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Jay, one thing I have learnt in the past day or two, something which has brought me great healing and peace, kind words which encourage and build people up, words which are sympathetic and full of God's love is what is lacking alot here, with so much debating over words and meaning's, who is right and who is wrong, Would be so nice to see. Nite Jay.
Quote (shimmer @ Jan. 07 2011,00:15) Jay, one thing I have learnt in the past day or two, something which has brought me great healing and peace, kind words which encourage and build people up, words which are sympathetic and full of God's love is what is lacking alot here, with so much debating over words and meaning's, who is right and who is wrong, Would be so nice to see. Nite Jay.
Yes, that is the only way Humans work. Negative will never produce a positive. It tares a person down and not up…You are right, at this time we need more understanding of the persons here along with Scriptures.
JA are you even listing to good advice? How about making peace and not division? How nice would it be if all of us would just debate Scriptures without the personal attacks?
You have attacked some from the very beginning. Please stop….
Peace IreneJA, or Istari………..The reason i have said this is a BIG Issue is because by not understanding what SPIRIT truly IS, it causes a path way for false speculations and understanding of GOD'S Word. This is where such thing as Spirits having Bodies and individual bodies floating around in space as some kind of (SEPARATE BEINGS) comes from, like a Satan (as a being) and his buddies demons jumping in and out of people a Beings of some kind, When in fact they are simply (intellects or thoughts) that compose intelligences rather clean or unclean spirits.
This is where the whole concept of Lucifer (rising star) (an adjective) describing the King of Babylon a “MAN” comes to be a SATAN invisible (BEING) comes from. In fact most of all MYSTERY RELIGION is Based on a false understanding of what Spirit really is. I stared a thread once on what is Spirit to try to bring this out and to try to get a simple understanding of what the word meant in its simplest overall terms.
Spirit is the engine that drives BODIES but is NEVER a BODY of any kind, it is what is (IN) Bodies as bits of thoughts and is what life is, but outside of a Body it can animate it is useless having no effect whatsoever. GOD exists (IN) his CREATION and outside of it because he is Spirit and Spirit is the life of all things and is expressed by words, as Jesus said the words i am telling you (ARE) Spirit and LIFE. Why are they Spirit and life? because Spirit is the Life and resides in all living Bodies. If God were to separate the Body from the Spirit and leave it that way that being or Soul would never exist again, “FOR WHEN A MAN DIES HIS THOUGHTS PARISH” he is gone for ever and the spirit he had in him animating him goes back to where it came from in the first place. It is like this, say you had a cup (body) and dipped it into water (spirit) and filled it part way up, it will contain that water (spirit) in it but when the cup, or (BODY), is destroyed, The water in it goes back to where it came from and that Cup or body no longer exists.
Therefore it says GOD can destory (BOTH) “Body and SPIRIT” which makes up a living Soul “IN THE GRAVE” Once this separation occurs that individual person no longer exists and if God were to leave it that way they would never exist again for ever, because an individual can not exist outside of a Separate Body and that Body is Physical just as Jesus has and Had and will return with. All scripture that shows a resurrection has it with BODIES with flesh and Bone.
Spirit can be reckoned to individual data being loaded into a hard drive of a computer which contains the information in it, it can be loaded or unloaded. So can the Spirits in Us all it can be loaded and unloaded So Change is always possible by the Spirits (IN) Us and If GOD Puts HIS (Holy or separate) Spirit in us we will think Godly and be Like Him and Image HIM in our LIVES, JUST THAT SIMPLE. IMO
So JA or Aitari, this subject is indeed a very, very ,very big subject , because once we understand what Spirit truly is we can not be lead astray by any false teachings of MYSTERY RELIGIONS, most all their false teaching hinge on people not knowing what spirit really is. Spirit simple put is (INTELLECT) that drives all creation of GOD, It is GOD at work in his Creation, Spirit is the LIFE force of all God's physical CREATION. IMO
peace and love to you and yours………………………………….gene
Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 06 2011,20:46) Irene, I was speaking of angels during the time they are recorded as being observed by men such as Lot, Balaam, and others not when they are in heaven. I was wondering if you believed they manufactured the bodies of human beings at that time or instead manufactured angelic bodies that only appear human like. It is also possible you instead believe they change kind and become human kind during such events.
