though, but he has some different views on somethings, then i do, not everything, just somethings.
Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene
Hi Gene,
Jesus said Lazarus was dead after saying spiritually that he was asleep.
Jesus died too.
But alive in the Spirit he visited the spirits in prison.
The gifts and the calling of God are without repentance and he was given the Spirit of eternal life at the Jordan.
Hi Gene,
There are two deaths.
Nobody is TRULY DEAD till the second death.
Fear Him Who is able to destroy both body and soul in Gehenna. Matt 10.28
Nick….Every “Soul”, (the complete being), dies that sinned, without exception. Scripture says “it is appointed unto man to die, once, then after that the judgement. If you look up the wrd soul you used there you will find it should be rendered spirit, because a soul is a body with the breath of life in it. According to GEN.2:7 . No one has changed that simple meaning in scripture. The body containing the spirit of life in it can and is completely desroried “IN THE GRAVE” when we die, no more you exists, you will stay that way till a resurection is performed by God the Father and if he does not resurect you you will be gone forever period. Had he not raised Jesus from the grave he would still be “dead” and dead does not mean still alive, it really means dead, which is the oppisite of alive.
Teaching pagan concepts about still livibg when we die is not true, there is no neither world where lost souls go or for that matter any soul goes after death happens. Our “Only” hope is in our heavenly Father, Just as it was for our lord and brother Jesus. We can be restore from being “dead”, back to life if “the spirit of him who raised Jesus from the grave dwells in us, he shall also quicken our mortal (dead) body”, as he did Jesus.
Nick the word dead does actually mean “dead” and dead is the oppsite of “alive” rather you believe that or not it is true brother.
Peace and love to you and yours……gene
Hi Nick
I said . It shows that the physical promises of God (though excellent) are very inferior to the spiritual redemption that anyone (Jew or Gentile) can have in Christ
Hi Anthony,
Yes the Hades that Jesus showed cannot hold those in Christ.
He was not held and holds the keys and gave them to his brothers too.
Hi Nick you said:
But the sons of Abraham, who ignore the mercy in the law, find flames and agony while they wait for judgement. I didn’t say that Nick how did you get that out of what I wrote. Flames and agony. Wow God bless Nick .I think you need to take a brake from studying and spend more time praying, for awhile.
Hi Nick,
You wrote in regards to my post on page 208, August 5, 2018 at 3:56 AM
A more accurate translation of added words?
Me: I have not added one word to scripture. I have shown alternative definitions of words. You must realize that there are many versions of the same text? Have they all added words to scriptures. I have also inserted in parenthesis related scriptures. This is not adding to the scriptures but supplementing them or connecting the dots, alternatively lining up your ducks. can also say Please show me the words I have added.
You: And while he was praying, the appearance of his face became different, and his clothing became white and gleaming. And two men were talking with him and they were Moses and Elijah, who appearing in glory, were speaking of his departure, which was to be accomplished in Jerusalem.
Now Peter and his companions had been overcome with sleep but when they were fully awake,they saw his glory and the two men standing with him.
Can you hear this?Me: again for the umpteen time,
Matt 17:9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead.You: Yes the Body of Christ is washed by the Word.
There is no record of the apostles being baptised but Jesus said of them in Jn 15.3
’You are already clean by the Word which I have spoken to you’Me: Click on the link below. Then click on 1235 above the first word “already”.
You will find the meanings of 1235 as 2235 ḗdē (a temporal adverb) – already now, even now, referring to what is not yet strictly present but already (now) impacts the present (= “already now”).
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/john/15-3.htm
You: I wonder how the brothers knew it was Moses and Elijah that Jesus conversed with?
Me: I don’t know. Maybe Christ formally introduced each other, but most likely it was a revelation without words.
Hi Anthony,
Lk 16.24
….‘Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus so that he may dip the tip of his finger
in water and cool off my tongue, for I am in agony in this flame’
Unpopular words with most who read them.
They show his awareness and his vision and his hearing are intact.
But they do show that he did not know God, the only One Who was capable of showing that mercy.
Hi Nick,
I am just responding to the comments about the same thing you keep repeating from your lack of understanding. The truth is the truth no matter how you twist it to fit your pre-notions. For example, Matt 17:9. It says vision no matter how many times you disregard it.
Hi TC’,
The VISION of Mt 17.9 is what they had SEEN.
Mark 9.9
As they were coming down from the mountain he gave them orders not to relate to anyone
WHAT THEY HAD SEEN, until the son of man rose from the dead.
We know the kingdom hasen’t come yet…
Hi Gene,
If you know the kingdom of God hasn’t come yet, you know nothing…
“But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God,
then the kingdom of God is come unto you.” (Matt 12:28)You need to be born again to see that the kingdom of God is come (see John 3:3)
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God bless
Ed JHi Nick,
You wrote:
As they were coming down from the mountain he gave them orders not to relate to anyone
WHAT THEY HAD SEEN, until the son of man rose from the dead.Me: The two best translations based on the earliest documents transcribe here from the link below are:
1) NASB – New American Standard Bible
The New American Standard Bible holds the reputation of being the most accurate Bible translation in English. It is a ‘literal’ translation, holding to the formal equivalence school of thought that the translation should be as literal as possible. Most Bible scholars agree, as the NASB is generally agreed to be the most literal of the English translations, reflecting Hebrew and Greek grammar and style the best.
2) NKJV – New Kings James Version
While the NASB is generally considered the ‘closest translation’ and the ‘most literal’, there are many scholars and Christians who prefer translations based off of the Byzantium texts alone for the New Testament and eschew the Alexandrian texts. For these, only the KJV or NKJV is really a candidate for ‘most accurate.’
Matt 17:9 (NASB) As they were coming down from the mountain, Jesus commanded them, saying, “Tell the vision to no one until the Son of Man has risen from the dead.”
Matt 17:9 (NKJV) Now as they came down from the mountain, Jesus commanded them, saying, “Tell the vision to no one until the Son of Man is risen from the dead.”
https://biblehub.com/lexicon/matthew/17-9.htm
Cognate: 3705 hórama (a neuter noun derived from 3708 /horáō, “to see, spiritual and mentally”) – a vision (spiritual seeing), focusing on the impact it has on the one beholding the vision (spiritual seeing). See 3708 (horaō).
Hi Nick
Prophecy and the Parables
34 All these things Jesus spoke to the multitude in parables; and without a parable He did not speak to them, 35 that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying:
“I will open My mouth in parables;
I will utter things kept secret from the foundation of the world.”What is a parable: Nick are we to take parables literal or a comparison of a spiritual truth. But you speak as of it literal.
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