ERRORS MADE,DURING THE CENTURIES,

[Wakeup]

THE PREACHING OF ERROR,HAS MADE THE LAND DESOLATE.

1.BORN AGAIN,AT BABTINM
2.THE KINGDOM OF GOD,IS NOW.
3.BORN AGAIN WHEN RESURRECTED.
4.JESUS IS GOD THE FATHER.
5.JEHOVAH DIED.
6.THE BRIDE OF CHRIST,IS THE FLOCK AND WE ARE ALSO HIS CHILDREN?
7. THE SECOND COMING, HAS BEEN; OR CAN BE ANYTIME,IGNORING THE OLD PROPHESIES AND THE BOOK OF REVELATION.
8.ANTI CHRIST–NOT FALSE PROPHET,OR BOTH
ANTI CHRIST AND FASE PROPHET.
9.ARMAGEDDON,SAME AS GOG AND MAGOG.
10.HEAVEN IS WHERE WE GO.
11.ALL NON CHRISTIANS OF ALL GENERATIONS WILL BE CAST IN THE FIRE AT THE COMING.
12.GOD WANTS US TO HAVE AN ABUNDANT LIFE TODAY.
13.JESUS DIED FOR ALL OUR SINS SO WE ARE ALL SINLESS,JUST DEPEND ON HIS NAME,WE DONT HAVE TO DO ANYTHING,WE HAVE THE TICKET TO HEAVEN.

THIS IS WHY THE SPIRIT OF SLUMBER IS WITH THEM.
SLEEP A PERPETUAL SLEEP,AND NEVER WAKE UP.

IN THEIR HEAT I WILL MAKE THEIR FEASTS,AND I WILL MAKE THEM DRUNKEN,THAT THEY,MAY REJOICE,AND SLEEP A PERPETUAL SLEEP AND NOT WAKE SAITH THE LORD.(jer51:39).

Perhaps j42 and Devo could add to the list.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2012,12:22)

THE PREACHING OF ERROR,HAS MADE THE LAND DESOLATE. 3.BORN AGAIN WHEN RESURRECTED. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

I thought you believed #3?  (Link)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2012,00:07)

HE WAS ONLY BORN AGAIN PHYSICALLY,WHEN HE WAS RESURRECTED.(this is the second time born).

Please clear up this apparent disparity, OK?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2012,12:37)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2012,12:22) THE PREACHING OF ERROR,HAS MADE THE LAND DESOLATE. 3.BORN AGAIN WHEN RESURRECTED. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, I thought you believed #3?  (Link) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2012,00:07) HE WAS ONLY BORN AGAIN PHYSICALLY,WHEN HE WAS RESURRECTED.(this is the second time born). Please clear up this apparent disparity, OK? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Hi Ed J.

Where have you been old boy.
Have you been busy with the spirit,(whisky).

They; not I; believe that they are born again at babtism and then born again at the resurrection.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2012,13:26)

Hi Ed J. Where have you been old boy. Have you been busy with the spirit,(whisky). wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Been busy finishing the book (Holy City Bible Code), then
I had to fix all the Hebrew that got screwed up on the PDF.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2012,13:26)

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2012,12:37) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2012,12:22) THE PREACHING OF ERROR,HAS MADE THE LAND DESOLATE. 3.BORN AGAIN WHEN RESURRECTED. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, I thought you believed #3?  (Link) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2012,00:07) HE WAS ONLY BORN AGAIN PHYSICALLY,WHEN HE WAS RESURRECTED.(this is the second time born). Please clear up this apparent disparity, OK? God bless Ed J Hi Ed J. They; not I; believe that they are born again at babtism and then born again at the resurrection. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Your explanation is still unclear to me. You mean:
You believe the resurrection is a second birth?  

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2012,14:46)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2012,13:26) Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2012,12:37) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2012,12:22) THE PREACHING OF ERROR,HAS MADE THE LAND DESOLATE. 3.BORN AGAIN WHEN RESURRECTED. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, I thought you believed #3?  (Link) Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2012,00:07) HE WAS ONLY BORN AGAIN PHYSICALLY,WHEN HE WAS RESURRECTED.(this is the second time born). Please clear up this apparent disparity, OK? God bless Ed J Hi Ed J. They; not I; believe that they are born again at babtism and then born again at the resurrection. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Your explanation is still unclear to me. You mean: You believe the resurrection is a second birth?   God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

ED J

My belief:

1.Born out of mothers belly = born of the flesh.
2. Born out of Zion = born of the spirit.(THIS IS BORN AGAIN).

I DONT BELIEVE THAT WE ARE ALSO BORN AGAIN AT BABTISM.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Hi Wakeup,

Then you are not counting the resurrection as a second birth, correct?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 26 2012,20:55)

Hi Wakeup, Then you are not counting the resurrection as a second birth, correct? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

ED J.

