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Quote (kerwin @ May 24 2012,17:20) Quote (terraricca @ May 24 2012,05:02) Quote (kerwin @ May 24 2012,16:56) Quote (terraricca @ May 23 2012,06:00) Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2012,17:58) To all; considering the Scriptures I quoted previously; did Jesus come in his kingdom on Pentecost?
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T;This is the passage that started the conversation in this thread.
Matthew 16:28
I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”
Kwell can you read that scripture
Matthew 16:28
I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death
BEFORE they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”
this is Steven, and other apostles and true Christian present with him on that day that he said that;
were do you think is Christ kingdom
T;Jesus rules through the Spirit.
Kthis does not mean anything ,so explain it
Quote (terraricca @ May 24 2012,11:04) Quote (kerwin @ May 24 2012,17:20) terraricca,May wrote:T;
Jesus rules through the Spirit.
Kthis does not mean anything ,so explain it
T;Ephesians 5
King James Version (KJV)8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.and
Galatians 5
King James Version (KJV)22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.and
Romans 6:18
King James Version (KJV)18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Those that walk in the Spirit are ruled by God; and so Jesus.
The mustard seed has been planted.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 24 2012,05:51) Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2012,16:56) Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2012,17:58) To all; did Jesus come in his kingdom on Pentecost?
Hi Kerwin,Revelation 12:10
Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ.According to Revelation 1:1, the vision was of things that “must soon take place”. And John had this revelation long after Pentecost, so I can't see how Jesus came in his kingdom then.
Mike;Jesus came with power in his Kingdom; the Spirit; on Pentecost. His Kingdom; though planted; has not yet grown to the point where the birds of the air perch on its branches. When it does his people will meet him in the air as he descends in New Jerusalem.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 24 2012,05:51) Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2012,16:56) Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2012,17:58) To all; did Jesus come in his kingdom on Pentecost?
Hi Kerwin,Revelation 12:10
Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ.According to Revelation 1:1, the vision was of things that “must soon take place”. And John had this revelation long after Pentecost, so I can't see how Jesus came in his kingdom then.
Mike;That Scripture bears witness that John saw the Second Coming before he tasted death.
Quote (kerwin @ May 24 2012,00:25) Jesus came with power in his Kingdom; the Spirit; on Pentecost.
How do you come up with “his Kingdom” being “the Spirit”?Quote (kerwin @ May 24 2012,00:28) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 24 2012,05:51) Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2012,16:56) Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2012,17:58) To all; did Jesus come in his kingdom on Pentecost?
Hi Kerwin,Revelation 12:10
Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ.According to Revelation 1:1, the vision was of things that “must soon take place”. And John had this revelation long after Pentecost, so I can't see how Jesus came in his kingdom then.
Mike;That Scripture bears witness that John saw the Second Coming before he tasted death.
So what's your final answer, Kerwin? That many witnessed Jesus coming in his Kingdom at Pentecost, because his Kingdom is “the Spirit”?Or that John alone saw Jesus coming in his Kingdom IN A VISION, and that's what Jesus meant in Matthew 16:28?
Quote (kerwin @ May 25 2012,00:17) Quote (terraricca @ May 24 2012,11:04) Quote (kerwin @ May 24 2012,17:20) terraricca,May wrote:T;
Jesus rules through the Spirit.
Kthis does not mean anything ,so explain it
T;Ephesians 5
King James Version (KJV)8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.and
Galatians 5
King James Version (KJV)22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.and
Romans 6:18
King James Version (KJV)18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Those that walk in the Spirit are ruled by God; and so Jesus.
The mustard seed has been planted.
KI hope you never work for me ,because you would try to convice me that you are working ,but IN THE SPIRIT
Quote (kerwin @ May 24 2012,17:25) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 24 2012,05:51) Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2012,16:56) Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2012,17:58) To all; did Jesus come in his kingdom on Pentecost?
Hi Kerwin,Revelation 12:10
Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ.According to Revelation 1:1, the vision was of things that “must soon take place”. And John had this revelation long after Pentecost, so I can't see how Jesus came in his kingdom then.
Mike;Jesus came with power in his Kingdom; the Spirit; on Pentecost. His Kingdom; though planted; has not yet grown to the point where the birds of the air perch on its branches. When it does his people will meet him in the air as he descends in New Jerusalem.
Hi kerwinYour quote: –Jesus– came in his kingdom on pantecost.
This contradicts jesus speaking to the apostles in John16:7.
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away, for if I go not away,the COMFORTER will not come unto you; but if I depart,I WILL SEND -HIM- UNTO YOU.–I– WILL SEND –HIM– UNTO YOU–??
VERSE14. He shall glorify me:—–
wakeup.
Please clarify.
Hi Wakeup, what do you suppose John 14:23 is about?
John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:
and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ May 25 2012,22:28) Hi Wakeup, what do you suppose John 14:23 is about? John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words:
and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed J and Wake up;I agree with you Ed; but as a Math teacher would say, “you did not show your work”.
The scripture that links the Holy Counselor to God and Jesus dwelling in believers is:
Ephesians 2:22
King James Version (KJV)22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2012,06:02) Quote (kerwin @ May 24 2012,00:25) Jesus came with power in his Kingdom; the Spirit; on Pentecost.
