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TO ALL…………..”DESTROY THIS TEMPLE AND IN THREE DAYS I SHALL RAISE IT UP”. That TEMPLE was Jesus' BODY and it was destroyed and was raised up again. Just as scripture say (IT) (the body) was. All this is simple to understand it takes no special understanding to comprehend it. Jesus' body died on the cross and was raised three days later, but God the Father , yes it was the same body he dies with and it was flesh and bone as Jesus said it was and showed his disciples it was a body.
The whole concept of Spirits having bodies is false, Spirits have NO BODIES Spirit is what is (IN) Bodies, and there is no spirit body. The only one who existed as a “Spirit Being” is GOD and He lives vicariously (IN) HIS Creation. He was (IN) Jesus While Jesus was on the earth, Just as Jesus said he was, He was cohabiting with Jesus (IN) his Body with Him. That is why Thomas came to understand and said “MY lord AND MY GOD”. He finely got the picture which many here still do not have yet.
Just look at the over all picture about spirits and it will show a Spirit does not have a body of any kind. One of the biggest problems here is getting our eyes off the over picture of things to derive our understandings, it like not being able to see the forest because of the trees or like straining out a gnat and swallowing a Camel. People see a tree in the forest (one aspect) of the complete forest, and try to make a complete doctrine and total concept out of it, then just go from one tree to another building doctrines and teachings but never coming to the true understandings of what is being said, because of concentration on (one aspect) of something say , but forgetting all the other things also said about it. IMO
Simple put Spirits do not have bodies they live (IN) bodies. And we will all be resurected with PHYSICAL BODIES , Just as Jesus did, and he still has that body He was raised with. God did no create this beautiful Physical World to be destroyed but to be delivered from its bondage of corruption and exist forever everything Here is GOOD except For the Corruption brought on by evil which will be removed and this earth will become as the garden of GOD for ever and so will everything In it. “FOR NOTHING WILL HURT IN MY HOLY HABITATION” Neither will there be pain and suffering any more in it. PRAISE GOD THE FATHER FOR HIS MARVELOUS WORKS and DELIVERANCE OF HIS CREATION. And that includes all creatures in it too, including MAN. IMO
peace and love to you all……………………………………..gene
All this 'Spirit has body' comes down to one misunderstanding.
That is 'Spiritual body'.
This misunderstanding is not accidental.
It comes by way of Mikeboll not finding anything in Scriptures to say that 'Spirits' have bodies.
So, he has found a phrase that 'SEEMS' to say what he wants to say, and tried to pursuade us that we should believe a misunderstanding, his misunderstanding, nay, his deliberate falsehood.
Mike simply cannot say, 'sorry, i was wrong' but he will 'be right'.
Mike will change his views subtley in each posts until he has incrementally moved to saying that Spirits don't have bodies….then he will say, 'That's what I've been saying all along…Spirits don't have bodies…like we know bodies…they have 'Spiritual bodies'…exactly what I've been trying to say to you…'
Well, the good book says, 'Hey Jesus, there is a man teaching like you but he is not one of us…should we go stop him?' and Jesus replies, 'No, because he who is not against me, is with me'…
So, if Mike ends up speaking truth…finally, then that is his circuitous way of learning…sad, painful, damaging, but joyful in the end.Spiritual body…means…'Sinless – not tending to sin. Pure, always in Godly thought, incurruptible'
It does not mean…'A body of a Spirit'…nor 'Spirit Body'.
Scriptures never ever anywhere anytime mention anything about a 'the body of a Spirit' nor 'a Spirit Body'.Scriptures says, 'He who adds [God's] word', so to him will plagues be added'
Is it interesting that Mike has moved from proving that 'Spirits have bodies' to 'Jesus [a flesh and blood man in body] was raised into a 'Spiritual [flesh and blood] body'…
Surely it is a clear departure…party back to the thread topic…
The thread topic is about 'Spirits' with bodies! Do they? (No) Not, does Jesus have a Spirit body (No).
