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Yes Kerwin,
“Follow me, and I will make you fishers of men.” (Matt 4:19)
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (kerwin @ May 26 2012,13:22) Quote (terraricca @ May 26 2012,00:56) Quote (kerwin @ May 26 2012,12:29) Quote (terraricca @ May 26 2012,00:12) K it seems you do not understand between the fruits of the spirit and God and his son being spirit beings.
T;I am not currently addressing whether or not Jehovah and his Son are Spirit beings.
Instead I am speaking about how those that live by Spirit are his servants (citizens).
After more examination the kingdom contains both good and bad citizens and since all those that strive to live by the Spirit are good citizens. It is the Word that is the kingdom and those that are born through it that are the citizens.
KQuote It is the Word that is the kingdom and those that are born through it that are the citizens. were is it written that the word is the kingdom
??
T;The Kingdom is like a net that is cast into the sea.
What net is cast into the sea, that is this world, but the Word of God?
KThis is false interpretation ,scriptures does NOT say what you say ,
You like to imagine things to be the way you want it but is not ,
Many scriptures says ;the kingdom is like ;and Christ use many different pictures ,like,Field,treasure ,and others,
You start to look and sound like a Chameleon
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2012,18:50) Hi T,
Mr Negative strikes again.
Everyone else is wrong?
Nif you talking from scriptures please talk ,
if you going to talk about your opinions please keep silent,
truth is only found in scriptures stick with it
Quote (terraricca @ May 26 2012,05:27) Quote (kerwin @ May 26 2012,13:22) Quote (terraricca @ May 26 2012,00:56) Quote (kerwin @ May 26 2012,12:29) Quote (terraricca @ May 26 2012,00:12) K it seems you do not understand between the fruits of the spirit and God and his son being spirit beings.
T;I am not currently addressing whether or not Jehovah and his Son are Spirit beings.
Instead I am speaking about how those that live by Spirit are his servants (citizens).
After more examination the kingdom contains both good and bad citizens and since all those that strive to live by the Spirit are good citizens. It is the Word that is the kingdom and those that are born through it that are the citizens.
KQuote It is the Word that is the kingdom and those that are born through it that are the citizens. were is it written that the word is the kingdom
??
T;The Kingdom is like a net that is cast into the sea.
What net is cast into the sea, that is this world, but the Word of God?
KThis is false interpretation ,scriptures does NOT say what you say ,
You like to imagine things to be the way you want it but is not ,
Many scriptures says ;the kingdom is like ;and Christ use many different pictures ,like,Field,treasure ,and others,
You start to look and sound like a Chameleon
T;It is about correctly interpreting parables and the Word of God is called the gospel of the kingdom.
Quote Matthew 4:23
King James Version (KJV)23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.
The kingdom of God is catching both good and bad men at this time and has been since the time of John; for it is written:
Quote Luke 16:16
King James Version (KJV)16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
K
Quote It is about correctly interpreting parables and the Word of God is called the gospel of the kingdom. so it is called THE GOOD NEWS OF THE KINGDOM ,but what it mean
???AND WERE DOES IT SAYS THAT IT IS ABOUT THE PARABLES ?Quote The kingdom of God is catching both good and bad men at this time and has been since the time of John; for it is written: Luke 16:16
King James Version (KJV)16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
IS THIS VERSE SUPPORTS WHAT YOU EXPRESSED
?? no,WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT IT IS PREACHED TO ALL MEN AND ALL ARE INVITED BUT NOT ALL WILL ACCEPTED
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2012,21:51) Hi,
Jesus Christ has proved men can go to heaven.
The future home of renewed men is another story.
NLk 13:24 “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.
Quote (kerwin @ May 24 2012,09:50) Quote (942767 @ May 24 2012,03:08) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 21 2012,20:53) Hi 94,
What was it that showed the kingdom in power on the mountain?
Hi Nick:I asked the question, if that is what he was talking about? I really don't know at that this point, do you?
He is either referring to the “first death”, or physical death or the “second death” where those who are not saved will be cast into the lake of fire.
It does not seem to make sense that some standing there would not die physically until they see him coming in the clouds with power and great glory. It has been 2000 years and he has not yet come. I don't know any 2000 year old men still living, do you?
And so, I really don't know to what he is referring at this point. I am praying for understanding.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty;Have you considered that he might be speaking of Pentecost; when he comes to reign with power through the Spirit?
Hi Kerwin:Looking at the scriptures in context, I believe that Jesus was speaking of his resurrection from the dead, but it may encompass pentecost as well.
