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Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 13 2013,02:19) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2013,19:34) MIKE yes but also in the mind of Eve do you think that they understood it that the day would be 1000 years??? or did they have the believe of being one 24 hours day
It's hard to tell what they thought, Pierre. They may have been shaking all that day, expecting death to come at any minute.The point is that God does not lie. And if God said they'd die “in that very day”, then God must have been talking about a 1000 year day – or He would have been the One who lied.
Hi Mike,Yes, I agree with you here.
And to be fair, if Jesus raises us up on “The LAST Day”,
by the same definition (1,000 year/day,) the first resurrection could be on year one,
and the second resurrection could be on day 999; that would make both resurrections technically on “The LAST Day”, right?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,02:38) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 13 2013,02:19) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 10 2013,19:34) MIKE yes but also in the mind of Eve do you think that they understood it that the day would be 1000 years??? or did they have the believe of being one 24 hours day
It's hard to tell what they thought, Pierre. They may have been shaking all that day, expecting death to come at any minute.The point is that God does not lie. And if God said they'd die “in that very day”, then God must have been talking about a 1000 year day – or He would have been the One who lied.
Hi Mike,Yes, I agree with you here.
And to be fair, if Jesus raises us up on “The LAST Day”,
by the same definition (1,000 year/day,) the first resurrection could be on year one,
and the second resurrection could be on day 999; that would make both resurrections technically on “The LAST Day”, right?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
I guess Wakeup is right after all?
Seriously though, I don't believe that
the pieces really go together in this manor.Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 12 2013,13:12) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2013,08:49) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 12 2013,08:11) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2013,15:30) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,14:29) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2013,12:30) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 08 2013,12:05) God desires to gather mankind under his wings but mankind is not willing, Luke 13:34.
It was Jesus who said the words of Luke 13:34.
I agree with Kerwin
Lk 13:34 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!
Lk 13:35 Look, your house is left to you desolate. I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’’”I rather agree with the scriptures than with any men
T,God wrote through man to write Scriptures and still communicates through men and in other ways.
Kyou should understand that the scriptures received by men are different of the words received through the mind of men ,
T,I know that there are those who study Scriptures diligently but who do not go to the man Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
So does what they hear from Scripture come from God or man?
Kwhat do you think of this action, was it men or God that made them do this ;
2KI 17:31 and the Avvites made Nibhaz and Tartak; and the Sepharvites burned their children in the fire to Adrammelech and Anammelech the gods of Sepharvaim.
2KI 17:41 So while these nations feared the LORD, they also served their idols;
Eze 23:37 for they have committed adultery and blood is on their hands. They committed adultery with their idols; they even sacrificed their children, whom they bore to me, as food for them.
Eze 23:38 They have also done this to me: At that same time they defiled my sanctuary and desecrated my Sabbaths.Eze 23:35 “Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Since you have forgotten me and thrust me behind your back, you must bear the consequences of your lewdness and prostitution.”
where does lay the responsibility of men
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2013,22:33) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 12 2013,13:12) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2013,08:49) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 12 2013,08:11) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2013,15:30) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,14:29) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2013,12:30) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 08 2013,12:05) God desires to gather mankind under his wings but mankind is not willing, Luke 13:34.
It was Jesus who said the words of Luke 13:34.
I agree with Kerwin
Lk 13:34 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!
Lk 13:35 Look, your house is left to you desolate. I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’’”I rather agree with the scriptures than with any men
T,God wrote through man to write Scriptures and still communicates through men and in other ways.
Kyou should understand that the scriptures received by men are different of the words received through the mind of men ,
T,I know that there are those who study Scriptures diligently but who do not go to the man Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
So does what they hear from Scripture come from God or man?
Kwhat do you think of this action, was it men or God that made them do this ;
2KI 17:31 and the Avvites made Nibhaz and Tartak; and the Sepharvites burned their children in the fire to Adrammelech and Anammelech the gods of Sepharvaim.
2KI 17:41 So while these nations feared the LORD, they also served their idols;
Eze 23:37 for they have committed adultery and blood is on their hands. They committed adultery with their idols; they even sacrificed their children, whom they bore to me, as food for them.