Is Jesus in the Spirit now, Yes…so what happened to his 'Spiritual body' when he became Spirit and went into Heaven?What is the sweat?
Do not even simple Angels, messengers of God, Spirits, create physical bodies for themselves when they appear on earth, in the physical realm?
And what happens when they go back to the Spirit realm.So, how much more can Jesus 'put off' his physical flesh body when he 'disappears' into Heaven…or put on his physical flesh, when he comes to earth…simple…no sweat…only those trying to force the impossible argue gainst….else, show how flesh and blood enters Heaven, or, in fact, ANY Kind of Body…
Cannot be done..,the whole point of 'Spirit'…is that it is 'immaterial' and therefore also 'Invisible'.
To become visible, that 'Spirit' must 'put on' a visible body.
In the whole of 1 Corinth 15, Paul does not mention ANYTHING to do with 'Heaven'….
And, for goodness sake, people, look in any dictionary…use your common sense, ask a child to look for you for an 'innocent' answer….what does 'Celestial' mean…name a 'Celestial body'…..
Please stop forcing meanings into what is obvious.
The corruptible sinful body is buried…and is raised a sinless body.
Jesus' body was ordinary man, subject to sin (but he did not sin). His body was raised to a state incurruptible, not able to sin.The body he rose in was, featurewise, the same body, but made glorious…it was because of this glory, why his disciples did not recognise him. His body was battered and bruised, scourged, pierced…why did Jesus heal the bodies of those others…if not to show that bodies with corrupted flesh would be made whole again. God showed Moses that he could currupt his flesh..and just as easily make it whole again…
Jesus, likewise, showed Thomas the palms of his hands to touch…showing he was not a Spirit apperition, but real…but Jesus also showed his body to God…clean, pure, washed white in his own blood(?). He did not allow Mary to 'sully' him before he had presented his pure body and garments to God in the tradition of the time and tradition of pure Sacrifice.To all
I don't think none of you understand the “word” SPIRIT.
Why did Jesus say, God is a “spirit”?
What if I say, Paul was a “human”, would you understand what that means? it means humans are “visible” and spirits are “INVISIBLE”. So is our mind, it is invisible; that is why Paul called it a “spirit”.
There are two worlds, a “spirit” world, and a “physical” world; just because we can't see the spirit world does not mean it does not exist.To worship God in spirit, in your mind, means, you don't need a statue like the heathen had. They had to have something solid, visible, to worship.
And in truth, the word of God is truth, you don't believe the word of God, you worship in vain.Georg
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 22 2010,14:26)
wen Christ dies he dies physically I mean his body is destroyed ,
I don't think so Pierre. Because of these scriptures:Acts 2 NIV
31 Seeing what was to come, he spoke of the resurrection of the Messiah, that he was not abandoned to the realm of the dead, nor did his body see decay.Acts 13 NIV
35 So it is also stated elsewhere:“‘You will not let your holy one see decay.’
36 “Now when David had served God’s purpose in his own generation, he fell asleep; he was buried with his ancestors and his body decayed. 37 But the one whom God raised from the dead did not see decay.”
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 22 2010,14:26)
the body he takes to make him visible to his disciples his not the original body ,otherwise his disciples would have recognize him and they did not do that ,right ?
They did recognize him sometimes. Thomas knew the one he was putting his hand inside was Jesus. In fact, all of them knew eventually. But even though God “closed their eyes” to recognizing him on occasion does not mean Jesus' body was different from the one he died in, right?mike
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 22 2010,17:14) The only other case I know of the observation of a person who rose from the dead is the case of Mosses as the Archangel Michael disputed with Satan over his body thus showing he died the first death and yet he is living and in the flesh when speaking with Jesus at the Transfiguration. Elijah is also there and in the flesh even though scripture states he was carried to heaven in a tornado.
Hi Kerwin,Do the scriptures say that Moses and Elijah had FLESH bodies at the transfiguration of Jesus?
mike
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 22 2010,18:18) but not with the body he had offered to God for our sins,that body died done with,no one can take back his voluntary sacrifice to God ,it would belong to God not to you because you have given it to him,
Hi Pierre,You may be right………..or not. The carcasses of the sacrificed animals were pitched away outside of camp. The outer fur and skin was not what was sacrificed to God, right?