I do believe at least some angels enter the presence of God in the highest heaven. I believe all angels, except possibly the fallen, enter the other heavens.
I will include that passage from Job regarding angels shouting for joy on my to do list which is already much too long, as you caused me to be curious about it.
I do not believe angels ever married human beings as I believe it has always been their nature is that they neither marry nor are given in marriage as I see no scripture testifying their nature was ever otherwise. I believe the sons of God prior to the flood were the sons of Seth, who was not blocked from the sight of God, while the sons of me were the sons of Cain, who was.
Adam and Eve were never babies as scripture seems to display them as adults from the moment of their creation.
I agree that the b-attitudes are encouraging as they are all promises of God issued to each and every human being and God does not break his promises. My only point is they are each planks of the promise of the new covenant and cherry picking them is not an option as all apply or will come to apply to those that persevere in truly seeking God.
I did read your story and commented on it in the thread you made it in. I cannot remember the exact thread though it was one of the two that address a particular scripture to discover what is tells us about the bodies of angels.
Hi Kerwin! Hope all is well with you. You are right that Angels have bodies, and for those who do not believe so here is that Scripture IMO proves it.1Cr 15:50 ¶ Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
Unless you believe that Angels are flooding around in mid air, they are in Heaven with God.
1Cr 15:38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
1Cr 15:48 As [is] the earthy, such [are] they also that are earthy: and as [is] the heavenly, such [are] they also that are heavenly.
1Cr 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
Angel therefore have Spiritual Bodies…..Scriptures say so…..
Now to your question when Angels come to earth. We have an example of that in Genesis
Gen 6:2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
This caused Giants, and God destroyed them with the flood……..
I am not sure if Angels still aloud to come to earth or not. But personally we have experiences two miracles, and whether they were Angels, I cannot say 100%, but I think so….The story what happened to our Granddaughter is still questionable in my mind…
Peace and Love IreneIrene,
Since when were Angels said to be 'Seed'. Do Angels procreate?See, even as you plead for unity it is YOU who brings division, division from the very God and Scriptures that you claim you hold to.
God does not Give A Body to Angels.
The Angels were created at ONE Time as Spirits.Here we go again, Irene, what is the definition of Spirit?
Are Spirits said to material? No, they are Immaterial beings.
And, Irene, see that it does NOT say 'Immaterial Bodies' but 'Immaterial Beings'!What is it that drives you to discredit the very God you claim is leading and guiding you.
Irene, if God were truly leading and guiding you then you would be wiser than you appear because the truth would have been shown to you.Therefore, no matter how you huff and puff, it is certainly NOT God Almighty, YHVH, the God Most High, that is your guide.
There is no such thing as a Spirit with Body in Heaven. Even your debunked leader, Mikeboll64, has ditched that old bodiless idea. Did I not warn you that he would leave you stranded. And yes, here you still are!
Irene, did I lie to you. No, you are still here AND Mikeboll64 has gone.
Mikeboll64 is led by the God of selfbelief, but even that so-called God is closer to a true God than your God.
Irene, Jesus has a Spiritual Body on earth and is Spirit (no Body) when in Heaven.
Is commonsense too much for you? Flesh… Is material, cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven.
So how can s flesh Angel, a flesh Spirit, be in Heaven?Irene, are you I'll?
Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,07:18) Irene,
Since when were Angels said to be 'Seed'. Do Angels procreate?See, even as you plead for unity it is YOU who brings division, division from the very God and Scriptures that you claim you hold to.
God does not Give A Body to Angels.
The Angels were created at ONE Time as Spirits.Here we go again, Irene, what is the definition of Spirit?
Are Spirits said to material? No, they are Immaterial beings.
And, Irene, see that it does NOT say 'Immaterial Bodies' but 'Immaterial Beings'!What is it that drives you to discredit the very God you claim is leading and guiding you.
Irene, if God were truly leading and guiding you then you would be wiser than you appear because the truth would have been shown to you.Therefore, no matter how you huff and puff, it is certainly NOT God Almighty, YHVH, the God Most High, that is your guide.