Yes I do,we are born AGAIN in the resurrection.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2012,12:22)

THE PREACHING OF ERROR,HAS MADE THE LAND DESOLATE. 3.BORN AGAIN WHEN RESURRECTED. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Is not your point #3 suggesting that your own belief is in error?      …please explain

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 27 2012,06:53)

Quote (Wakeup @ Dec. 26 2012,12:22) THE PREACHING OF ERROR,HAS MADE THE LAND DESOLATE. 3.BORN AGAIN WHEN RESURRECTED. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, Is not your point #3 suggesting that your own belief is in error?      …please explain God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

ED J.

Not so.

We are born out of the mothers belly,and then we are born again in the resurrection.

This is not rocket science.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Hi Wakeup,

How does one being baptized with the Holy Spirit fit into your scheme then?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[mikeboll64]

Ed has a point, Wakeup. Your #3 should be: Born again a SECOND time at the resurrection.

The way you listed it, it does kind of seem like #3 is one of the teachings you are calling an “ERROR”.

Just sayin'

[terraricca]

edj

just a question ;are going to put an corrective answer to those errors ,or just debate the errors with multiple truths just asking

[Wakeup]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 27 2012,12:03)

Ed has a point, Wakeup.  Your #3 should be:  Born again a SECOND time at the resurrection. The way you listed it, it does kind of seem like #3 is one of the teachings you are calling an “ERROR”. Just sayin'

Mike B.

I was thinking about that.
What I was trying to convey was that they believe in
born again at babtism, and then born again, again in the resurrection.

I should have done better.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,14:17)

edj just a question ;are going to put an corrective answer to those errors ,or just debate the errors with multiple truths just asking

Hi Pierre,

Resurrection means brought back to life.
So resurrection cannot be considered a re-birth.

The term “Born Again” instead refers to
being baptized (or re-birthed) with God's Holy Spirit.

1 Peter 1:23: Being born again,  not of corruptible seed, but of
incorruptible, by the word of God,  which liveth and abideth for ever.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 27 2012,10:05)

Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 27 2012,14:17) edj just a question ;are going to put an corrective answer to those errors ,or just debate the errors with multiple truths just asking Hi Pierre, Resurrection means brought back to life. So resurrection cannot be considered a re-birth. The term “Born Again” instead refers to being baptized (or re-birthed) with God's Holy Spirit. 1 Peter 1:23: Being born again,  not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God,  which liveth and abideth for ever. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Edj

Born again means that to what ever you are ,and you make an 180 degre change ,you have so been reborn ,

We have been born in the flesh ,and so satisfied that flesh ,now Christ comes along and says ,you know what I have a good news for you ,if you believe in me and in the one that send me,you are guaranteed everlasting life, wow ,But ? What does it mean believing in Christ and his father ? Simple Obey them ,how you may ask ? By changing your servitude from flesh to Gods will ,God his spirit and so we must worship him in spirit, right ,but what does mean in the spirit ?? Well read the first commandment  ,it says that all you think,all you do ,as to be done for God and with all the power you have ,so that there is none left to do anything else, sure how can I show others that I believe in God and his son Good question,look at the second commandment Christ tells us ,about loving your fellow men. And share all thing with him ,See now you are perfect if you do those things for the rest of your life,because this is what it means ,to live a godly life ,and standing as an example to others in Gods truth this will make you a righteous man ,

In this way you have been reborn from the dead man you where to the new man according to the will of God ,and to you belong the promise made to Abraham ,

[Ed J]

Hi Pierre, excellent post.

By having the desire to change course
in one's life (which is the meaning of repentance),
God implants his seed which is “The Word” (or his Spirit) in us.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ Dec. 27 2012,10:39)

Hi Pierre, excellent post. By having the desire to change course in one's life (which is the meaning of repentance), God implants his seed which is “The Word” (or his Spirit) in us. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Edj

Repentance,is the recognition that you need to correct, first step,

The rebirth his wen you have taken action to live by Gods spirit (the scriptures) and so live a live for others instead for the flesh

[Ed J]

Yes Pierre,

The birth is sudden, but the growth in Spirit is slow.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

EdJ

Correction: One has to grow first and than born.
A fetus must grow first and then born.

Not born again first and then grow; what if he never grows? For many of us have not grown.(never will).

If one has changed his life to serving God ,he is BEGOTTEN of God. It is God that beget us: DRAWS US.
No one can come to the father unless the father draws him.

1. BORN OF THE FLESH.(flesh).
2. BEGOTTEN OF GOD. GOD HAS DRAWN THE PERSON.
the person starts to seek,and will find knowledge.

3. RESURRECTION *BORN AGAIN* IN A NEW GLORIFIED BODY;LIKE THE ANGELS.

FIRST BIRTH WAS FLESH.(out of mothers belly).
SECOND BIRTH WILL BE SPIRIT.(out of Zions belly).

IT IS SOWN A NATURAL BODY AND IT IS RAISED A SPIRITUAL BODY.THERE IS ANATURAL BODY AND THERE IS A SPIRITUAL BODY.(two kinds of bodies).

wakeup.

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