Jesus' flesh would be the same as an outer carcass I would guess. But it doesn't really matter to me if it was the same body or not. On the one hand, I see your “sacrifice” point. But on the other hand, I know Jesus' body had the holes from the nails and the spears when he met with Thomas.
The bottom line is that he WAS raised in a flesh body, and he now exists as a spirit inside a new, glorious spiritual body in the Kingdom of God.
peace and love,
mikeEphesians 4:17-32, shows how the Corrupt body can be changed and renewed, incorrupt and spiritually alive by 'putting off' the 'Old Man', and 'putting on the 'New Man'.
Note that it says, 'Man'…
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 22 2010,17:19) Mike Boll, I can see your case to state Job 19:25-26 cannot be used as a proof scripture on this issue.
Can you give me the scriptures that state that no man or flesh has ever seen God?
Scripture does Mosses did but I believe it was speaking of an angel at that time, Exodus 33:11 and Deuteronomy 34:10. It could have also been metrological.
Hi Kerwin,Here are 7 that appear to be saying men HAVE seen God:
1. (Gen 16:13) – Genesis 16:13
She gave this name to the LORD who spoke to her: “You are the God who sees me,” for she said, “I have now seen the One who sees me.”2. (Gen. 17:1) – “Now when Abram was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to Abram and said to him, “I am God Almighty ; Walk before Me, and be blameless;”
3. (Gen. 18:1) Now the LORD appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre, while he was sitting at the tent door in the heat of the day.”
4. (Exodus 6:2-3) – “God spoke further to Moses and said to him, “I am the LORD; and I appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as God Almighty,…”
5. (Exodus 24:9-11) – “Then Moses went up with Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, and they saw the God of Israel; and under His feet there appeared to be a pavement of sapphire, as clear as the sky itself. Yet He did not stretch out His hand against the nobles of the sons of Israel; and they saw God, and they ate and drank.”
6. (Num. 12:6-8) – “He said, “Hear now My words: If there is a prophet among you, I, the LORD, shall make Myself known to him in a vision. I shall speak with him in a dream. “Not so, with My servant Moses, He is faithful in all My household; With him I speak mouth to mouth, Even openly, and not in dark sayings, And he beholds the form of the LORD. Why then were you not afraid To speak against My servant, against Moses ?”
7. (Acts 7:2), “And he [Stephen] said, 'Hear me, brethren and fathers! The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham when he was in Mesopotamia, before he lived in Haran…'”And here are 7 that say men CAN'T see God.
1. (Exodus 33:20) – “But He [God] said, “You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live!”
2. (John 1:18) – “No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.”
3. (John 5:37) – “”And the Father who sent Me, He has testified of Me. You have neither heard His voice at any time nor seen His form.”
4. (John 6:46) – “Not that anyone has seen the Father, except the One who is from God; He has seen the Father.”
5. (1 Tim. 6:15-16) – “He who is the blessed and only Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen.”6. (1 John 4:12) – “No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.”
7. (1 John 4:20) – “Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen.”
peace and love,
mikeMike Boll,
The disciples believed they did since they thought to prepare dwellings for both them and Jesus.
Matthew 17:1-8(NIV) reads:
Quote After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. 2 There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. 3 Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.
4 Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.”
5 While he was still speaking, a bright cloud covered them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!”
6 When the disciples heard this, they fell facedown to the ground, terrified. 7 But Jesus came and touched them. “Get up,” he said. “Don’t be afraid.” 8 When they looked up, they saw no one except Jesus.
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 23 2010,01:44) The whole concept of Spirits having bodies is false, Spirits have NO BODIES Spirit is what is (IN) Bodies,
Gene says: Angels DO have bodies.Gene says: Jesus DOES have a body.
Gene says: Spirits DON'T have bodies.
Scripture says: Angels ARE spirits.