There is no such thing as a Spirit with Body in Heaven. Even your debunked leader, Mikeboll64, has ditched that old bodiless idea. Did I not warn you that he would leave you stranded. And yes, here you still are!
Irene, did I lie to you. No, you are still here AND Mikeboll64 has gone.
Mikeboll64 is led by the God of selfbelief, but even that so-called God is closer to a true God than your God.
Irene, Jesus has a Spiritual Body on earth and is Spirit (no Body) when in Heaven.
Is commonsense too much for you? Flesh… Is material, cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven.
So how can s flesh Angel, a flesh Spirit, be in Heaven?Irene, are you I'll?
Since you disagree that Angels have bodies, then who are they that have a Spiritual Body? Funny, funny you can insult people, but when they asked a question, you disappear. You were on site when I post this question to you….Are you going to answer me?
?Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 06 2011,20:40) Pierre, Angels are not even required as God could have chosen to speak to Lot from the boards of his house or the air in his home if he chose to. In this case it appears that God tested Lot’s heart toward strangers and keeping his word. God could have easily sent humans to do the same even humans that were unaware they were serving God in such a manner.
I could ask the question of “why would God even choose to create immaterial beings if he did not see a purpose for them?” I see no reason to since scripture speaks of God as the only immaterial being. I see some beings labeled as spirits but the word spirit has more than one meaning in the English language and a view of the Hebrew and Greek words translated spirit will aid us better to determine what scripture means. I just have not looked into the issue to that extent. That is one thing that I will put on my to do list.
I do agree that God may and does hide the presence of his angels when he determines that to be the most righteous course of action. Just because they are invisible does not mean they are immaterial as the case of Balaam and his donkey show.
Hi Kerwin,I agree with your whole post, except the part where God is “immaterial”. I don't think ANYTHING at all is “immaterial”. But I'm right there with you on the rest of it.
peace and love,
mikeQuote (Baker @ Jan. 06 2011,14:37) Hi Mike! Good to hear from you. I will forgive anyone who ask me to forgive Him or Her. But so far, JA has only made more accusations, as you can see. I am not angry or mad or even upset about Him. I consider the source. It is part of His character. He is only nice if you agree with Him. He can throw any insults He wants to, I don't care….He is not the only one that has been like that to me….Since you explained what you believes are, in your above post, maybe He will see how wrong He was….Take care…..
Peace IreneQuote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
Mikeboll64, could not stand the idea of again losing against JustAskin and brought snout the delusional idea that 'Spiritual Body' means 'Spirit Body'.
Hi Istari,I hope you are well. Someone asked Paul what kind of BODIES the dead will be raised with. Paul explained that they wouldn't be natural bodies like those of earth have, but spiritual bodies like those of heaven have.
Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
Mikeboll64 understands that it does not mean this but….did I not say it, read my back posts…has clambered his way over to now trying to say, 'Jesus alone, has a Spiritual Body AND a Spirit'.
But that's not really what I said, is it? What I said was that since Jesus is a spirit and has a body, we have CLEAR scriptural evidence that at least one spirit has a body. Are you implying that I think Jesus is the only one? Because I don't. I think Jesus has a spirtual body just like all the others spirits. Unlike you, I don't believe that Jesus is some kind of “half man, half spirit”. There is no scripture that says Jesus is still a man. There is one scripture in 2 Timothy that people like to point to, but it really doesn't say Jesus is STILL a man.On the other hand, 1 Corinthians 15:45, and 2 Corinthians 3:17-18 make it clear that Jesus is a spirit now. And Galatians 1:1 and 1:12, make it clear that he is NOT a MAN anymore. So what I think is NOT the same thing you've “been saying from the beginning”, and apparently, we still don't agree. But I'm okay with that………I love you anyway.
Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
And as for his 'bodies need separation' Yes , Mikeboll64, bodies need separation. But Spirits are not BODIES…how hard(?) is that.
I didn't say “bodies need separation” Istari, I said that BEINGS need separation. No separation – no BEINGS with an “s”.Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
Spirits are 'Everywhere all at the same time' in the Spirit Realm.
