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- December 26, 2008 at 3:59 am#115753GeneBalthropParticipant
Nick……have you tasted of the power of God, are you enlightened, have you tasted of the heavenly gift and the power of the world to come , have you and do you even know what it means, to fall away. Please tell us? Who do you know that has tasted all that and fallen away. do you even know any?. Have you raised the dead, lay hands on the sick and they recovered or restored sight to the blind, Have you cast out Evil spirits out of anyone, so tells us how have you tasted the Power of God then and the powers of the world to come. Using scripture you don't understand to gender you FEAR religion, trying to force people to put there trust in themselves is not good Nick. Nearly every thing you preach evolves around the word (FEAR). Alway trying to push doubt no wonder it says (the FEARFUL & UNBELIEVING) because fear generates unbelief.
peace………………….gene
love……………….gene
love ……………..gene
December 26, 2008 at 4:17 am#115758NickHassanParticipantGB,
Do you not fear God?
It is a grace of the Spirit.December 26, 2008 at 4:38 am#115760GeneBalthropParticipantNick…..i told you before I DO NOT FEAR GOD OR JESUS There is not FEAR in LOVE> I have (NOT) RECEIVED THE SPIRIT OF FEAR ( as you have Nick) I revere GOD and respect Hi and Jesus and believe GOD the FATHERS words. Your fearful and trembling spirit keeps you doubting all the time so your are never sure of anything always stand in doubt and fear. FEAR and trembling is (NOT) a GRACE of GOD . RESPECT and reverence working through LOVE is though. You have them confused because of mistranslations.
peace……………gene
December 26, 2008 at 4:43 am#115762NickHassanParticipantGB,
Was Paul deceived ?
Phil2
11And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.12Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.
13For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
December 26, 2008 at 5:12 am#115767GeneBalthropParticipantNick……….so we should tare out all the other scriptures that have been quoted here , that show the opposite to you teachings of fear. Let resolve it this way YOU US FEAR AND TREMBLING OK Don't need a fear monger to advise me of anything NICK.
love and peace to you and yours………………gene
December 26, 2008 at 6:21 am#115774NickHassanParticipantGB,
So out goes Paul?
What will become of your universalism idea derived from his teachings?December 27, 2008 at 6:55 pm#115892GeneBalthropParticipantNick………Paul also wrote what i and others quoted try to seek the balance, get rid of your fear and trembling and replace it with the LOVE of GOD, the on that (CASTS OUT FEAR) For (NOTHING IS PERFECTED IN FEAR) it says. Its time for you to move on to perfection. Those who Paul was talking to were Just beginning to start coming out of the world were babes Still in the world and fear and trembling brought them to God who began to work in them. And they came out of that as they grew in understanding and Love and Faith and knowledge. Why do you want to continually go back to the weak and beggarly things, it time to mature Nick.
love and peace……………….gene
December 27, 2008 at 7:07 pm#115896NickHassanParticipantGB,
You are not greater than Paul so as to divide his words.
Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom and discarded by those who are over confident
1Cor 10December 27, 2008 at 9:12 pm#115908GeneBalthropParticipantNick…….you never heard of “rightly dividing the word of truth” . Paul quoted many times more of what i said then what you are saying. “the sum of GOD'S word is truth”, Nick, not one misunderstood scripture part or sentence.
peace………………..gene
December 27, 2008 at 9:26 pm#115914NickHassanParticipantGb,
The SUM of GOD”S TRUTH for some is their take on it.
They thus make themselves greater than scripture.December 27, 2008 at 11:58 pm#115928GeneBalthropParticipantNick………is that what you are trying to do here make yourself greater than scriptures that plainly shows you are very wrong in you (OPINIONS) and False teachings. “O” but that right you don't use your God given logic to help you understand Spiritual things. Because GOd's word to you is not logical. So every thing is LITERAL to you. You are seeing things only through a physical or Carnal view points. Not able to match Spiritual things with Spiritual, and therefore are confused and unable to teach clearly. You need to listen more and commit less, you might learn something. IMO
love and peace to you…………………….gene
December 28, 2008 at 12:52 am#115935NickHassanParticipantGb,
To whom should we listen?
Not you.The son of God should be our teacher.
December 28, 2008 at 2:21 am#115940GeneBalthropParticipantNick……i don't know about the “we” , but you should listen much more. IMO Brother.
love and peace to you Nick………………..gene
December 28, 2008 at 3:27 am#115948NickHassanParticipantGB,
I think we should listen to those
who believe scripture.December 28, 2008 at 5:02 am#115951GeneBalthropParticipantNick…….i believe scripture, i just don't believe what you say it means.
peace………………gene
December 28, 2008 at 5:34 am#115955NickHassanParticipantGB,
You do not accept the truth of scripture.
You pick and CHOOSE what suits your own doctrines.December 28, 2008 at 6:01 pm#115975GeneBalthropParticipantNick………that what you are doing, WAKE UP>
peace ……………….gene
December 28, 2008 at 6:05 pm#115977NickHassanParticipantGB,
You seem alone here denying the holy fear of God.December 28, 2008 at 7:04 pm#115986GeneBalthropParticipantNick……there you go again making assumptions, I think there are many here who have the love of God shed around in their hearts the Kind that (CASTS OUT fear) and understand, “(NOTHING) is perfected in fear” as scripture says and they “have (NOT) received a Spirit of FEAR but of (POWER) and a (SOUND MIND). Who knows the ture meaning of the word fear really means a deep reverence and respect of a LOVING FATHER who forgives us of our sins and even more (CLEANSES) US from (ALL) unrighteousness. And also know the (FEARFUL) are the unbelieving and only trust in themselves to be saved by their (so-called) “FREE WILLS” And “FREE CHOICES”. Tell us Nick why should we FEAR a LOVING GOD who loved us so much He gave His Uniquely Begotten SON FOR US. Hardly a GOD to FEAR but to LOVE (LOVE CAST OUT FEAR). To put it bluntly Nick, you thinking is screw up.
love andpeace to you and yours……………….gene
December 28, 2008 at 7:15 pm#115990NickHassanParticipantGB,
Perfect love does not cast out the grace of God.
Godly fear is of grace. - AuthorPosts
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