Scripture says: Jesus IS a spirit.
Hmmmmm………….looks like our brother Gene is doing it again. He's changing the words of the scriptures so they will fit around HIS BELIEFS. Shame on you, Gene.
mike
Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 23 2010,08:32) It comes by way of Mikeboll not finding anything in Scriptures to say that 'Spirits' have bodies.
JA, this is really very simple. Are you ready?1 Corinthians 15:45 NIV
45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living being”; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.2 Corinthians 3:17-18 NIV
Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. And we all, who with unveiled faces contemplate the Lord’s glory, are being transformed into his image with ever-increasing glory, which comes from the Lord, who is the Spirit.Do these scriptures say that Jesus IS A SPIRIT? Are you still ready?
Philippians 3:21 NIV
who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.Enough said?
Quote (JustAskin @ Dec. 23 2010,08:32) Mike simply cannot say, 'sorry, i was wrong'.
I will be waiting to hear those words from you, JA.
P.S. You can either DIRECTLY address the scriptures I quoted, or you can go back on my “ignore list”. I won't chase your silly posts around answering to the same things I've already answered many times.
mike
Quote (kerwin @ Dec. 23 2010,09:26) Mike Boll, The disciples believed they did since they thought to prepare dwellings for both them and Jesus.
Matthew 17:1-8(NIV) reads:
Quote After six days Jesus took with him Peter, James and John the brother of James, and led them up a high mountain by themselves. 2 There he was transfigured before them. His face shone like the sun, and his clothes became as white as the light. 3 Just then there appeared before them Moses and Elijah, talking with Jesus.
4 Peter said to Jesus, “Lord, it is good for us to be here. If you wish, I will put up three shelters—one for you, one for Moses and one for Elijah.”
5 While he was still speaking, a bright cloud covered them, and a voice from the cloud said, “This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!”
6 When the disciples heard this, they fell facedown to the ground, terrified. 7 But Jesus came and touched them. “Get up,” he said. “Don’t be afraid.” 8 When they looked up, they saw no one except Jesus.
That didn't answer my question, Kerwin. Lot also fed an angel. Does that mean the angel had a flesh body too?I guess it could if you're JA and have convinced yourself that angels can “CREATE” flesh bodies as needed. But I don't find anything in scripture about an angel creating a flesh body or being flesh.
So, like I said: Do the scriptures say that Moses and Elijah has FLESH bodies?
mike
Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 22 2010,16:26) the body he takes to make him visible to his disciples his not the original body ,otherwise his disciples would have recognize him and they did not do that ,right ? yes
and it happen more then ones;
Terrarica…..NO.
Jesus appeared to the Disciples in the risen flesh and bone body.
He was RAISED FROM THE DEAD.
He wasnt 'just a spirit or a ghost'.
When he showed his hands and feet he said… “Spirit's don't have hands and feet as you see I have”.
Why can't you just believe ?
“He said to Thomas, “Reach here your finger, and see my hands. Reach here your hand, and put it into my side. Don't be unbelieving, but believing.” Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen, and have believed.”
Mary…
It's only when Jesus said Mary's name that she looked up and knew who he was. She wasn't expecting him to be walking around alive so she assumed the figure talking to her was the gardener. It was early morning so probably still quite dark. When she spoke to him her head would have been down and she was weeping and grieving. He said to her “Woman, why are you crying? Who is it you are looking for?” And when he said her name She turned toward him and cried out “Rabboni!”.
On the boat once again it was early morning and probably still quite dark and they were 100 yards from shore. They recognised him soon enough though.
The two men walking had their eyes deliberatly 'closed' untill after when they had their 'eyes opened'. God can do anything.
So there's no big mystery why they didn't recognise him.
Say theres a mystery to it and you start going into Islamic belief. That is what they say.
Jay and Mike and Irene – if I have it right – believe Jesus was risen from the dead in the flesh. So that's good and scriptural. The only difference of opinion is what Jesus was after…..when he went to heaven.