So when a third of the angels were thrown DOWN FROM HEAVEN, they were really STILL IN HEAVEN? Istari, if there is ever a place where an angel is NOT, then there is a body. Also, if all angels are “everywhere all at the same time in the Spirit Realm”, what separates the millions of them who are EVERYWHERE AT ONCE from each other?Please explain this to me in simple terms. If God created the first angel and set him in his own dimension, I could see where that first one wouldn't need a body. But as soon as the second one is added to that same dimension, there must be something that separates one from the other, or they'd just be a conglomeration of two beings merged into one being. Even if they were “layered” like Adobe Photoshop, those “layers” would be “bodies”. So are you saying that all angels have their very own dimensions? I'm not understanding it.
Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
Yes, Mikeboll64, it does indeed. How can the Demons in the Man be in him at one Moment and In the Pigs the next Moment when the pigs were 'At some distance away'?Mikeboll64, answer that question with Holy Spirit honesty and your eyes willbe opened to Spiritual grace from God.
Uh…….spirits can move real fast? Tell me how YOU think they did it AND your SCRIPTURAL support for thinking this way.Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
How did Jesus enter the room even though the doors were locked because of the Jews?
How did he walk on water when he was nothing but a flesh and blood man?Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
How did Jesus appear to over four hundred people…?
He remained on the earth for 40 days. Could you not talk to 10 people a day?Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,00:12)
How did Jesus just appear with the two men walking along the road, and then disappear after they reached their destination?
How did he transfigure and glow as bright as the sun when he was but a man?Before calling me “Thomas” and “Judas”, why not try to explain yourself a little better? Because I don't have a clue as to what point you're even trying to make with these questions.
peace and love to you brother,
mikeIstari,
I responded to you in a more appropriate thread if you care to have a look:Irene, Satan is your God.
You are doomed by your own thoughts.
And the worse part of it all, is that you know it.
You ask who is it that has Spiritual Bodies when the answer is right in front of you.
Scriptures tells you that it is the ones who follow Christ. Irene, do Angels change 'bodies'?
Irene, any Angel who does not remain as Spirit in sight of God becomes a fallen Angel, a Demon.
Further, every Angel is given power and authority according to it's assignment. Have you not read, 'For he does not give aid to Angels, but to the seed of Abraham only'
Irene, only Man, has seed, not Angels.
So read Paul again…to each seed he gives a body…Irene, the seed is that which produces offspring.
Birds, animals, fish, and Man but each body is different, bird, fish, animal and Man.Irene, your God that leads you, why does he lie to you?
Why did he direct you to misinterpret Celestial Bodies?
Irene, read Paul again, what does he say, 'Celestial Bodies are Sun, Moon and Stars',
But, Irene, your God deluded you to believe that Celestial bodies meant Angels when no such thing was mentioned.
Irene, if your God was a God of truth, why would he have misled you and still be misleading you today?
Irene, you know that Spiritual Body means a Sinless, pure, incorruptible, Godly person.
The old Man…Is put off, and the new man is put on.Irene, do Spirits die? Then how are they raised?
Irene, it is Man who dies in the body of sin and raised in the body of righteousness as Jesus was.Irene, Paul is talking about how those who die in Christ, that is, believing in the testimony of God and Christ, will be raised in glorious Spiritual bodies that will never again die.
Irene, every living body has a Spirit. Irene, why would the Spirit of a person be RAISED when it does not die?
Irene, it is the body that dies.
Irene, it is the body that is raised.Irene, what was the purpose of Jesus raising up Lazarus?
Irene, what was the purpose of Jesus raising up the body of the Son to the widow?
Irene, you have no idea??
Lazarus, deliberately dead so Jesus was positively shown to raise a dead person, 'it is for good reason that I was not there to save him when he first died…but that the power of God can be shown in me'
No one can say that Lazarus was faking.
The widow was Israel, the son, Jesus. God was not going to leave his beloved as a widow, so he raised up the son to his mother…understand Irene?
What does scriptures say, Irene, concerning Jesus being raised up?