Eze 23:38 They have also done this to me: At that same time they defiled my sanctuary and desecrated my Sabbaths.Eze 23:35 “Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Since you have forgotten me and thrust me behind your back, you must bear the consequences of your lewdness and prostitution.”
where does lay the responsibility of men
T,I am not sure what you are getting at but sin comes from the evil one and so is the act of men. Righteousness comes from God even when it is men doing the actions. In my example those that searched Scriptures searched it with their man nature while Jesus spoke by the nature of God. Listen to those that speak by the nature of God, even when they use no Scriptures, not to those who speak by the man nature, even when they use Scripture.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 13 2013,00:48) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2013,22:33) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 12 2013,13:12) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2013,08:49) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 12 2013,08:11) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2013,15:30) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,14:29) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2013,12:30) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 08 2013,12:05) God desires to gather mankind under his wings but mankind is not willing, Luke 13:34.
It was Jesus who said the words of Luke 13:34.
I agree with Kerwin
Lk 13:34 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!
Lk 13:35 Look, your house is left to you desolate. I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’’”I rather agree with the scriptures than with any men
T,God wrote through man to write Scriptures and still communicates through men and in other ways.
Kyou should understand that the scriptures received by men are different of the words received through the mind of men ,
T,I know that there are those who study Scriptures diligently but who do not go to the man Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
So does what they hear from Scripture come from God or man?
Kwhat do you think of this action, was it men or God that made them do this ;
2KI 17:31 and the Avvites made Nibhaz and Tartak; and the Sepharvites burned their children in the fire to Adrammelech and Anammelech the gods of Sepharvaim.
2KI 17:41 So while these nations feared the LORD, they also served their idols;
Eze 23:37 for they have committed adultery and blood is on their hands. They committed adultery with their idols; they even sacrificed their children, whom they bore to me, as food for them.
Eze 23:38 They have also done this to me: At that same time they defiled my sanctuary and desecrated my Sabbaths.Eze 23:35 “Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Since you have forgotten me and thrust me behind your back, you must bear the consequences of your lewdness and prostitution.”
where does lay the responsibility of men
T,I am not sure what you are getting at but sin comes from the evil one and so is the act of men. Righteousness comes from God even when it is men doing the actions. In my example those that searched Scriptures searched it with their man nature while Jesus spoke by the nature of God. Listen to those that speak by the nature of God, even when they use no Scriptures, not to those who speak by the man nature, even when they use Scripture.
kyou should understand that the scriptures received by men are different of the words received through the mind of men ,
Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 13 2013,03:19) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 13 2013,00:48) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2013,22:33) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 12 2013,13:12) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 12 2013,08:49) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 12 2013,08:11) Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 11 2013,15:30) Quote (2besee @ Jan. 11 2013,14:29) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 09 2013,12:30) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 08 2013,12:05) God desires to gather mankind under his wings but mankind is not willing, Luke 13:34.
It was Jesus who said the words of Luke 13:34.
I agree with Kerwin
Lk 13:34 “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing!
Lk 13:35 Look, your house is left to you desolate. I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’’”I rather agree with the scriptures than with any men
T,God wrote through man to write Scriptures and still communicates through men and in other ways.
Kyou should understand that the scriptures received by men are different of the words received through the mind of men ,
T,I know that there are those who study Scriptures diligently but who do not go to the man Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
So does what they hear from Scripture come from God or man?
Kwhat do you think of this action, was it men or God that made them do this ;
2KI 17:31 and the Avvites made Nibhaz and Tartak; and the Sepharvites burned their children in the fire to Adrammelech and Anammelech the gods of Sepharvaim.
2KI 17:41 So while these nations feared the LORD, they also served their idols;
Eze 23:37 for they have committed adultery and blood is on their hands. They committed adultery with their idols; they even sacrificed their children, whom they bore to me, as food for them.
Eze 23:38 They have also done this to me: At that same time they defiled my sanctuary and desecrated my Sabbaths.Eze 23:35 “Therefore this is what the Sovereign LORD says: Since you have forgotten me and thrust me behind your back, you must bear the consequences of your lewdness and prostitution.”
where does lay the responsibility of men
T,I am not sure what you are getting at but sin comes from the evil one and so is the act of men. Righteousness comes from God even when it is men doing the actions. In my example those that searched Scriptures searched it with their man nature while Jesus spoke by the nature of God. Listen to those that speak by the nature of God, even when they use no Scriptures, not to those who speak by the man nature, even when they use Scripture.
kyou should understand that the scriptures received by men are different of the words received through the mind of men ,
T,I agree they are different and I have already pointed out how they differ.