They could be right. It's not that part I am disagreeing on because I don't know.
shimmer……….They Just do not get it!, i can't believe how something so simple can be so confusing to people. Just put (ALL) the Scriptures together and they will have the answer. Was God (IN) Jesus? Yes he was according to Jesus, NOW is GOD SPIRIT? YES HE IS, according to Jesus, Now was GOD who is Spirit, a Body (IN) the BODY of Jesus, Making two bodies? NO, He was NOT, He was a co-habiting Spirit (IN) Jesus' physical Body. When scripture says try the Spirits to see if they are of GOD are we trying BODIES or Thoughts from a persons (INTELLECT)? , DO thought Have BODIES> NO they do NOT> Did Jesus say after his resurrection a Spirit does not Have FLESH and BONE another words a BODY AS HE DID ? Yes He DID, In all the BODIES MENTIONED IN SCRIPTURE IS THERE (ANY) MENTION OF SPIRIT BODIES no there is not. The term a Spiritual (BODY) means a (PHYSICAL BODY THAT IS SPIRITUALLY MINDED)> Put (ALL) the scriptures together nowhere does it say spirit are invisible (BODIES) going around jumping in and our of people. Spirit is what is (IN) People, not a BODY in a BODY. No wonder you people can't even get to first base in you understanding of GODS Word> The word BODY always imply a PHYSICAL Material Substance made up of MATTER. All resurrections in scripture shows it is done with a VISIBLE BODIES . IMO
peace and love to you and yours Shimmer……………………………….gene
Quote (shimmer @ Dec. 23 2010,17:16) Quote (terraricca @ Dec. 22 2010,16:26) the body he takes to make him visible to his disciples his not the original body ,otherwise his disciples would have recognize him and they did not do that ,right ? yes
and it happen more then ones;
Terrarica…..NO.
Jesus appeared to the Disciples in the risen flesh and bone body.
He was RAISED FROM THE DEAD.
He wasnt 'just a spirit or a ghost'.
When he showed his hands and feet he said… “Spirit's don't have hands and feet as you see I have”.
Why can't you just believe ?
“He said to Thomas, “Reach here your finger, and see my hands. Reach here your hand, and put it into my side. Don't be unbelieving, but believing.” Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen, and have believed.”
Mary…
It's only when Jesus said Mary's name that she looked up and knew who he was. She wasn't expecting him to be walking around alive so she assumed the figure talking to her was the gardener. It was early morning so probably still quite dark. When she spoke to him her head would have been down and she was weeping and grieving. He said to her “Woman, why are you crying? Who is it you are looking for?” And when he said her name She turned toward him and cried out “Rabboni!”.
On the boat once again it was early morning and probably still quite dark and they were 100 yards from shore. They recognised him soon enough though.
The two men walking had their eyes deliberatly 'closed' untill after when they had their 'eyes opened'. God can do anything.
So there's no big mystery why they didn't recognise him.
Say theres a mystery to it and you start going into Islamic belief. That is what they say.
Jay and Mike and Irene – if I have it right – believe Jesus was risen from the dead in the flesh. So that's good and scriptural. The only difference of opinion is what Jesus was after…..when he went to heaven.
They could be right. It's not that part I am disagreeing on because I don't know.
shimmerJn 21:12 Jesus said to them, “Come and have breakfast.” None of the disciples dared ask him, “Who are you?” They knew it was the Lord.
Jn 21:13 Jesus came, took the bread and gave it to them, and did the same with the fish.
Jn 21:14 This was now the third time Jesus appeared to his disciples after he was raised from the deadyour info came from Mark;The most reliable early manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20.
Mk 16:9 When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons.
Mk 16:10 She went and told those who had been with him and who were mourning and weeping.
Mk 16:11 When they heard that Jesus was alive and that she had seen him, they did not believe it.
Mk 16:12 Afterward Jesus appeared in a different form to two of them while they were walking in the country.Mt 28:6 He is not here; he has risen, just as he said. Come and see the place where he lay.
Mt 28:7 Then go quickly and tell his disciples: ‘He has risen from the dead and is going ahead of you into Galilee. There you will see him.’ Now I have told you.”
