Fear of God

[NickHassan]

Hi,
Mal3
16Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.

[NickHassan]

Hi,
This is the one we follow.
Is 11
Is 11:1-5

1 But a shoot shall sprout from the stump of Jesse, and from his roots a bud shall blossom.

2 The spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him: a spirit of wisdom and of understanding, A spirit of counsel and of strength, a spirit of knowledge and of fear of the LORD,

3 and his delight shall be the fear of the LORD.

[gollamudi]

Amen to all those verses on fear of the Lord but we need not fear about human pressures and human deceptions.
Thanks
Adam

[NickHassan]

Hi,
This is the way
Walk here

[Not3in1]

The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom.

But perfect love cast out all fear.

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

[NickHassan]

Hi Not3,
Read Paul and you will know the Holy fear of God stays with the brothers

[GeneBalthrop]

Nick………If you look up the word fear you will find it is used in several ways, And (REVERENCE) is the proper way it should be view , not the Fear and trembling as you assert. The scriptures also says we have (NOT) come to that mountain to Fear and Trimble as they did, But have come to that city whose builder and maker is GOD. Is that the way you want us to come to God the FATHER with fear and thimbling are you still carnal as they were. Read Exodus 19:20 and see if you can get the picture of how God dealt with CARNAL MINDS.

2Ti 1:7….> For God has (NOT GIVEN US) the Spirit of FEAR, but of POWER and of LOVE and A SOUND MIND> And as Mandy brought out (LOVE) cast out FEAR. Also ROM 8:15 shows this also.

Now with those Scriptures, plainly quoted what should be the healthy understanding of Fear. It also says (NOTHING) is PERFECTED IN FEAR> Your fear teaching is not wholesome and only leads to doubt and distrust in GOD. Reverence is one thing but FEARFUL is another. While all who truly (LOVE GOD WILL GIVE HIM REVERENCE) it is hardly a good FATHER who would want His Children to go around fearing and thimbling and living in dread of HIM. It is unfortunate how the word FEAR is Misrepresented in Scripture.

Fear was used as a means of control as Exdous 19, brings out but they were CARNAL MINDED people and did not have His Spirit in them ,so they were kept under fear, because fear is a deterrent but never can make the heart right. I should not even have to tell you this you should all ready have known it. Jesus said (FEAR NOT) little children it your FATHERS GOOD PLEASURE to give you the kingdom. But you say fear little children or you won't get into the kingdom. You need to reevaluate the word Fear in your understanding Nick.

[Not3in1]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Sep. 17 2008,03:21)

it is hardly a good FATHER who would want His Children to go around fearing and thimbling and living in dread of HIM. It is unfortunate how the word FEAR is Misrepresented in Scripture.

Thank you for this view, Gene.

I had a fear of my earthly father that kept me “in line”, but I knew he was very loving. I did not obey him necessarily out of fear, but out of respect. Respect because I knew he had the power to take my car away, for instance.

To fear God because he will torture me is not the view of a Father that I'm sure God intended.

[NickHassan]

GB,
If you feared the Lord would you not also respect the teachings of Jesus ahead of scientific men?

[Not3in1]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 17 2008,06:19)

GB, If you feared the Lord would you not also respect the teachings of Jesus ahead of scientific men?

What does your comment about “scientific men” have to do with what Gene offered just now? Can we please stay on topic?
Thanks,
Mandy

[GeneBalthrop]

Not3in1 …..Mandy Nick can't answer the posts so he starts his usual condescending commits. Which only shows His ignorance and lack of knowledge of subject matter.

Love to you and yours………………..gene

[NickHassan]

GB,
I do know where truth lies.
But intellect is not the place.
You really should listen to scripture and be humble enough to learn from it.

[Not3in1]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 17 2008,14:17)

GB, I do know where truth lies. But intellect is not the place. You really should listen to scripture and be humble enough to learn from it.

Another jab…..

Are you bored, Nick?

Gene,
Can we return to the subject and ignore Nick's plea for tit-for-tat?

What are some other thoughts and scriptures that you would like to share on the Fear of God? I'm interested to know….

Thanks,
Mandy

[GeneBalthrop]

Mandy…..Our Heavenly Father is the most patient forgiving and Loving FATHER that ever existed, He know we are all limited in understanding of many things. He did not create you or anyone else to be destroyed or parish. And he wants us to see him that way and even commanded Moses to tell Aron how to put out His name to the people, He said in this way shall you put out my name, you shall say unto them, “may the Lord Bless and Keep you, Make His face to shine on you, and be GRACIOUS unto you, Lift up His countenance upon you, and give you Peace.

You see it is of prime importance how we envision the FATHER, thats why i despise those who hold him up as some God who wants us to go around shaking and fearing and thimbling . Those who preach that type of God are nothing but pure heretics in my opinion and are going to be dealt with in a very server way. There fear mongering only serves themselves and has nothing to do with our Heavenly Father, who would have all men to be saved and is merciful toward all. True Love cast (OUT FEAR) does not Cast In fear as some do.

Like i said it is unfortunate how the words respect and reverence has been turned to mean FEAR and THIMBLING by false teachers who pervert the words of GOD and Jesus to give themselves some personal advantage over people. It plainly says FEAR HAS TORMENT and he who has FEAR is not made perfect in LOVE, All the fearful and unbelieving will have their part in the lake of fire. Why Fear a LOVING FATHER, does it not say for the (GOODNESS) of GOD leads us unto repentance, Where does it say the FEAR of GOD Leads us unto repentance, it doesn't. FEAR HAS TORMENT. Like is said Respect and REVERENCE YES, why not , who has been any kinder to us then our heavenly FATHER. Forgiving our sins and transgression and casting them from his eyes as far as the east is from the west, and never throwing them up in our faces. More eager to forgive us then we are to repent. Mandy whenever ypou see the word FEAR just change it to love and reverence and respect, and you will always be looked upon with GRACE from the FATHER who loves you more then you can even imagine.

Love to you and yours Mandy…………..gene

[NickHassan]

GB,
God has not given us spirits of fear.
He has given us the Holy Spirit.

[NickHassan]

GB,
Jesus himself was anointed in the Spirit of God and holy fear.

Isaiah 11:2
The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him— the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD –

[NickHassan]

GB,
We follow Jesus.
This speaks of him.
Isaiah 11:3
and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears;

[GeneBalthrop]

Nick………Jesus did not fear and thimble His FATHER . Jesus said he LOVED the FATHER and there is NO FEAR IN LOVE. WE need to understand the word FEAR did not mean fear as we know it, but LOVE and RESPECT and REVERENCE, big difference. The spirit of the Knowledge and of the fear of the Lord, Is to understand the awesome SOVEREIGNTY of OUR FATHER over all things. imo

[NickHassan]

GB,
You should not argue with what scripture says about him.

[NickHassan]

GB,
You do grasp then that Christ's anointing was in the holy fear of God?
So you should no longer oppose this blessing.

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