Irene, was it as a Spirit? Or as flesh and bone?Irene, why do you lie to yourself and accuse others of lying about what is plain Scriptures?
Irene, you lied about Celestial Bodies.
Irene, you lied about Spiritual Bodies.Irene, when are you going to stop lying?
Needless to say you will say, 'oh, I didn't understand. I wasn't lying, I genuinely misunderstood. There was no need to attack me the way you did just because I misunderstood. We all make mistakes, even you.'
Well Irene, start saying that. The point is for you to stop lying to yourself, to the forum, to your colleagues, and first and foremost to God concerning his word and the words of his Saint.
Irene, this is the last time I will exhort you to change. If you do not then God will rebuke you.
Irene, your God will reward you but….
Irene, you do not want to be rebuked by the One True God!Hi Irene,
Forgive and forget. We all know that you follow scriptures and that Jehovah is your God. Let all that go in one ear and out the other. Heap burning coals upon his head.
Romans 12 NIV
17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. 18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19 Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 On the contrary:“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
You are good and much loved on this site, Irene. Don't ever forget that.
peace and love,
mikePlease Istari,
Don't talk to people like you just did to Irene and recently to Kerwin, and others. Are you trying to get tiles again? Maybe you can go into your wizard closet and come up with a Godly and loving character to play. Please consider your words because we will all be held accountable for our own words.Quote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,18:38) Irene, Satan is your God. You are doomed by your own thoughts.
And the worse part of it all, is that you know it.
You ask who is it that has Spiritual Bodies when the answer is right in front of you.
Scriptures tells you that it is the ones who follow Christ. Irene, do Angels change 'bodies'?
Irene, any Angel who does not remain as Spirit in sight of God becomes a fallen Angel, a Demon.
Further, every Angel is given power and authority according to it's assignment. Have you not read, 'For he does not give aid to Angels, but to the seed of Abraham only'
Irene, only Man, has seed, not Angels.
So read Paul again…to each seed he gives a body…Irene, the seed is that which produces offspring.
Birds, animals, fish, and Man but each body is different, bird, fish, animal and Man.Irene, your God that leads you, why does he lie to you?
Why did he direct you to misinterpret Celestial Bodies?
Irene, read Paul again, what does he say, 'Celestial Bodies are Sun, Moon and Stars',
But, Irene, your God deluded you to believe that Celestial bodies meant Angels when no such thing was mentioned.
Irene, if your God was a God of truth, why would he have misled you and still be misleading you today?
Irene, you know that Spiritual Body means a Sinless, pure, incorruptible, Godly person.
The old Man…Is put off, and the new man is put on.Irene, do Spirits die? Then how are they raised?
Irene, it is Man who dies in the body of sin and raised in the body of righteousness as Jesus was.Irene, Paul is talking about how those who die in Christ, that is, believing in the testimony of God and Christ, will be raised in glorious Spiritual bodies that will never again die.
Irene, every living body has a Spirit. Irene, why would the Spirit of a person be RAISED when it does not die?
Irene, it is the body that dies.
Irene, it is the body that is raised.Irene, what was the purpose of Jesus raising up Lazarus?
Irene, what was the purpose of Jesus raising up the body of the Son to the widow?
Irene, you have no idea??
Lazarus, deliberately dead so Jesus was positively shown to raise a dead person, 'it is for good reason that I was not there to save him when he first died…but that the power of God can be shown in me'
No one can say that Lazarus was faking.
The widow was Israel, the son, Jesus. God was not going to leave his beloved as a widow, so he raised up the son to his mother…understand Irene?
What does scriptures say, Irene, concerning Jesus being raised up?
Irene, was it as a Spirit? Or as flesh and bone?Irene, why do you lie to yourself and accuse others of lying about what is plain Scriptures?
Irene, you lied about Celestial Bodies.
Irene, you lied about Spiritual Bodies.Irene, when are you going to stop lying?
Needless to say you will say, 'oh, I didn't understand. I wasn't lying, I genuinely misunderstood. There was no need to attack me the way you did just because I misunderstood. We all make mistakes, even you.'
Well Irene, start saying that. The point is for you to stop lying to yourself, to the forum, to your colleagues, and first and foremost to God concerning his word and the words of his Saint.
