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CO,
No I do not say what God cannot do or even will do only remind us of what He has revealed He will do.
He has never said He will save all men.You do err: 1Tim.4:10-11. …10 (for for this are we toiling and being reproached), that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind,
11 especially of believers. These things be charging and teaching.Notice… “These things be charging and teaching.” Why do you resist?
CO,
The saved welcome these words.
But they are wasted on those yet to go through the door.
Preaching and the response from those called precedes their need for teaching.The gospel of the kingdom of God is what first is preached.
Good soil accepts the seed of the Word of God.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 28 2008,06:43) CO,
The saved welcome these words.
But they are wasted on those yet to go through the door.
Preaching and the response from those called precedes their need for teaching.The gospel of the kingdom of God is what first is preached.
Good soil accepts the seed of the Word of God.
Scripture please?CO,
Do they all have to be from just the teachings of the apostles?
We are followers of Jesus ChristJesus taught while under the law, explaining to the Jews the intent of the law, not to the letter of the law, as the pharisees did. In this era, those chosen of God, both Jew and Gentile, are now under “Grace”, not under the law. So how can His (Jesus) words be relevent for us today?
His (Jesus) words in Matt.15:24 make sense, and should be acknowledged.CO ,
We work from certain defined matters.
God has shown us what he plans to do.If we say that He has not said He will do something, like saving everybody, then we are not speculating.
Hi,
The restoration of relationships between men and God is individual.
All have sinned and fallen short of the grace of God.Salvation in Jesus is according to the demand for repentance and rebirth.
There is not a mass amnesty for mankind discovered by reading the bible.
Nick……if we say He is not going to save ALL we are also speculating. It seem to be alright if you do that but no one else seems to have that privilege. Isn't that a little Hypocritical on you part. Theer are many scriptures that lead us to believe GOD will ultimately save all, and if not show us where this is not true the and not just mouth of about it, calling it a lie and not scriptural. Produce you evidence or best not to commit about it at all. imo
And by the way you make it sound like repentance is a self initiated function , which is (NOT) scriptural at all. Repentance is (GRANTED to a person by the (GRACE) of God. It is (NOT) a self Choice but a GOD given influence or have you forgotten Not by our WORK (of repentance) but of GOD lest you should boast.
peace and love to you and yours……………gene
GB,
If the bible does not say He will save all and we share that information then we are not speculating.
Anyone who teaches that He will without proof is doing more than speculating, he is falsely teachingNick…..if i say (I) believe all will be ultimately saved thats my Judgment call and if I produce many scriptures that tend to imply that then How am i falsely teaching anything. Its kind of like your preexistence teachings , when no where does it specifically say Jesus preexisted as some super being of some kind. So i can say the same thing about you then. I and others have ask you several time to show where GOD is not planning to save all His creation and you can not produce anything , so to say we are wrong is a speculation on your part Nick.
peace and love …………… gene
Nick…………true brother we (ALL) are, is not what you say your Judgment call, your scriptural understanding. We all like to think it's Gods Judgment call don't we, even you Nick like to think your understandings are right . You sholudn't ask if we all are entitled to our own Judgement call, when that exactly what you yourself do.
love and peace to you and yours…………………gene
GB,
That is why there are thousands of different views.
Let scripture speak.
It backs itself up to prove things.Nick………Scripture does speak, but men have different understandings as to what it really means. Trinitarians with there in indoctrination teach scripture as a triune God. You and T8 and others teach the false teaching of preexistence of Jesus before his berth, yet no Scripture specifically says that. So we all are striving to come to the full understanding of the truth and thats good in my opinion. We should all strive for the truth that was once and for all given to the saints of the Most High. The Spirit of God guides our hearts and minds and is a reveler of truth. While we may all have (some) different views , that only shows we are all at different levels. But a time will come when a Man will no longer teach his neighbor saying Know the Lord, for they shall all know of me, says the MOST HIGH>
love and peace to you and yours…………gene
GB,
Do not add concepts like intellect to scripture if you wish to grasp it fully.
God really does not need your additions and your attempted intellectual assistance.
It is your mind that must be renewed according to the Word, not the other way around.Nick.
Your intellect assumes that there is an “eternal gospel for all”, it is non-biblical, is this how you “grasp it fully?”No scripture exists for this “one eternal gospel for all”, so how do you expect any one else to help? Will there be other false teachers as well?
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