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,09:38) And to be fair, if Jesus raises us up on “The LAST Day”,
by the same definition (1,000 year/day,) the first resurrection could be on year one,
and the second resurrection could be on day 999; that would make both resurrections technically on “The LAST Day”, right?
Hmmmm………. Interesting. I'm not sure on this one, Ed.I do often wonder if “Judgement Day” will be a swift, 24 hour period. It seems there will be an awful lot of people to be judged in such a short time.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 14 2013,02:06) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,09:38) And to be fair, if Jesus raises us up on “The LAST Day”,
by the same definition (1,000 year/day,) the first resurrection could be on year one,
and the second resurrection could be on day 999; that would make both resurrections technically on “The LAST Day”, right?
Hmmmm………. Interesting. I'm not sure on this one, Ed.I do often wonder if “Judgement Day” will be a swift, 24 hour period. It seems there will be an awful lot of people to be judged in such a short time.
Hi Mike,This is the answer Wakeup should have given when I asked him if “The Last Day” was “The LAST Day”.
What he said instead was, that it was “The Last Day” of Babylon. Which is obviously a erroneous interpretation of:“And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing (except the 'son of perdition'),
but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son,
and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.” (John 6:39-40)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Mike,
We are here to study, that means exploring all the possibilities.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 13 2013,21:06) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,09:38) And to be fair, if Jesus raises us up on “The LAST Day”,
by the same definition (1,000 year/day,) the first resurrection could be on year one,
and the second resurrection could be on day 999; that would make both resurrections technically on “The LAST Day”, right?
Hmmmm………. Interesting. I'm not sure on this one, Ed.I do often wonder if “Judgement Day” will be a swift, 24 hour period. It seems there will be an awful lot of people to be judged in such a short time.
Mike,Jehovah multitasks and can simultaneously judge a multitude. I am not sure of the beginning of Judgement Day. I am convinced that the righteous dead are resurrected previous to the Messianic Age.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 14 2013,02:25) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 13 2013,21:06) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,09:38) And to be fair, if Jesus raises us up on “The LAST Day”,
by the same definition (1,000 year/day,) the first resurrection could be on year one,
and the second resurrection could be on day 999; that would make both resurrections technically on “The LAST Day”, right?
Hmmmm………. Interesting. I'm not sure on this one, Ed.I do often wonder if “Judgement Day” will be a swift, 24 hour period. It seems there will be an awful lot of people to be judged in such a short time.
Mike,Jehovah multitasks and can simultaneously judge a multitude. I am not sure of the beginning of Judgement Day. I am convinced that the righteous dead are resurrected previous to the Messianic Age.
Hi Kerwin,So you ARE going with that interpretation of “The LAST Day” then? (not me) <– Please answer
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 14 2013,02:06) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,09:38) And to be fair, if Jesus raises us up on “The LAST Day”,
by the same definition (1,000 year/day,) the first resurrection could be on year one,
and the second resurrection could be on day 999; that would make both resurrections technically on “The LAST Day”, right?
Hmmmm………. Interesting. I'm not sure on this one, Ed.I do often wonder if “Judgement Day” will be a swift, 24 hour period. It seems there will be an awful lot of people to be judged in such a short time.
MikeB.Revelation 18:8 Therefore shall her plagues come in **ONE DAY**, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
*THIS IS THE LAST DAY,OF BABYLON*.
Revelation 18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for **IN ONE HOUR** is thy judgment come.
wakeup.
Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,21:32) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 14 2013,02:25) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 13 2013,21:06) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,09:38) And to be fair, if Jesus raises us up on “The LAST Day”,
by the same definition (1,000 year/day,) the first resurrection could be on year one,
and the second resurrection could be on day 999; that would make both resurrections technically on “The LAST Day”, right?
Hmmmm………. Interesting. I'm not sure on this one, Ed.I do often wonder if “Judgement Day” will be a swift, 24 hour period. It seems there will be an awful lot of people to be judged in such a short time.