Mt 28:8 So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples.
Mt 28:9 Suddenly Jesus met them.“Greetings,” he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped himLk 24:4 While they were wondering about this, suddenly two men in clothes that gleamed like lightning stood beside them.
Lk 24:5 In their fright the women bowed down with their faces to the ground, but the men said to them, “Why do you look for the living among the dead?
Lk 24:6 He is not here; he has risen! Remember how he told you, while he was still with you in Galilee:
Lk 24:7 ‘The Son of Man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, be crucified and on the third day be raised again.’ ”
Lk 24:8 Then they remembered his words.
Lk 24:9 When they came back from the tomb, they told all these things to the Eleven and to all the others.
Lk 24:10 It was Mary Magdalene, Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and the others with them who told this to the apostles.so were are your scriptures ,??to justify your NO.
Pierre
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 23 2010,09:27) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 23 2010,01:44) The whole concept of Spirits having bodies is false, Spirits have NO BODIES Spirit is what is (IN) Bodies,
Gene says: Angels DO have bodies.Gene says: Jesus DOES have a body.
Gene says: Spirits DON'T have bodies.
Scripture says: Angels ARE spirits.
Scripture says: Jesus IS a spirit.
Hmmmmm………….looks like our brother Gene is doing it again. He's changing the words of the scriptures so they will fit around HIS BELIEFS. Shame on you, Gene.
mike
MIKE………….Do angels have BODIES , YESDoes Jesus have a BODY, YES
Do SPIRITS have BODIES, NO
Are angels SPIRITS With BODIES , YES
ARE the SPIRITS (IN) the ANGELS CREATED BY GOD, YES
Mike saying, an Angel or Messenger is a Ministering Spirit does not mean they do not have Bodies, Thats is your twist on scriptures. You have not produced ONE scripture that says angels don't Have bodies. Why not try finding that somewhere in scripture to back up your dogmas. Because GOD creates there Spirits doesn't mean they don't have bodies he also creates our Spirits too, but we sure have bodies right? It says when we die our spirits returns to him who gave it , So YOU think our Bodies return back to him who gave it right? Another words to you our Spirits are our Bodies. Mike i can produce hundreds if not thousands of scriptures that show Spirit are what is (IN) Bodies not that they (ARE) Bodies of any kind. All life forms Have Spirit (IN) them or they simply could not exist. Mike you have no idea what you are talking about on this one , you only serve to steer the mud of confusion as you do in other scriptures also. IMO
peace and love…………………………..gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 23 2010,11:30) Mike saying, an Angel or Messenger is a Ministering Spirit does not mean they do not have Bodies,
Gene,You say I don't know what I'm talking about? I DO believe that angels have bodies. But scriptures say that angels are “spirits” Gene.
Do angels have bodies? YES
Are angels spirits? YES
Do spirits have bodies? YES YES YESGene, what do you suppose the “evil SPIRITS” that Jesus and his disciples removed from people were? Do you not believe them to be angels in Satan's service?
These were ANGELS Gene. Bad angels, but angels nonetheless. And they are called SPIRITS over and over in scripture.
mike
Mike……….YOU could not be more wrong even if you tried to be. There are no SATAN ANGLES that is Just part of MYSTERY RELIGION . there is (NO) SATAN (BEING) with a body going around jumping in and out of People . When Jesus called PETER Satan, was he Satan MIKE, Jesus said he was. The word SATAN means (adversary) and anyone can be an adversary at any time of there lives even GOD can be a SATAN or (ADVERSARY) Where confusion comes is when people make Metaphysical existences our of words. LIKE (ADVERSARY) IE, SATAN by trying to Personify it into some kind of Being like Lucifer or SATAN PERSON, Just like you do with trying to make Spirit a Body when Spirit (intellect) is what is (IN) Bodies. If you understood this it would clear up a lot of things in scripture for you Mike. Mike you need to go read what Jodi wrote clearly explaining about Satan , go check it out.
peace and love……………………………………..gene
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