Quote Mat 16:21 ¶ From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Mat 16:22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
Mat 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
Mat 16:24 ¶ Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
Mat 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
Mat 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Mat 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Mat 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
Love in Christ,
MartyQuote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2012,14:31) Hi 94,
Who was alive in the Spirit or would be made alive in the Spirit among the audience?
Hi Nick:What does that have to do with the scripture in question?
Quote Mat 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom He is saying that there would be some standing there who would not die prior to his resurrection from the dead based on verse 16:21:
Quote Mat 16:21 ¶ From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Love in Christ,
MartyHi KW,
If God says Abraham is still alive in the Spirit why would the scripture not encompass those with him who would be too?Quote (942767 @ May 26 2012,23:30) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 24 2012,14:31) Hi 94,
Who was alive in the Spirit or would be made alive in the Spirit among the audience?
Hi Nick:What does that have to do with the scripture in question?
Quote Mat 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom He is saying that there would be some standing there who would not die prior to his resurrection from the dead based on verse 16:21:
Quote Mat 16:21 ¶ From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Love in Christ,
Marty
MartyI do believe you are absolutely right ,
Quote (942767 @ May 26 2012,11:21) Quote (kerwin @ May 24 2012,09:50) Quote (942767 @ May 24 2012,03:08) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 21 2012,20:53) Hi 94,
What was it that showed the kingdom in power on the mountain?
Hi Nick:I asked the question, if that is what he was talking about? I really don't know at that this point, do you?
He is either referring to the “first death”, or physical death or the “second death” where those who are not saved will be cast into the lake of fire.
It does not seem to make sense that some standing there would not die physically until they see him coming in the clouds with power and great glory. It has been 2000 years and he has not yet come. I don't know any 2000 year old men still living, do you?
And so, I really don't know to what he is referring at this point. I am praying for understanding.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty;Have you considered that he might be speaking of Pentecost; when he comes to reign with power through the Spirit?
Hi Kerwin:Looking at the scriptures in context, I believe that Jesus was speaking of his resurrection from the dead, but it may encompass pentecost as well.
Quote Mat 16:21 ¶ From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day. Mat 16:22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
Mat 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
Mat 16:24 ¶ Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
Mat 16:25 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
Mat 16:26 For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Mat 16:27 For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.
Mat 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
Love in Christ,
Marty
Marty;What you state bears consideration.
Quote (kerwin @ May 25 2012,11:27) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2012,06:04)
So what's your final answer, Kerwin? That many witnessed Jesus coming in his Kingdom at Pentecost, because his Kingdom is “the Spirit”?Or that John alone saw Jesus coming in his Kingdom IN A VISION, and that's what Jesus meant in Matthew 16:28?
Mike;Both may well be true as God is well able to mean multiple things with one statement; but they all will be true.
Matthew 24
26 “So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the desert,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it. 27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.The entire inhabited earth will know when Jesus comes in his Kingdom, because they will see him coming on the clouds with angels and great glory. Did that happen at Pentecost?
1 Thessalonians 2:19
For what is our hope, our joy, or the crown in which we will glory in the presence of our Lord Jesus when he comes?1 Thessalonians 3:13
May he strengthen your hearts so that you will be blameless and holy in the presence of our God and Father when our Lord Jesus comes with all his holy ones.1 Thessalonians 4:16
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.These letters were all written after Pentecost. Paul also warned us against believing those who said that the second coming of Christ had already occured. So Pentecost was obviously not the second coming of Jesus.
And Jesus said “SOME of you standing here will not taste death”…………..he did not say “ONE of you”. So that rules out John's revelation as being the only instance where one of them saw Jesus' second coming in a vision.
To me, the ones who did not taste death (as Enoch and Elijah did not taste death) are those who were raised right from a life on earth to a life in heaven, ie: those under the altar in Revelation.
Quote (942767 @ May 25 2012,23:30) He is saying that there would be some standing there who would not die prior to his resurrection from the dead based on verse 16:21
Hi Marty,Read the first lines of my post to Kerwin above this post.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2012,23:11) Hi KW,
Who wants to have to trim their toenails for eternity?
Nick;The Spirit enlivened flesh is not the flesh of this world.
Quote (kerwin @ May 27 2012,11:37) Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 26 2012,23:11) Hi KW,
Who wants to have to trim their toenails for eternity?
Nick;The Spirit enlivened flesh is not the flesh of this world.
yeah ? 
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