Irene, this is the last time I will exhort you to change. If you do not then God will rebuke you.
Irene, your God will reward you but….
Irene, you do not want to be rebuked by the One True God!
istaricould you teach me ,so that i can believe in that angels have no form,limits ,or body,or……….
pierre
Thank you Mike and Kathi, at one time this would have hurt me, but not any longer, I consider the source. I know who I worship too, and only those like yourself know that. To be like He is, there has to be something wrong with him. he is very bitter…. and angry. Under need that anger is hurt….I have known people like that before……Even in real life…..but if he keeps it up he will get tiles…..
Peace and Love to you. IreneQuote (Baker @ Jan. 07 2011,13:33) he is very bitter…. and angry. Under need that anger is hurt….
I agree. I think his anger is possibly a by-product of pain inside of him. And knowing that has changed my view of the hateful things he says. I'll try not to take it personally anymore, and instead, pray for his healing to begin.peace and love,
mikeQuote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 07 2011,13:50) Quote (Baker @ Jan. 07 2011,13:33) he is very bitter…. and angry. Under need that anger is hurt….
I agree. I think his anger is possibly a by-product of pain inside of him. And knowing that has changed my view of the hateful things he says. I'll try not to take it personally anymore, and instead, pray for his healing to begin.peace and love,
mike
Mike! Praying for him is a good idea, and so will I. I hope that Kerwin and others will join us, the more prayers the better it is….
With God all is possible……
Peace and Love IreneQuote (Istari @ Jan. 07 2011,07:18) Irene,
Since when were Angels said to be 'Seed'. Do Angels procreate?See, even as you plead for unity it is YOU who brings division, division from the very God and Scriptures that you claim you hold to.
God does not Give A Body to Angels.
The Angels were created at ONE Time as Spirits.Here we go again, Irene, what is the definition of Spirit?
Are Spirits said to material? No, they are Immaterial beings.
And, Irene, see that it does NOT say 'Immaterial Bodies' but 'Immaterial Beings'!What is it that drives you to discredit the very God you claim is leading and guiding you.
Irene, if God were truly leading and guiding you then you would be wiser than you appear because the truth would have been shown to you.Therefore, no matter how you huff and puff, it is certainly NOT God Almighty, YHVH, the God Most High, that is your guide.
There is no such thing as a Spirit with Body in Heaven. Even your debunked leader, Mikeboll64, has ditched that old bodiless idea. Did I not warn you that he would leave you stranded. And yes, here you still are!
Irene, did I lie to you. No, you are still here AND Mikeboll64 has gone.
Mikeboll64 is led by the God of selfbelief, but even that so-called God is closer to a true God than your God.
Irene, Jesus has a Spiritual Body on earth and is Spirit (no Body) when in Heaven.
Is commonsense too much for you? Flesh… Is material, cannot enter the kingdom of Heaven.
So how can s flesh Angel, a flesh Spirit, be in Heaven?Irene, are you I'll?
Aistari……………..You are indeed right about Spirits not having BODIES they are what is (IN) Bodies, and scripture is clear about that in many, many, places, God who is SPIRIT was truly (IN) Jesus according to Jesus and Thomas. These people simply do not get it.No resurrection has ever occurred without a Physical body involved and that includes Jesus Himself , A Soul can not exist without a Physical Body and Spirit (IN) it. For us to continue to exist after death OUR Physical BODY must be recreated and Spirit added back into it in order for us to continue to exist.
peace and love………………………………….gene
Jay, I know how it feels when one won't hear you. I had the same problem years ago. Frustrated I became as you are. Theres only so much you can say.
Jay, the one I would do this to was my Mother, who I love. I knew I was wrong. I would go on and on so much, telling her how wrong she was in how she saw things, and I would get like you Jay so angry with Her not hearing me. I was right she was wrong in my eyes. I was on such a buzz. But one day I was doing it and I noticed the look of despair on her face, and I thought 'oh my gosh. What am I doing ? I stopped from that moment on. Now we can talk and I really enjoy it. So much better. I learnt to let go of our differences.
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