Mike,Jehovah multitasks and can simultaneously judge a multitude. I am not sure of the beginning of Judgement Day. I am convinced that the righteous dead are resurrected previous to the Messianic Age.
Hi Kerwin,So you ARE going with that interpretation of “The LAST Day” then? (not me) <– Please answer
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed J.It seems reasonable to me that Judgement Day is the Last Battle.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 14 2013,02:42) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,21:32) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 14 2013,02:25) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 13 2013,21:06) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,09:38) And to be fair, if Jesus raises us up on “The LAST Day”,
by the same definition (1,000 year/day,) the first resurrection could be on year one,
and the second resurrection could be on day 999; that would make both resurrections technically on “The LAST Day”, right?
Hmmmm………. Interesting. I'm not sure on this one, Ed.I do often wonder if “Judgement Day” will be a swift, 24 hour period. It seems there will be an awful lot of people to be judged in such a short time.
Mike,Jehovah multitasks and can simultaneously judge a multitude. I am not sure of the beginning of Judgement Day. I am convinced that the righteous dead are resurrected previous to the Messianic Age.
Hi Kerwin,So you ARE going with that interpretation of “The LAST Day” then? (not me) <– Please answer
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed J.It seems reasonable to me that Judgement Day is the Last Battle.
Is that a “Yes”?Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,22:00) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 14 2013,02:42) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,21:32) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 14 2013,02:25) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 13 2013,21:06) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,09:38) And to be fair, if Jesus raises us up on “The LAST Day”,
by the same definition (1,000 year/day,) the first resurrection could be on year one,
and the second resurrection could be on day 999; that would make both resurrections technically on “The LAST Day”, right?
Hmmmm………. Interesting. I'm not sure on this one, Ed.I do often wonder if “Judgement Day” will be a swift, 24 hour period. It seems there will be an awful lot of people to be judged in such a short time.
Mike,Jehovah multitasks and can simultaneously judge a multitude. I am not sure of the beginning of Judgement Day. I am convinced that the righteous dead are resurrected previous to the Messianic Age.
Hi Kerwin,So you ARE going with that interpretation of “The LAST Day” then? (not me) <– Please answer
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed J.It seems reasonable to me that Judgement Day is the Last Battle.
Is that a “Yes”?
Ed J.I cannot give you a definite answer due to lack of knowledge but from what I do know 24 hours will be more than enough time.
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 14 2013,00:07) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,22:00) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 14 2013,02:42) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 13 2013,21:32) Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 14 2013,02:25) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 13 2013,21:06) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 12 2013,09:38) And to be fair, if Jesus raises us up on “The LAST Day”,
by the same definition (1,000 year/day,) the first resurrection could be on year one,
and the second resurrection could be on day 999; that would make both resurrections technically on “The LAST Day”, right?
Hmmmm………. Interesting. I'm not sure on this one, Ed.I do often wonder if “Judgement Day” will be a swift, 24 hour period. It seems there will be an awful lot of people to be judged in such a short time.
Mike,Jehovah multitasks and can simultaneously judge a multitude. I am not sure of the beginning of Judgement Day. I am convinced that the righteous dead are resurrected previous to the Messianic Age.
Hi Kerwin,So you ARE going with that interpretation of “The LAST Day” then? (not me) <– Please answer
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed J.It seems reasonable to me that Judgement Day is the Last Battle.
Is that a “Yes”?
Ed J.I cannot give you a definite answer due to lack of knowledge but from what I do know 24 hours will be more than enough time.
last day could be a period of time ,and usual it hisHi Pierre,
1. 24 hours
2. a 1,000 years
3. Other, what then?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,03:52) Hi Pierre, 1. 24 hours
2. a 1,000 years
3. Other, what then?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ge 1:5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.how long do you think the first Day was
?Quote (terraricca @ Jan. 14 2013,09:30) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,03:52) Hi Pierre, 1. 24 hours
2. a 1,000 years
3. Other, what then?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ge 1:5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.how long do you think the first Day was
?
Yes Pierre,I vote #1 as well.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (terraricca @ Jan. 14 2013,04:30) Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 14 2013,03:52) Hi Pierre, 1. 24 hours
2. a 1,000 years
3. Other, what then?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ge 1:5 God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.how long do you think the first Day was
?
T,The sun was not yet created.
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