How do you come up with “his Kingdom” being “the Spirit”?
Mike;It is written:
1 Corinthians 7:22
King James Version (KJV)22 For he that is called in the Lord, being a servant, is the Lord's freeman: likewise also he that is called, being free, is Christ's servant.
Is a good citizen a servant of his country; and the ruler thereof? I am convinced they are.
At this time, even a bad servant that is a citizen of the Word, which is the kingdom; as it is written:
Matthew 13:47
King James Version (KJV)47 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net, that was cast into the sea, and gathered of every kind:
Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 25 2012,06:04) Quote (kerwin @ May 24 2012,00:28) Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 24 2012,05:51) Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2012,16:56) Quote (kerwin @ May 23 2012,17:58) To all; did Jesus come in his kingdom on Pentecost?
Hi Kerwin,Revelation 12:10
Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come the salvation and the power and the kingdom of our God, and the authority of his Christ.According to Revelation 1:1, the vision was of things that “must soon take place”. And John had this revelation long after Pentecost, so I can't see how Jesus came in his kingdom then.
Mike;That Scripture bears witness that John saw the Second Coming before he tasted death.
So what's your final answer, Kerwin? That many witnessed Jesus coming in his Kingdom at Pentecost, because his Kingdom is “the Spirit”?Or that John alone saw Jesus coming in his Kingdom IN A VISION, and that's what Jesus meant in Matthew 16:28?
Mike;Both may well be true as God is well able to mean multiple things with one statement; but they all will be true.
Quote (terraricca @ May 25 2012,09:11) Quote (kerwin @ May 25 2012,00:17) Quote (terraricca @ May 24 2012,11:04) Quote (kerwin @ May 24 2012,17:20) terraricca,May wrote:T;
Jesus rules through the Spirit.
Kthis does not mean anything ,so explain it
T;Ephesians 5
King James Version (KJV)8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.and
Galatians 5
King James Version (KJV)22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.and
Romans 6:18
King James Version (KJV)18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Those that walk in the Spirit are ruled by God; and so Jesus.
The mustard seed has been planted.
KI hope you never work for me ,because you would try to convice me that you are working ,but IN THE SPIRIT
T;Those that work in the Spirit bear the fruit of the Spirit. What does God state the fruit of the Spirit is?
Quote (kerwin @ May 26 2012,11:30) Quote (terraricca @ May 25 2012,09:11) Quote (kerwin @ May 25 2012,00:17) Quote (terraricca @ May 24 2012,11:04) Quote (kerwin @ May 24 2012,17:20) terraricca,May wrote:T;
Jesus rules through the Spirit.
Kthis does not mean anything ,so explain it
T;Ephesians 5
King James Version (KJV)8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.and
Galatians 5
King James Version (KJV)22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.and
Romans 6:18
King James Version (KJV)18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.
Those that walk in the Spirit are ruled by God; and so Jesus.
The mustard seed has been planted.
KI hope you never work for me ,because you would try to convice me that you are working ,but IN THE SPIRIT
T;Those that work in the Spirit bear the fruit of the Spirit. What does God state the fruit of the Spirit is?
Kyour are not answering ;but circling to no were
K
it seems you do not understand between the fruits of the spirit and God and his son being spirit beings,
Quote (terraricca @ May 26 2012,00:12) K it seems you do not understand between the fruits of the spirit and God and his son being spirit beings.
T;I am not currently addressing whether or not Jehovah and his Son are Spirit beings.
Instead I am speaking about how those that live by Spirit are his servants (citizens).
After more examination the kingdom contains both good and bad citizens and since all those that strive to live by the Spirit are good citizens. It is the Word that is the kingdom and those that are born through it that are the citizens.
Quote (kerwin @ May 26 2012,12:29) Quote (terraricca @ May 26 2012,00:12) K it seems you do not understand between the fruits of the spirit and God and his son being spirit beings.
T;I am not currently addressing whether or not Jehovah and his Son are Spirit beings.
Instead I am speaking about how those that live by Spirit are his servants (citizens).
After more examination the kingdom contains both good and bad citizens and since all those that strive to live by the Spirit are good citizens. It is the Word that is the kingdom and those that are born through it that are the citizens.
KQuote It is the Word that is the kingdom and those that are born through it that are the citizens. were is it written that the word is the kingdom
??Quote (terraricca @ May 26 2012,00:56) Quote (kerwin @ May 26 2012,12:29) Quote (terraricca @ May 26 2012,00:12) K it seems you do not understand between the fruits of the spirit and God and his son being spirit beings.
T;I am not currently addressing whether or not Jehovah and his Son are Spirit beings.
Instead I am speaking about how those that live by Spirit are his servants (citizens).
After more examination the kingdom contains both good and bad citizens and since all those that strive to live by the Spirit are good citizens. It is the Word that is the kingdom and those that are born through it that are the citizens.
KQuote It is the Word that is the kingdom and those that are born through it that are the citizens. were is it written that the word is the kingdom
??
T;The Kingdom is like a net that is cast into the sea.
What net is cast into the sea, that is this world, but the Word of God?
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